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Tour (with pictures) of the creationist museum.

Started by Roph, June 08, 2007, 03:28:50 PM

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Roph

http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ars-takes-a-field-trip-the-creation-museum.ars

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drjonboyg/sets/72157600301874014/

As we can see from the exhibits, apparently anything can be twisted enough to justify a religious rather than scientific or logical reason for something.

The really depressing part is now we'll have another generation of kids having their minds polluted by nonsense of dinosaurs living with man and the Earth being only a few thousand years old. I guess being oblivious to reality is the easiest way of getting through life.

[edit] I read the article again. I love that third picture on the first page that states "Present changes are too small and too slow to explain these differences, suggesting God provided organisms with special tools to change rapidly."

YES! Because nothing that we're directly looking at in the past few hundred years or so isn't showing massive steps in evolution, that's surely undeniable evidence that that it couldn't have ever possibly happened in the past 4.5 Billion years? :/

[spoiler]Sad, but it seems like I need this spoiler to point out this is my own view, you think what you want.[/spoiler]



[spoiler]Here's a comment from digg, lol

QuoteThe more I think we seriously need to consider "weeding out the population" of all the dumb shits too stupid to accept fact over a bunch of thousands of years dead men trying to make sense of our world.

I know it sounds harsh, but I am really tired or religious people. They have caused more pain and suffering in this world under the idea of uniting it than any scientific advancement has, including nuclear bombs.

[/spoiler]

While I agree on principle that we should weed out the "dumb shits", not all religious people can be blanketed under this category, nor athiests excluded.

A religous person who keeps their beliefs fairly quiet, perhaps will share them but not zealously, is fine by me. I can even lend them an ear to hear their beliefs and theories, and can say at the end of the day it was interesting.

Religious people can be zealous idiots just as much as athiests can, who protests outside churches and try to convert believers to their firm, scientific, disbelief. In the scientific community, let facts speak for themselves. In religious communities, let freedom of thought reign.
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gonorrhea

QuoteWhile I agree on principle that we should weed out the "dumb shits"
Define 'dumb shit', and how do you think we should weed them out?

Also haha @ museum. The truly sad part is that people were willing to part with all the money for this museum, and that people get excited about it and visit it and believe all that bullshit. I don't waste my time getting angry about this like some of you others, don't see a need to. These Christians are weak, you can tell in their actions and dialogues. The next generation, although today highly impressionable, will soon see this as well (or at least, a good deal of them).
Quote from: ElegyIt's fucking sad that you and the cat can't stick to the subject and even attempt to defend your little bullshit religion without jumping to personal attacks, maybe thats because evolution is such a stupid idea it's hard to back it up with any claims pertaining to reality.

Forty

Lable them with a sign and I'll do it (I would have to come last if I were on the list though...)

mangadude5760

I'm semi-religious.  I pray and talk to God and all that.  Hehe lol I'm Christain but I don't push beliefs on other people.  I also believe in creation and evolution and the Big bang and all that.  I think they have common ground.  People always keep them separate but I think they should go along with each other. That museum seems interesting but I never go to museums much...prolly only been to like five or six.  One major one I think. lol   Like you said this could be a problem for the next generation.  Who knows?  But it's likely.  Oh God what is the world coming to?
Go suck a lemon! lol

 

Esmeralda

Quote from: mangadude5760 on June 25, 2007, 08:09:33 PM
I'm semi-religious.  I pray and talk to God and all that.  Hehe lol I'm Christain but I don't push beliefs on other people.  I also believe in creation and evolution and the Big bang and all that.  I think they have common ground.  People always keep them separate but I think they should go along with each other. That museum seems interesting but I never go to museums much...prolly only been to like five or six.  One major one I think. lol   Like you said this could be a problem for the next generation.  Who knows?  But it's likely.  Oh God what is the world coming to?

Heh, I though EXACTLY the same as you. They shouldn't be separated but both the religious viewpoint and the sci-un-tifical viewpoint should be combined. They go hand in hand when you put some thought into it, and the next generation will without doubt be... misguided... but I don't think all of it will be, just a part.
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MrSaturday

I love religious apologists. "o hay science works but god is cool too"

Deliciously_Saucy

Egh, I just started watching some clips on the creationist museum (didn't see this thread when it was made) and I have this horrid sinking feeling in my chest. This is literally evil and corrupted. Sickening...

This is nothing short of a brainwashing facility; because creationists can't compete on a scientific level they resort to using America's pathetic town controlled schooling system using pleas to emotions NOT scientific evidence. I did not think they would resort to using such upfront manipulation of the ignorant masses.

I heard a statistic of what the US people think about science: Only a quarter accept evolution as fact and are growing increasingly more detached to the ideas brought by the scientific community. You say religion isn't causing damage? This is going to be more damaging to the next American generation then most propaganda could dream of.

This is an actual quote from a person (Christian) who didn't know whether to believe in evolution or creationism AFTER he visited the museum "Well sure you can prove evolution scientifically and you can't with the bible, but any thing that's created, must have a creator. That's just common sense.".

Enjoy your doings America, the whole world is laughing at you.

Arkbennett

Yeah, religious zealots blow.
I believe in a god, but I don't believe in the bible so much.

For example the video I just posted, one of the King James edited the bible to include witchcraft and sorcery, it's original meaning was con artist, not wizards and witchs... But...
As you can see, not many people are aware of that change and never changed it back. So crazy bitchs like the above link are ignorant.

Also, Christianity is a belief, not a religion.

Also, I believe in evolution.

Also, I got some guys to cherry pop the old bag in her sleep.

And DSaucy, I agree with you on the brainwashing thing, and propaganda and such. But it's not just religion.
Scientology anybody? (Wait, isn't that a religion..?)

Roph

#8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)

Scientology, in my opinion, is not a religion, but a cult. I think america recognises scientology as a religion, though some countries don't (I know germany doesn't, for example).

What I find continually hilarious about scientology is their core belief / story. Let me quote the first few words of it's wiki article:

QuoteScientology is a body of beliefs and related techniques created by American science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard

LOL

Great site: http://xenu.net

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology#Controversy_and_criticism - I'm shielded by a wall of not caring, but if it were't there I'd have a strong hate of scientology and be filled with anger when reading about all the shit they do.
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Arkbennett

Yeah, it's a cult.  :D
I think they are just stupid.

Stupid people are funny.

SirJackRex

Quote from: Roph on August 18, 2007, 07:33:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)

Scientology, in my opinion, is not a religion, but a cult. I think america recognises scientology as a religion, though some countries don't (I know germany doesn't, for example).


Uh....no....

Quote from: Arkbennett on August 18, 2007, 07:44:38 AM
Yeah, it's a cult.  :D
I think they are just stupid.

Stupid people are funny.

Agreed.

Roph

Quote from: SirJackRex on August 19, 2007, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Roph on August 18, 2007, 07:33:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)

Scientology, in my opinion, is not a religion, but a cult. I think america recognises scientology as a religion, though some countries don't (I know germany doesn't, for example).


Uh....no....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology#Scientology_as_a_state-recognized_religion

QuoteScientology is considered a legitimate religion in the United States of America,
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SirJackRex

Quote from: Roph on August 19, 2007, 02:01:48 AM
Quote from: SirJackRex on August 19, 2007, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Roph on August 18, 2007, 07:33:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)

Scientology, in my opinion, is not a religion, but a cult. I think america recognises scientology as a religion, though some countries don't (I know germany doesn't, for example).


Uh....no....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology#Scientology_as_a_state-recognized_religion

QuoteScientology is considered a legitimate religion in the United States of America,

God help us...