Obama

[Ofdensen]

Biden will be our next president...

[Arrow]

If you didn't want me to report your post, you shouldn't have called me an idiot simply for responding to something a few idiots from somewhere else said to me.

It wasn't because of that, I think. It's probably just because you are, in fact, an idiot.

Go watch sicko as for the healthcare thing. I think the american healthcare system is ridiculous. Here in the UK it's "socialised" healthcare. Of course, no system as vast as one that serves an entire country would be free from problems, and the NHS (national health service) isn't without its fair share, but overall it works pretty good.

If I become severely ill or injure myself, there's no worrying about money or anything like that. The main concern is how can they help me, and will I be safe. All I would need to get care is just to let them know who I am.

I stayed up late and watched him win live on TV, I was happy he won. I'm definitely for pro-choice and gay equality even though neither affect me. The same for getting religion the heck out of the state

As for the benefit thing, aren't there checks in place? You can't just live off unemployment pay here. To get it, you have to prove you're unemployed and that you are currently trying to get employment again. To keep getting the money you have to prove that you are continually making reasonable attempts to get work. If you're not, you're removed from the roll and don't get a penny.

I approve/agree with/whatever everything you just said. My only complaint about the health system is that, while it might work there, you ahve different people to choose from over here, and in my experience with government run services I really doubt I should trust my health to a government plan. You should have seen the retardation I had to go through to get my driver's permit.

[haloOfTheSun]

If you didn't want me to report your post, you shouldn't have called me an idiot simply for responding to something a few idiots from somewhere else said to me.

Bingo. I just get tired of posting something and then taking 4 more posts to explain it to Animefan, so I just let it go.

[CartoonFan]

Go watch sicko as for the healthcare thing.

So you've seen "Sicko" as well, eh Roph?

Hasn't anybody else watched "Sicko"?

You really are just a gullible little dumbass weeaboo.

Yeah, that's right Halo. You didn't think I'd remember, did ya? :p
EDIT: You know what? No beating around the bush. What I was trying to prove by bringing that back up, is that perhaps you jumped the gun too quickly on the film "Sicko", since Roph the master himself mentions it.

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Also:
@ Dr., while the health care system is usually fine, there could come a day when your insurance company decides to deny you coverage when you most need it, do to some "pre-existing condition" jargon. They're always looking for ways to avoid paying money, and medical bills are way too large to be paid without insurance.

I'm insured as well. (Unfortunately, my father isn't.) I doubt they'll pull that kind of crap on me if I ever need surgery or the like, but I always keep my mind open to the possibility that even when insured, I could still end up screwed.

Which is another reason I support Obama. There's no guarantees, but with a little luck, he might just abolish the current insurance companies. If he can't, he did mention something about "eliminating the 'pre-existing condition' restrictions". If he at least did that, anybody could get insured, and it'd be pretty hard to refuse to cover a medical bill without the "pre-existing condition" card to play.

In other words, if we are to keep the current insurance system, it needs some serious reformation and  restrictions.

[haloOfTheSun]

Hasn't anybody else watched "Sicko"?

You really are just a gullible little dumbass weeaboo.

Yeah, that's right Halo. You didn't think I'd remember, did ya? :p
EDIT: You know what? No beating around the bush. What I was trying to prove by bringing that back up, is that perhaps you jumped the gun too quickly on the film "Sicko", since Roph the master himself mentions it.

Or maybe you've misunderstood someone, yet again, since my post was referring to how you were using the film as a reference in that older post of yours. Yeah, this late at night I'm not going to try and make that sentence make much more sense.

Roph also is intelligent enough to separate fact from bullshit Michael Moore fiction, which, like his previous films, has plenty of both.

I'm not going to take another 5 posts explaining to you why you're wrong, only to have to explain those 5 posts to you with another 4, so just accept it and move on.

[Kathryn]

NO THAT'S NOT TRUE MICHEAL MOORE FILMS DON'T LIE YOU LIAR

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

[Kyriel]

M. Moore makes it quite clear in Sicko that a system of "socialized" medicine won't work in the U.S.; there are far too many doctors in the system that like being able to charge whatever they wish that would fight it tooth and nail - not to mention the U.S. government has a nasty track record when it comes to bureaucratic control of anything.

IMHO, the best solution to this would be to abolish the Health Maintenance Organizations created by Nixon, and extend the option of Medicare to everyone. Naturally, this means somewhat higher taxation in some area, but OTOH there is nothing the government can do, without earning the wrath of SOME mistreated minority.

[Kathryn]

Actually Canada has this huge doctor crisis because everyone runs down to the USA after they finish their medical training.

Because the pay's better.

not that the doctor pay here in canada isn't good, at this point they'll give any doctor anything you want as long as they stay.

[ShadowOD]

America is better off with Obama, enough said =]

He ain't war driven! Thats the first! =]

But he ain't afraid to use those nukes! I dunno if thats true, just heard about it (Prob bullshit)

He also wants to go green, which is pretty awesome 

He ain't no snobby shit either. Being born in a poor family and working his way to the top has my respect.

[haloOfTheSun]

Going green is dumb. Complete bullshit.

[ShadowOD]

Maybe thats true, rather the earth survive a little longer!

Besides, we need to find better use of power anyways.

[Algid]

Personally I think it's gonna be great with him. With a non-natural-born socialist President, "reaching across partylines" in a government completely dominated by one party, most of whom would like us to be Canada (I've got nothing against the Scandinavian brand of socialism), and talk of extending term limits, I'm sure will get out of our innumerable crises pretty fast, I mean an empire worked for Germany in the 1930's right?
The real beauty of it though is that it'll move us into the next step of human politics where a dictator rises to power in an inefficient democracy, cause shit can't get done, and tightens the grip on the ignorant herd that are the average citizens. After that it shouldn't be too long before people they aren't livestock and will destroy the empire and thrusting the country into anarchy cause the fucking herd has no one to wipe their asses. Then another dictator will rise as a father figure, only to be toppled by a rebellion leading to the rise of the democracy we have today, and maybe then people will realize that a government isn't supposed to respect the individual, but rather process numbers and keep the data safe as the machine that it is!

Yeah...I'm a little vocal and a little twisted, so sue me..

[tSwitch]

Personally I think it's gonna be great with him. With a non-natural-born socialist President, "reaching across partylines" in a government completely dominated by one party, most of whom would like us to be Canada (I've got nothing against the Scandinavian brand of socialism), and talk of extending term limits, I'm sure will get out of our innumerable crises pretty fast, I mean an empire worked for Germany in the 1930's right?
The real beauty of it though is that it'll move us into the next step of human politics where a dictator rises to power in an inefficient democracy, cause shit can't get done, and tightens the grip on the ignorant herd that are the average citizens. After that it shouldn't be too long before people they aren't livestock and will destroy the empire and thrusting the country into anarchy cause the fucking herd has no one to wipe their asses. Then another dictator will rise as a father figure, only to be toppled by a rebellion leading to the rise of the democracy we have today, and maybe then people will realize that a government isn't supposed to respect the individual, but rather process numbers and keep the data safe as the machine that it is!

Yeah...I'm a little vocal and a little twisted, so sue me..

where the hell did you come from and what the hell are you talking about?
are you a republican or something?

[Holkeye]

It's Obama.

[Algid]

I've been on this site for about a year, I mean that the fact that if the liberal spectrum democrats are successful in creating a one party state, it'll work out nicely.
No, I'm a conservative liberalist Liberatarian with fascist tendencies. Figure it out yourself I don't fucking know. I'm speaking on behalf of my own platform, so none of your anti republican shit applies.

[Irock]

Irock is a conservative. ^o^

But people get when I talk about politics.

[Algid]

Well I'd like to say that I'd be friendly with you, but I'm not entirely conservative, and I read your IRC rant, and I don't feel like associating myself with you...sorry...

[Irock]

your IRC rant

?_?

[Algid]

An unfair ban, something about raping chickens and killing children? Doesn't ring a bell?

[Irock]

An unfair ban, something about raping chickens and killing children? Doesn't ring a bell?

I was joking around with most of that, when it happened, but I don't care what you think of me, because I know I'm .

[Algid]

Oh, ok, I thought you were serious. That changes what I think then. My bad.?