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[pacdiggity]

I wonder if the movie could've been saved if the people around Lucas had just said "No, that's stupid" instead of just following him blindly.

probably yeah

I REALLY need to read the got dang books.

haha
but yeah they blow the show right out of the water with the intricacies and thematic material. there is SO much that can and should be read in to. there are so many mysteries and loose threads that it's like diving down the rabbit hole.

i really wanna talk about who jon snow's mother is (or, you know, who i think it is and why) but doing so without permission is generally considered taboo.

[Jules]

I wonder if the movie could've been saved if the people around Lucas had just said "No, that's stupid" instead of just following him blindly.

probably yeah

I REALLY need to read the got dang books.

haha
but yeah they blow the show right out of the water with the intricacies and thematic material. there is SO much that can and should be read in to. there are so many mysteries and loose threads that it's like diving down the rabbit hole.

i really wanna talk about who jon snow's mother is (or, you know, who i think it is and why) but doing so without permission is generally considered taboo.

R+L? =o

I finished A Dance With Dragons about two months after it came out ( I had actually read all five books in succession within those two months lol)  Three more years and I'll get to read the next one! /sarcasm

[pacdiggity]

i really wanna talk about who jon snow's mother is (or, you know, who i think it is and why) but doing so without permission is generally considered taboo.

R+L? =o

as compelling as that theory is, it has certain holes that point to a different direction. i'll put a cheeky little clue in this here spoiler, see what you can figure from that. i just don't want to spoil things D:
[spoiler]Firstly, consider that in Eddard IX, AGoT, Ned mentions that he hadn't thought about Rhaegar in years. Years. That would be impossible if he'd been raising his son, plain and simple. So, if Jon isn't Rhaegar's, whose is he? Well, here's a really cool literary connection between Jon Snow and a certain Dornish house.

In Eddard X, AGoT, Ned has his famous fever dream about the Tower of Joy, when he tried to protect and save his sister Lyanna. He recalls a battle outside the tower where he and six of his friends (7 people) fight against 3 knights of the kingsguard - Ser Oswell Whent, Ser Gerold Hightower, and Ser Arthur Dayne.
In Jon IV, AGoT, there is another fight where a precious person is being fought over - Alliser Thorne pits 7 recruits against Jon Snow, Grenn and Pyp, and they have to protect Samwell Tarly. There are some crazy ridiculous connections between these two fights - particularly between the kingsguard knights and Jon's team.

Ser Oswell is of House Whent of Harrenhal - Harrenhal and House Whent are frequently associated with bats throughout the series; the sigil of House Whent is nine bats on a yellow field. So we have Ser Oswell, who is associated with bats.
The Lord-Commander of the Kingsguard was Ser Gerold Hightower. The Hightowers are shrouded in mystery, and they practice sorcery and dark arts. What happens in Oldtown stays in Oldtown. What's important is that Ser Gerold's nickname was "the White Bull." So we have Ser Gerold, who is associated with bulls.
Ser Arthur Dayne was the Sword of the Morning, a title always held by a great knight of House Dayne, along with their Valyrian greatsword Dawn. What's interesting here is that Arthur's sister, Ashara, seemed to have an affection for Brandon Stark (Ned's brother). So we have Ser Arthur, who was Sword of the Morning.

In Jon's fight at Castle Black, on his team are Pyp and Grenn. In the same chapter, shortly after the fight, Pyp is described as having the ears of a bat. So we have Pyp, who is associated with bats.
Grenn's nickname, as given by Alliser Thorne, was Aurochs. An Auroch is a specific type of oxen, or bull. So we have Grenn, who is associated with bulls.

If we have Ser Oswell Whent and Pyp being associated with bats, and Ser Gerold Hightower and Grenn being associated with bulls, that screams that there is a connection between Ser Arthur Dayne and Jon Snow.
[spoiler]Is Jon Snow the next Sword of the Morning, the heir to House Dayne? Are there two fire and ice couples? Rhaegar + Lyanna, Brandon + Ashara.
[spoiler]Well, if Jon is the child of Brandon Stark and Ashara Dayne, that begs the question: whose child is Rhaegar and Lyanna's? Well, it turns out we know exceedingly little about the childhood of...
[spoiler]Daenerys Targaryen. Take in to account that when Ned thinks about the promise he made to Lyanna, he feels as though he failed in keeping it. If the promise were to protect Jon, then he hadn't failed at all; Jon was safe at the Wall. If the promise were to protect Daenerys though, then he absolutely failed: just before he thought this, Robert and the small council agreed to assassinate Daenerys. Therefore, Lyanna's promise being about Daenerys makes much more sense.[/spoiler]
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ASoIaF is my favourite piece of fiction ever and I like to think I know a great deal about it. If anyone else in interested in discussing it, be it fanboying out or crackpot theories, please hit me up.

[Jules]

Interesting!  I am not totally sold on R+L either. I do think it's an interesting proposition.  I really need to go back and read them all again. It's been a few years now, and I've watched the show in the interim. Sometimes my brain gets the two muddled.

[pacdiggity]

Sometimes my brain gets the two muddled.

oh tell me about it. there are times when i'm talking to a friend who has only watched the show, and i throw in a comment about young griff, or lady stoneheart, or coldhands, and i just get blank stares. it's a nightmare.

[Jules]

Oh I tell everyone I know who watches the show that they MUST read the books. There is SO MUCH MORE in the books.  I prefer the books. But I do like how the show is developing its own characters and plot lines that aren't in the books. So you can enjoy both

[haloOfTheSun]

yeah
also the originals are far better then the prequel movies

you was trolled and got mad and probably punched a dog, because i am the trolling master of ruse town

pacman punched my dog and now she's dead rip

if u don't believe me see my first posts in this thread

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take pictures like I do with my cat

[yuyu!]

Using this thread to say hi and sorry for being out so much

Final projects were brutal, then I caught some kind of short-lived flu and was bedridden for the two days after completing them.





oh and I have a smartphone now

[yuyu!]

also are we talking about cats now?

[haloOfTheSun]

No now we're talking about how we couldn't do RMRK Awards this year because you have a life

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there are only 4 people on RMRK how can there be 10 posts?

[yuyu!]

we should do rmrk awards anyways >: (

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ok have fun setting them up

[spoiler]you're probably the only person who know's what's up with those[/spoiler]

[pacdiggity]

do i win best post

[Acolyte]

It's kinda disturbing to watch david tennant play a villain, but he's so good at it.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnWvp6xyT5U[/yt]

[yuyu!]

really lazy and rushed, but we have awards! *_*

http://rmrk.net/index.php?board=305.0

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yay ( 'w')/