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Slightly Sped Up

Started by CartoonFan, December 01, 2010, 03:51:40 AM

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CartoonFan

Lately I've noticed TV and DVD rips occasionally seem to be sped up a tiny bit. Like this one time I got a rip of Crank, and I noticed a very small difference in the speed in which Chelios did things. (Because I've seen the movie so many times I could pick up on that.) When I watched it with my DVD player at the same time, the ripped version gradually got further ahead until it was more than two minutes ahead.

The same thing happened with Scott Pilgrim recently.

How um... is there a way to know how much of my media has this problem? I'd like to make sure none of my anime is like this.

Arrow

Perhaps it's not the files being played, but the program playing them? I'm much more willing to believe it's the program interpreting the file that is the source of issue.

CartoonFan

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Lately I've been using Media Player Classic. I suppose I could try it on VLC.

Here's the thing though. When tested along side-by-side with a DVD, the video was a certain amount of seconds ahead at the same time stamp as the DVD, and then it got increasingly further at the same time stamps. It just seems to me that if it was the player, then moving to individual timestamps would re-center the video where it was supposed to be at those stamps.

EDIT: Just tested it in VLC. Same result.

Also, the Crank one was on my iPod. I really wish it was the player at fault, but unfortunately it looks like it's the video file.

Arrow

Personally I don't really see this as being a problem, though. You're measuring seconds here- the only way to be absolutely sure was to compare both side by side. It would seem to me then that the enjoyability of the product is intact regardless.

CartoonFan

Yeah, but I have to have my media exactly how the creators put it out. I believe in leaving art in its intended state. Bleeping curse words from comedy specials is one thing, but I never watch a full-length movie on TV because they've removed parts of it. If I'm seeing a film or anime, especially for the first time, it has to be exactly how it's supposed to be. It can't be sped up, slowed down, or altered in the slightest. Other than dubs and redone openings/closings of course. I don't know if ya could call it OCD or what, but that's just the way I am.

Looks like there really isn't a way to find these things out except by side-by-side testing. So it looks like that's what I'll have to do. Thanks for tryin' anyway. At least I can rule out one cause.

Jonesy

Quote from: Animefan on December 01, 2010, 09:53:47 AM
Other than dubs and redone openings/closings of course.

That's pretty selective. I don't want any changes made to it, oh, except they can change the language if they want.

You make a good point about viewing art in it's intended state, etc, but a little bit out of sync is no problem, provided the audio and video match up, it won't even be noticeable.

It's all relative anyway, if the director choose to have one part slower than the rest, it'll still be just as much slower than the rest if it's all sped up anyway.
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Roph

Why do you care if it's a tiny bit faster? And all the audio is still synced?

You probably have a PAL release, whereas American DVDs use NTSC. Movies are recorded at 24 frames per second. For NTSC display (30FPS, 60 interlaced frames) they do all kinds of weird stuff. For PAL display, they just speed up the video and corresponding audio from 24 to 25 FPS.

I prefer to watch all my shows and movies a little faster. Newer versions of VLC perform time stretching, so it's easy. Play a video in VLC and press the ] key a few times.
[fright]bringing sexy back[/fright]

kaboth

I agree I use VLC alot for most thing's now I used to use Nero Showtime alot for DVD playback...
kaboth (a.k.a. Ic3ByTE)


Holkeye

Quote from: Roph on December 01, 2010, 10:42:19 AM

I prefer to watch all my shows and movies a little faster. Newer versions of VLC perform time stretching, so it's easy. Play a video in VLC and press the ] key a few times.

Its weird to me that you like that. I've accidentally bumped that key before, and it was really annoying.

Roph

I watch TV shows usually at around 1.3 - 1.4x. I speed-watched all 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 at around 1.7x speed, [hearty laughter]. You can still follow the dialogue fine.

It's so creepy to then watch it back at 1.0x speed after getting used to faster speed, they talk so slow. It also makes the low 24fps that movies use (1.20x usually) remarkably obvious.
[fright]bringing sexy back[/fright]

Sashikinaroji

Quote from: Roph on December 01, 2010, 04:25:19 PM
I watch TV shows usually at around 1.3 - 1.4x. I speed-watched all 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 at around 1.7x speed, [hearty laughter]. You can still follow the dialogue fine.

It's so creepy to then watch it back at 1.0x speed after getting used to faster speed, they talk so slow. It also makes the low 24fps that movies use (1.20x usually) remarkably obvious.

Roph, I Fucking love you! I never thought of doing that, and that would be brilliant for watching my Dr. Who or, more likely, Scrubs... YAY! Anyways...

Yeah, this is the first time I had ever thought of stuff like that...

If all else fails, use a video editing program and stretch the video lengths to match!
Ok, DON'T EXPECT HELP FROM ME~! I will perhaps rant a bit, but don't expect me to do graphics for you, even if I say I will... I won't.

ahref

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Quote from: Roph on December 01, 2010, 04:25:19 PM
I watch TV shows usually at around 1.3 - 1.4x. I speed-watched all 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 at around 1.7x speed, [hearty laughter]. You can still follow the dialogue fine.

It's so creepy to then watch it back at 1.0x speed after getting used to faster speed, they talk so slow. It also makes the low 24fps that movies use (1.20x usually) remarkably obvious.

THIS, the world moves too slow at 1.0x.

INB4 animefan starts seeing subliminals that arnt there

Holkeye

Man, you kids these days have no patience. Even with the post mtv smash cuts, its still not fast enough for you.