I think motst of school is useless enless you are going into that field. For instance math anything past algebra 1 is totally useless unless you are going into that field.
Not at all. I, as a future programmer need a lot of maths. When we were going through geometry and trigonometric functions I thought "I won't ever need that. Why do I have to learn that shit?!" It's similar now with differential equations. You know the effect when water splashes up if something falls into it? Those are numerous of differential equations that make this effect possible. You can't build a house without math. You need to calculate the statics of the material you're using and possible disruptions. Msth is all around us, even if you don't notice. I think I'm not going to far if I say more than 99% of the technology and anything else wouldn't have been possible without math.
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand math as well. (>.<)
Ok good point but alot of the math you were talking about could be acomplished with a lower math than Trig. And even if the couldn't or required more then do you think that math should only be taken as an elective and be forced up to tenth grade
Nothing is useless and nothing is more important than anything else.
School time restrictions however are useless, they prevent the slow kids from learning and they prevent the brighter kids from fully using their potential.
They also don't focus enough on the arts, which in turn results in unsofisticated people. (sports-nerds)
It isn't useless. It still exercises your brain no matter if you go to culinary college, Law School, or become a high school drop-out.
I see were you are going ok what do you they shoould focus on more, i know the arts but what should mandatory and what not or classes that should be offered for different people
I agree with Elegy. But there is not enough time and money to educate each person individually. =/
yeah right but how do you think school should be set up now or in the future with the curent money situation.
learning stuff ur not necessarily going to use makes u a more rounded person, and if later in life, say u decide u lifelong dream is really to be an engineer (which uses alot of math) and now u have only a algebra I grasp on math ur going to be doing a lot of work to catch-up to that point.
also, learning stuff difficult like math makes u more adept at challenging urself to take in and accommodate new information, as opposed to just assimilating everything u see. math also teaches value problem solving skills, so despite whatever field ur going into, that skill will be useful.
I see your point but how do you think that we should improve the school patterns or if we should have an elective that we don't already have.
math is vitally important in improving our ability to learn so i dont think it should be elective.
i'm not sure what u meant by school pattern...
most problems with the amount of options given for electives, like art electives, are cause because of a lack of federal funding for the schools. if u really feel their needs to be better art programs...take it up with politicians.
I agree with Elegy on that point too. I had a horrible time at high school, it's not exactly an easy place to learn in, ironic I guess...
But many public schools in Australia have taken up that notion, they now teach students a trade ( carpenter, electronic, etc... ) rather then the normal "higher" education, sad really, although it's needed it's practically telling the kids that they should just give up.
At least this topic doesn't need to be moved to General Chat, lol!
I think it's a necessary evil. Learning the basics opens you possibilities.
Would I be correct in guessing you're still in school?
You sound just like the typical schoolkid who thinks studying sucks and why bother learning math if we have calculators etc.
You're not just learning only the subject matter, it's helping you gain ingenuity. I can't even remember most of the math I was taught, but I could get pretty far through a problem before needing any help, and maybe even not need any at all.
Yes I am in school but I do agree with you guys I am just asking what you guy think and what parts could they do to make better. I know how my school stands and how I stand but not others like you
It's true what Silverline says. If you've already seen the kind of problem it's easier to recall it later. Like "Wait... How did those trigonometric functions work...?". It's easier to recall stuff then learn it from the beginning on. =/
yes That I can agree with but many people don't go back to college to do something like that they ususally get right out of high school and try a carreer like that.
Quote from: Blizzard on March 12, 2007, 09:06:10 PM
Not at all. I, as a future programmer need a lot of maths. When we were going through geometry and trigonometric functions I thought "I won't ever need that. Why do I have to learn that shit?!" It's similar now with differential equations. You know the effect when water splashes up if something falls into it? Those are numerous of differential equations that make this effect possible. You can't build a house without math. You need to calculate the statics of the material you're using and possible disruptions. Msth is all around us, even if you don't notice. I think I'm not going to far if I say more than 99% of the technology and anything else wouldn't have been possible without math.
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand math as well. (>.<)
Math is boring in school but yes you need I also need it Because..
I cant remember, but i say School is necessary sometimes a bit to overrated yes but still without school we would all be a bunch of retards and not even debate this here
School is only useless if you don't care about doing well in it. People who want to learn things will find it more rewarding. Having someone show you how things work is a huge help to me, because I can make myself capable of doing it myself after that. Homework, on the other hand, is mostly a waste of time. If you learn by repetition, that's fine. Do what you have to do to learn. Anything more than that is just busywork, and takes away from other things you could be getting accomplished.
What subjects do you thik that they could get rid of and why?
Homework - Easy. Waste of time. It seems that if I DO my homework, my algebra teacher doesn't check it, but if I don't do one problem, say, then she checks it and freaks out at me (hehe, I know, that's life)
Computer class - Boring, if you're me. I know everything we're learning. My stupid teacher doesn't know anything about computers (an error message popped up the other day and she freaked out because it said "press OK to resume the program" and didn't know what to do...). I say, computer should be "learn programming and not KidPix".
That's pretty much my two cents about school (and which classes / subjects suck).
YES, I'm in school. I do well in all my classes except when I don't do my waste of time homework. Even my teachers say that homework is worthless...
Hm... I barely learn and get good grades. But it's only because I listened in class and made my homework... Since I'm in college, I am doing it the same and I'm still successful. I guess I learn much in class and that homework is just enough to not forget all of this. One day of learning before the exam is usually enough for me. I think homework does very much have a point.
I guess I am really unlucky, I go to a private school and sense we don't have alot of money to do things we just got a computer lab. The part that sucks is that my class is the first class that it is required to take the computer class unless he does not want to graduate.
Hmm... Blizzard you have a point. One day of learning before an exam is all I need, as well. It's just homework is pointless if you know all of the topics. What is the point of wasting 3+ hours afterschool (so like I get home at five and work until 8:30 and then go to bed at 9? Where is my time to do extra crap like work on my RPG and my programming projects? I am trying to cycle school, my rpg, my projects (usually in Ruby, Python or C++), and also being an active member of the 2 forums that I am a member of. It's just not *fair*. Weekends suck too because usually I have an essay or report to do over them. I get from like 8AM to 10AM to work on my crap and then 7PM-10PM on weekends to do stuff. Not enough for the stuff I need to do.
My opinion is that homework should EXIST, but should be minimal enough so that extra curricular activities besides my sports (uhg) right after school should be able to be accomplished. Besides those activities, I have guitar lessons, practicing, and then jazz band (only on Mondays and Fridays). My grades stay fairly high (B+ - A+) and my exam and test grades are also high, but I still have no time to relax if I want to make money (for those of you that think I can stop some of my programming, I can't, because I have a piece of software to manage and debug if I want to make any money at all).
Welll, i'm just going to refer to cobragamer, that yes, there are many duffers who just come to the field to play, well i get exited in the p.e period too, though those fools wont let some of us play anything, they think themselves to be better than us. Yeah right. It's not like im bad at sports, but im better at studying, no, not a nerd either, i manage to get 90%, i manage to just spent maybe 1-2 hrs a day studying, not like the whole day, thats why i cum round here a lot, and i manage to do nice in football too.
Its just the fact that the students are not willing to study, like, i like p.e but dont demad it in every period, but they do, which is their problem, if they dun wanna. Any student can do nice if he just puts his/her mind into it(no not fairy tale morals, fairy tale morals suck), but no one is willing to try.
And those who do good in studies don't get a chance in sports, because they think theyre nerds.
I mean, we do get a chance, but not the main guy, well i like being a defender, but there are others, who are much much better than me, but all the get is another defender position. But the shooter should be there, because he sucks so badly. When he cant do a goal, its nothing, when we cant, he starts shouting like hell, i feel like slapping him.
Wait, we're going out of topic @_@
Just we gotta concentrate that the student should be good, not the periods
The thing elegy said bout arts, i agree =D
For the first time @_@
Quote from: cobragamer on March 12, 2007, 08:59:54 PM
I think motst of school is useless
You should go back to school. xD
School itself, as bothersome as it is, familiarizes you with your peer group and helps you acquire social skills in the most crucial developmental years of your life. I mean, even the retards make friends in special ed.
I do think more time and funding should go into the arts, but I'd say math is more important. Even if you "don't need it" it still teaches you to think abstractly constructively, apply the correct solution to problems, use logic etc., which is more important, in my opinion, than learning the difference between Van Gogh and Picasso and silly, frivolous things like that.
Learning doesn't make you a nerd. What makes you a nerd is memorizing. People who really learn, DO understand what they are learning. It's harder, but much more effective. When you understand something you can "restore" the knowledge others just memorized without any problems, any time.
Yeah, I think school is useless, but only after a certain point. I don't think I have learned anything usefull I will ever need in math in the last 4 years, and the only career I can see needing to know that math is if I were to be a math teacher! I think school needs to be much harder, focusing less on how hard a person tries, and more on how smart they actually are.
I guess that is why that they have ap courses so that the smarter kids can excel while the dumb kids end up as plumbers
not true at all....My dad never passed thought highschool heck he didn't even take highschool in the USA and he makes WAY above what he is supposed to. =D
Anything that is taught to you in any level is useless if you don't care about your life and your future.
Well that that is the reason it is useless to me.
That explains why your answer to "Why can Jesus walk on the water" was so unintelligent.
If you don't care about anything, then I don't think you'll get too far in life. I tell you by experience. I have a brother that only cares for an online game, and in return, his life is being tore apart, ruined, trashed.
Good luck getting out of that depression or however you wish to call it.
I don't call it a depression, I call it freedom. Freedom from living within the shallow world you call life, where you are just trotted off to you death. You seem to think that doing something with your life will impact people? It won't. I don't think that humanity as a whole is very meaningfull. We are pretty meaningless, and I don't expect us to last much longer.
You don't live for others. I think you live for yourself. And learning and doing something good is a way to make life more pleasant, rather than living in a void, doing nothing, feeling nothing.
To me, life may be a shadow, without light, there is no shadow. Or am I wrong?
What you do with your life is up to you. Just make sure that you don't regret it. I believe there is just one life to live, and that we must not waste the time we were given. And if we have some power, some skill or talent, we should use it.
But then again, this is my opinion, which may differ from yours.
Quote from: biohazard on March 16, 2007, 02:23:13 PM
I don't call it a depression, I call it freedom. Freedom from living within the shallow world you call life, where you are just trotted off to you death. You seem to think that doing something with your life will impact people? It won't. I don't think that humanity as a whole is very meaningfull. We are pretty meaningless, and I don't expect us to last much longer.
Sorry man, but hahahahahahahahaha. You sound like a comic book character. Ok, back to the topic at hand...
It may be a cruel thing to say, but I always thought vocational classes in highschool, the ones that taught skills instead of fundamental knowledge, were for people that lacked the mental capacity to become intelligent, well-rounded people.
But some people are like that, and for those people vocational classes in highschool are a god-send. They're not smart enough to work on wall street and they know it, or they know they don't want to try that hard, so they instead concentrate on something they enjoy, like working on cars, and some highschools offer voteck classes for that.
All bases covered.
So no, highschool isn't useless at all. Even on a social level.
True. The world needs everything. If we would be all scientists with a Doctor title, we would have a biiiiiiiiiiiiig problem...
That is right. This is how the world works. There are levels. Although I would love to live in a world where everybody had the same rights and opportunities, it is almost impossible, and there seems to be no chance for something like that to happen.
Quote from: arl on March 16, 2007, 04:01:27 PM
It may be a cruel thing to say, but I always thought vocational classes in highschool, the ones that taught skills instead of fundamental knowledge, were for people that lacked the mental capacity to become intelligent, well-rounded people.
But some people are like that, and for those people vocational classes in highschool are a god-send. They're not smart enough to work on wall street and they know it, or they know they don't want to try that hard, so they instead concentrate on something they enjoy, like working on cars, and some highschools offer voteck classes for that.
All bases covered.
So no, highschool isn't useless at all. Even on a social level.
I feel like I may have to take that one day.
I think it's a waste that some kids just like to talk and do nothing in school and then when the teacher gets on their ass they roll their eyes and call them a bitch or something. I think school is useless to THOSE people.
As for me, I'd like to get more than a high school education. I'm not going to be one of those people that drop out and say Life Sucks. I can't afford that, and I wouldn't even THINK about it. I want to be proud of what I've been able to overcome and not live a life with too much regret. And I feel that the first step to living that way would be getting through school. So to me, school is not useless.
...sorry if I sounded corny.
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I feel like I may have to take that one day.
I think it's a waste that some kids just like to talk and do nothing in school and then when the teacher gets on their ass they roll their eyes and call them a bitch or something.
I never call my teachers bitches... Well, maybe some of them. I try and acheive a 75% average, I could probably achieve much more, but I don't feel compelled to. Worlds gonna end in 2012 anyway, whats the point.
School is probly not useless as a whole but some of my teachers need to be fired like our pe teacher is at least but probly more than 450 pounds and I kid you not
Then dont go to school. Stay home and irritate ppl. I dont agree that school is useless. And i posted why too.
school is not useless but there is some things that need to be changed. I think we all share on this statement so I will end the debate
*posts in a locked topic**not anymore*
Quote from: biohazard on March 16, 2007, 11:03:23 PM
Worlds gonna end in 2012 anyway, whats the point.
2014*
Ahh, noway man, 2012. What makes you say 2014? I'm curious. pm me so they can stay on topic.
Check out the topic from Irock "How can you honestly not believe...". There's a link on top of page 2 or 3. It was... very interesting.
it isn't useless it depends if the student is willing to learn. The more effort you put into your work the better grades you can achieve but if you make no effort then yes school is useless to you.
I think its not "can everyone achieve good grades" but more, are good grades important, and rather, does school help you achieve them.
A) Chances of world ending = Very little...no matter what comes our way...while we are still on the planet we will eliminate the problem...that is what nukes were invented for.
Therefore the Chances of the world ending are nil because we are here. However...we are likely to nuke each other, and the chances of Humanity ending are a little higher than the world ending...and even that has a small chance.
As for the bible...*twitch*
Chances of someone accurately predicting the worlds events...yeah...Nostradameus (sp) and the doomsday book was accurately predicted and even mentioned an actual village (that I live in) and the facts about that were true too (don't ask me what they were I just know they are). Coalville is the place.
So yeah he predicted far more than anyone else...his major one, was that the world was going to end...and it was false. Then again, depends on what he meant by the world ending, it could have been a mis-translation. Wasn't he on Opium?
Yeah, as for the *twitch*...I'm not a fan of the new testament...it's erm...a book of stories! The only testament that has some sort of truth to it (in my eyes) is the old testament...and that's because I enjoyed reading the whole lot...especially Genesis. That was fun.
I thought i'd put my two cents in, but I hope I don't cause any offence, I'm Pagan (sort of) so I do believe in er...higher powers of sorts as well...until the day comes when each belief is proven wrong. I don't see why you should believe religion when clearly Science states otherwise. God made the earth...and the scientist within me yells: Prove it...and I have to agree, there is more proof that the old earth collided with a new planet to form the current one than there is of God creating the world and humanity from Adam and Eve...unless...they were...monkeys...XD
Not trying to criticize beliefs...it's just a little hard to understand from a scientists point of view. (Same goes for every other religious text).
So here's my braincell worth of info...I think that's the last one I had...
Quote from: Ravenshade on March 22, 2007, 02:56:25 PM
A) Chances of world ending = Very little...no matter what comes our way...while we are still on the planet we will eliminate the problem...that is what nukes were invented for.
Therefore the Chances of the world ending are nil because we are here. However...we are likely to nuke each other, and the chances of Humanity ending are a little higher than the world ending...and even that has a small chance.
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That was one of the dumbest things I have read in a long time. Most of the reasons the world would end are completely out of our control, and a nuke would not help... You seem to think people have a firm grasp on our planet, and have control over what goes on. You are wrong, we are just along for the ride.
Quote from: Masturbarney on March 22, 2007, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Ravenshade on March 22, 2007, 02:56:25 PM
A) Chances of world ending = Very little...no matter what comes our way...while we are still on the planet we will eliminate the problem...that is what nukes were invented for.
Therefore the Chances of the world ending are nil because we are here. However...we are likely to nuke each other, and the chances of Humanity ending are a little higher than the world ending...and even that has a small chance.
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That was one of the dumbest things I have read in a long time. Most of the reasons the world would end are completely out of our control, and a nuke would not help... You seem to think people have a firm grasp on our planet, and have control over what goes on. You are wrong, we are just along for the ride.
Erm...dumbest...most likely. However, it's the most grounded. I never said nukes would help...they just dispose of problems, and if they don't dispose of them, we invent something that will. That was why the nuke was invented...to get rid of a problem that nothing else could do...as efficiently at least.
We have every control of what goes on. We cut down all the trees: We die and the planet increases in global warming 20x at least. Desertification occurs and voila dead planet.
We plant tree: Planet produces more Oxygen, recycles more Carbon Dioxide, planet gets colder, yeah...but more enriched with oxygen.
We over fish: Animals die, predators find a lack of food source, they die of starvation (or eat each other)...empty oceans (Eventually...)
We control our fishing: ...do you really want me to go on, on how much control we actually have.
We are the most intelligent species on our planet and have the ability to evolve without end. We just need to know one thing: How.
The only way our planet will die, is if we are stupid enough to A) let it, or B) wait for
499,999,999,999 years for the sun to explode (or around about that number...so scientists predict at least)
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One way a nuke does help however: Eradicates population = More space...even if it's irradiated. Animals around Chenobyl don't seem to care about the radiation.
So yeah, next time you want to just call me dumb, come up with some evidence as to why and why we do not have a firm control over our planet. I dare you in the name of science. Prove me wrong.
Well, aside from the numerous meteors that are hurtling in our planets direction right now, the fact that there will be a major pole shift december 21, 2012, and the fact that greenhouse effect will melt the polar icecaps if not fully stopped in the next XX years, flooding most of the earth, the supervolcanoes that can spring up at any time, and the moving plates that crash violently into eachother, yeah, we are in complete control. (OVERUSE OF COMMAS) ::)
The pole shift isn't going to kill anyone. The only thing that is going to happen, is there will begin to be hotspots of reversed polarity around the earth before it flips. This MAY, (and I use may lightly,) cause a bit more cases of cancer, and a faw cell phones and computers to go out of whack before it's over. Do some research on the subject. It's one of the most interesting things i've ever read about. It is actually not a rare occurrence.
Yeah. If I'm not wrong pole shifting happens how often? Was it every 10000 years or every 30000 years?
I don't remember exactly, but there is lava rock that some scientists tested, and it kept changing polarity the farther inland they tested. Pretty neat stuff.
every 28 000 years a cataclysmic(sp?) pole shift happens, and the north and south pole re-align in roughly 1 week, for that 4-7 days, it is basically hell on earth as the first poles melt, flooding the oceans, the plates re-align, causing unwater earthquakes that bring 3 mile waves to shore, hurricanes, tornadoes and basically all manner of terrible natural disasters happen, including volcanoes coming up almost instantly from the newly made fault lines. After this apocolyptic nightmare, I doubt anyone will be left alive.
That's not what happens. Lol, for thinking that though. Do a little reading, and don't play so many video games.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/ (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/)
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/29dec_magneticfield.htm (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/29dec_magneticfield.htm)
And I quote, from the last one, "sometimes, maybe, a little change can be a good thing."
Yeah from what I remember on the subject Holk is right, it won't be anything along the lines of Armageddon but it will have some short term negative effects. The benefits are quite interesting as well, some feel the reason why life hasn't evolved to the size of the dinosaurs was because of the pole shift that happened after their extinction.
We are currently in a lower magnetic state, being introduced to a higher one could definitely have benefits.
The Aurora Borealis will be able to be seen from many new locations on the earth during the shift.
Well, I guess we'll see who is right. 2012, december 21. Precession of the Equinox. I'm talking about the Mayan prophecies, and the six suns and all that.
Quote from: biohazard on March 24, 2007, 02:40:08 AM
Well, aside from the numerous meteors that are hurtling in our planets direction right now, the fact that there will be a major pole shift december 21, 2012, and the fact that greenhouse effect will melt the polar icecaps if not fully stopped in the next XX years, flooding most of the earth, the supervolcanoes that can spring up at any time, and the moving plates that crash violently into eachother, yeah, we are in complete control. (OVERUSE OF COMMAS) ::)
Numerous Meteors...do you really think the Chinese and American governments will let any major ones destroy us? We'll crush them.
Greenhouse effect...is actually NATURAL...us speeding it up isn't gonna do much. We're over due for an ice age already, and the Green House effect will only speed it up. Check the gulf stream and what not, it will shut down once the temperature gets so high, and then the temperatures will plummet. Who cares if the world floods....we'll just either do what the dutch did, or build underwater or underground, or on the water.
Super volcanoes - likelyness of one coming up = 0...or there abouts. Stop watching Hollywood movies is my advice. We'll just deal with them as they come, we're building bigger and better machines, huge explosions will do most of the work for us, cutting paths for the lava to reach the oceans.
The moving plates that crash into each other. Tectonic Plates you mean...yeah...go have a look at the Japanese and how they ride through most of the earthquakes. The San Andrea's was unfortunate, and so was the Tsunami, pity about that, wouldn't have been so much damage if it wasn't for the tourists. *shrug* But even that we can deal with. Erect huge walls, explosions to disrupt the Tsunami and break it. There are numerous things we can do in this day and age.
Sure they might not be in our control, but we've adapted so that they can no longer affect us as such. Sure it was the most damaging disaster on record, however, the damage was made worse by cutting down the mangroves. That was our fault...we cut them down.
But the Magnetic Polarity....I pity the people with pace makers...XD.
But if all that did happen at once Bio, half of it would negate the other. Therefore making it ineffective.
Guys go to is the world endding topic or some thing because we are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off base and it is getting irritating. School, what about as a time sucker, Some stuff is a waste of time like busy work.
WOW! this topic is about school? How about, some people not most. There, I just answered the question.
To me, school is almost useless. Because the books there are not interesting, and the subjects are too easy except math. Darn math.
But I have courses so what?
Except that school give me friends. Now that's kind of useful.
So... Schools, here, is USELESS to people, because everything you learn in schools HERE is education for Civil Officers.
Except if that's a GOOD, TOP school.
My school is starting to turn to TOP but I still think it's useless because I have courses.
Yet my parents insisted to keep me in school.
I guess, to increase my social network.
you are some, honestly, the debate is over I think. I think I am the some too.
Quote from: Ravenshade on March 29, 2007, 01:31:39 PM
Numerous Meteors...do you really think the Chinese and American governments will let any major ones destroy us? We'll crush them.
Greenhouse effect...is actually NATURAL...us speeding it up isn't gonna do much. We're over due for an ice age already, and the Green House effect will only speed it up. Check the gulf stream and what not, it will shut down once the temperature gets so high, and then the temperatures will plummet. Who cares if the world floods....we'll just either do what the dutch did, or build underwater or underground, or on the water.
Super volcanoes - likelyness of one coming up = 0...or there abouts. Stop watching Hollywood movies is my advice. We'll just deal with them as they come, we're building bigger and better machines, huge explosions will do most of the work for us, cutting paths for the lava to reach the oceans.
I read a few things, seen some tv shows on discovery, and have been told by a few proffesors at my collage that a lot of the astroids flying around out there are a lot softer than we had originally thought. If we were somehow able to blow a planet-killer sized one up into little pieces, the dmmage to Earth would actually be worst because now all that mass is spread out over a larger area. All the tricks for using nucks to divert an astroid on a collision couse with earth won't work either because a soft astriod would just absorb the blast wave.
Greanhouse effect is, as I believe after doing some reasurce and talking with my proffesors, mostly natural. Valcanos through out a lot more greenhouse gasses than most people realize. However, things we do do have an impact and as you said, things we do speeding up the process is a problem. If the climate changes rapidly in 50 or 100 years vs changing slowly over a few hundred years will make a difference.
If plants and animals don't have time to adjust to a changing climate, we will start having mass extinctions which will effect the whole food chain including us.
There are a few things that have raised a few eyebrows though. Like tempratures on Mars also reaching recored highs since we have recorded them (which admitily is not long) sudgesting that the sun may be a facter in our warming trend.
Anouther curious blip is Antartcia (according to my geology prof) that has had record cold winters the last three years and ocean temps have also been reaching record lows the past few years.
On supervalcanos, there is one under Yellowstone that is due for an eruption, but is could be 100 years or tomarrow, no one can predict. The data on past eruptions is really intesting though. If it were to erupt, the biggest problem would be people having to evacuate. I don;t think the ash cloud would block out the sun for too long and it would mostly effect to US, I think. I'm not too sure on that part. And cutting a path to the ocean for lava to flow out ouf Yellowstone is out of the question. It is too far inland for that.