Official Super Smash Bros Brawl Thread (GAME RELEASED)

[chewey]

Tiers are created by the developers by improperly designing the characters.

lmfao hell no.
The developpers are creating the characters. it ends there. they're not publishing a list of who is good, who is bad, who is the counter of who etc etc.

it's from smashboards to beggin with. there's votes and other stuff. tiers list has been created AND changed +5 time because of many factors, included jump grab,wavedash, pro using them and more. tiers are mostly results of pro tournaments.

It's not opinion

What is it then? unless you know sakurai in person, how can you tell they're trying to remove tiers, when, to begin with, they have nothing to do with that, there's no smash DOJO updates where it says anything about it, and you haven't play it either?

The developers are trying to make a well rounded roster. They don't want some characters to be shit and others to be overpowered. They are trying to remove tiers. This has nothing to do with smashboards.

Seriously, Leon is in brawl. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0928380/

This is old.

And it is imdb. This is not a reliable source to go by.

[haloOfTheSun]

I hate IMDB. Such a horrible source of information.

[onegoal...heaven]

Tiers are created by the developers by improperly designing the characters.

lmfao hell no.
The developpers are creating the characters. it ends there. they're not publishing a list of who is good, who is bad, who is the counter of who etc etc.

it's from smashboards to beggin with. there's votes and other stuff. tiers list has been created AND changed +5 time because of many factors, included jump grab,wavedash, pro using them and more. tiers are mostly results of pro tournaments.

It's not opinion

What is it then? unless you know sakurai in person, how can you tell they're trying to remove tiers, when, to begin with, they have nothing to do with that, there's no smash DOJO updates where it says anything about it, and you haven't play it either?

The developers are trying to make a well rounded roster. They don't want some characters to be shit and others to be overpowered. They are trying to remove tiers. This has nothing to do with smashboards.

Seriously, Leon is in brawl. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0928380/

This is old.

And it is imdb. This is not a reliable source to go by.

I hate to come in at the wrong time, but tier lists are always there. No matter how hard you try, no matter what you do, there is always giong to be someone better than the other. Sakurai and his team ain't perfect so it's bound for the smash community to find glitches and stuff that'll make the game unbalanced. Also, too much of a balanced game can be a bad thing too because it makes the game dull. There has to be a balance between balance and unbalance XD. ALSO, Sakurai wants to appeal to the public. He wants the Competetive gamers have what they want and at the same time, make the game fun for Casual players XD.

[HolyQuebec]

lmfao.
I guess we all know what we're talking about Chewy, Unless you just don't get the point.
tiers is not the character beeing balanced btw, if that's what you're thinking. the way I see it, that's what you think.

[onegoal...heaven]

not to be rude or anything...but that's pretty much an epic win. GG XD

[HolyQuebec]

not to be rude or anything...but that's pretty much an epic win. GG XD

Why, thank you?
I hope you see this post LOLL I GOT U YOU BITCH!

[onegoal...heaven]

GG LOL RAPIST XD! Haahahah now I'm scared...dunno what pics of my chats u got.

[haloOfTheSun]

Wow, I never thought you two could get even more annoying.

EDIT: Nope, better idea.

[chewey]

Okay I'll say it one last time.

Tier lists can only be created if the characters are unbalanced. If they are all balanced equally in power then there can't be tiers. I am not saying anything about Sakurai and his team actually creating the tier list so I have no idea why you're bringing that up.

[HolyQuebec]

even if they are PERFECTLY balanced, they won't combo the same,wont have the same quickness etc. they can't be perfectly balanced anyway so forget it.
Say whatever you want, whoever knows what Smash Bros REALLY is, knows that there's gonna be tiers.

I am not saying anything about Sakurai and his team actually creating the tier list so I have no idea why you're bringing that up.

You Brought that up at least 5 time and this is why we've been arguing the whole time.

[chewey]

I am not saying anything about Sakurai and his team actually creating the tier list so I have no idea why you're bringing that up.

You Brought that up at least 5 time and this is why we've been arguing the whole time.
[/quote]No. You thought I brought it up.

[HolyQuebec]

Lol whatever.

[Yossy]

Um, Halo, is there a reason why you can't delete like forty pages from this thread?

'Cause I can't think of one.

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Is onegoal...heaven, damino?

[Link]

Prolly, or Qubek trying to win the argument, but what chewy is saying is true, yeah they not identical, but each has a diff start for them, hence why it's balenced =/

Street fighter = good and bad characters
Halo = good and bad weapons
racing games = good and bad cars

And what? er have you even played another game apart from SS? 

Give me an example of,

1,Bad charecter in Street fighter
2,Bad wepon in halo

[Forty]

In Halo, weapons have strengths and weaknesses
For example, I can't use the spartan laser at all, but my friend.

On ssbb, y did they pick captain olimar?
Y not megaman or some guy from castlevanina?

[HolyQuebec]

Prolly, or Qubek trying to win the argument, but what chewy is saying is true, yeah they not identical, but each has a diff start for them, hence why it's balenced =/

Street fighter = good and bad characters
Halo = good and bad weapons
racing games = good and bad cars

And what? er have you even played another game apart from SS? 

Give me an example of,

1,Bad charecter in Street fighter
2,Bad wepon in halo

smash noobs ftw.

i didn't play halo, so i'll name out another shooter. the good old classic Goldeneye with that crappy klobb. or perfect dark with that crappy magsec(or something like this). E-Honda is ''crappy'' too,in SF2. unless you're planning to spam punch cornering someone, but even so, -NO PROS- are using E-honda.

again, there will be tiers no matter what. i'll even post the list for you in 2-3 months(or after the first official tournament) there's gonna be one. even if *they* make all the characters ''balanced'', some characters will be easier to play, some will be harder to play, some will be heavyweight, some lightweight and they won't combo the same either. just one of theese differences will make tiers appear.

[HolyQuebec]

In Halo, weapons have strengths and weaknesses
For example, I can't use the spartan laser at all, but my friend.

On ssbb, y did they pick captain olimar?
Y not megaman or some guy from castlevanina?

sorry for the double post.

I don't like Megaman to be honnest, but still, I wish he's in there. HE DESERVES TO BE!!

[Link]

haha you forgot street fighter, also the klobb was an awesome weapon, each one had different stats, non are bad =/


Why do you think each game has crap players, those ones are the ones YOU suck at, they dont suck,  after all a bad workman blames his tools.

[HolyQuebec]

haha you forgot street fighter, also the klobb was an awesome weapon, each one had different stats, non are bad =/


Why do you think each game has crap players, those ones are the ones YOU suck at, they dont suck,  after all a bad workman blames his tools.

E-Honda is ''crappy'' too,in SF2. unless you're planning to spam punch cornering someone, but even so, -NO PROS- are using E-honda.

I didn't know i forgot about street fighter.
go on smashboards.com and say there's not gonna be tiers in brawl. people are gonna laugh at you.

tiers isnt the same as ''the player's skillz for a character'' or whatever how you see it.
there's characters better than the others thats all.

LOL at the klobb beeing an awesome weapon, seriously. it doesn't even shoot straight, weak damage, and little ammo.

in my signature you shall go.

[Link]

Well 1, im sorry but in fighting games their all good, it just depends how you use them, and ok, i can go in your siggy,i dont really mind i stand by what i put, it is a good weapon, all you have to do is use the cross hair, it rips them apart.

No character is crap, they all have something good about them, if you think that then you must just not play enough fighting games, as ssb dosnt really count.

[HolyQuebec]

cross hair? are we talking about the same goldeneye? 007? on 64?

[Link]

er yeah, it's called the L trigger....press it you get a red cross hair on the screen.


Also can a mod move the last 2-3 pages into a new topic please, this has gone waaaaay off topic.

[Irock]

Tournyfags debating over a game that isn't out yet ftw.

Anyway, mind if we get on topic?

This is very original to the smash series. A move that requires you to leave the stage and launch something from an almost first person perspective? That's pretty interesting.

[Link]

>_> but i was debating about goldeneye ._.