Whats with MGS4?

Why is snake soo old in comparison to the other characters a.k.a Naomi? Fox-die perhaps?

no......i think this is because this will be the last game...

Accelerated aging + FOXDie IIRC

Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

True. They better have David doing the voice acting still. Hmmm i wonder if they'll still have mgs games after this...

David Hayter has been going downhill since after MGS2. MGS3+PO seems to have him do his hanging voice effect after every word, but not enough emotion, and then try to pass it off as good voice acting. He's even stated (can't find link, trust me on this) that he can't get to the point he was at, when he originally did MGS back on the PSX.

though his voice is still very iconic to me for Solid Snake.

maybe it's just me /:

Oh shut the fuck up and enjoy the damn games. They're pretty much flawless.

Oh shut the fuck up and enjoy the damn games. They're pretty much flawless.

Amen to that, im just wondering why hes soo old. And for the record in number 3 he was fucking badass, and he had tons of emotion.

Pfft, like any metal gear solid game but the second was good.  WE'VE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING! RAIDEN OUT!

Pfft, like any metal gear solid game but the second was good.  WE'VE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING! RAIDEN OUT!

Im gonna grab my balls and run around this place. *BrnG* *Brng* Raiden: Colonel? Colonel: 64 I NEED SCICSORS!@

Emotion? Uh, yeah MGS3 had plenty of it. ...Just not from David Hayter's mouth.

Eva delivered most of the emotion in the finale, as she explained what really happened. Snake was nearly wordless, thus that scene was near perfect.

also, Raiden OWNS. Screw the haters. Thought he was badass back in 2 (my favorite MGS), and now he's super badass.

ok we get it you like his ass

ok we get it you like his ass

Yeah what a queer eh? He looks soo much better in four.

Isn't big boss supposed to be old?

Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.

Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.

Then, if the snakes are clones of big boss, why wouldn't he be old looking?
(I only played mg1, mg2 and mgs twin snakes.

I got number 2 substance finally...And i dunno about big boss, i never played any of the really lod school ones for psx, so that last i heard of him was Portable Ops...

I got number 2 substance finally...And i dunno about big boss, i never played any of the really lod school ones for psx, so that last i heard of him was Portable Ops...

Big Boss turned evil many years after the Snake Eater/Portable Ops Era and tried to create a world just for soldiers. (THat's what liquid was talking about in MGS1/The twin snakes. He was trying to carry on his dream.) ANd he is still trying to carry on his dream of a world for soldiers in MGS4 even though he is dead he is controlling Ocelot(crazy huh)

I still find it hard to belive that Big Boss changed....I bet theres something else, and i bet Eva has something to do with it. I wish they'd re-do the origonal Metal Gear games. Then i'd play them.

Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.

Then, if the snakes are clones of big boss, why wouldn't he be old looking?
(I only played mg1, mg2 and mgs twin snakes.

Hmmm, if I understand this right...

Both Solid Snake and his nemesis, Liquid Snake, are actually clones of Big Boss created in the 70s from a secret government experiment known as the Les Enfants Terribles project (French for The Terrible Children, and a frequent nickname for particularly iconoclastic film directors). While recovering from a war injury, Big Boss' cell samples were extracted and then reproduced through analog cloning and the Super Baby method. The cells were fertilized into an ovum, resulting in eight clone babies, and then planted into a surrogate mother. Six of the babies (later revealed to had only been five) were then intentionally aborted to encourage strong fetal growth with the remaining two (Later found out to be three) clones: Solid and Liquid (and Solidus). Solid Snake was raised in the United States, while Liquid was adopted by the British government. Solidus Snake ended up in Africa.

Wikipedia, the easy response maker. >_>;;;;

Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

The real versions were on the MSX. The NES version of Metal Gear was ... pretty bad. It also changed the story. They also had an unofficial (but still fun) sequel to the NES version, called Snakes Revenge. Don't take this game as canon. It is not. The official sequel can be found on the MSX, and also on the second disc of MGS3: S, which is fully translated. I would check it out if I were you. It's pretty fun.

Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

I know. LoL Whats an MSX?

Wait, WTF?

How could the NES one mess up the story? They were first you idiot.

They made the story, yeah they were crappy though...

Wait, WTF?

How could the NES one mess up the story? They were first you idiot.

They made the story, yeah they were crappy though...

EDIT: You're right. Silly me. XD

I actually really like MGS2 substance....

I like all of them. I cried at the end of MGS3, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Maybe you should be just a bit ashamed.

I don't think i could cry, i didn't find it that emotional. But if snake does die in the new game, im getting out the Kleenex.

 :tpg:I should have read this topic. I just started playing MGS 1 and took upon myself to play out the series, but I see no use anymore...I need a hug!

I still think that mgs1 is the best one

Well obviously, the first game is always the best.

Two is actually really good.

I actually never got into the series too much.
Twin Snakes was fun.

I love how shotty the AI can be sometimes. Like knocking on a wall and then slipping right around the corner in the guards periferals, and then they don't notice....

Hey! Leave the guard alone man. They got it hard man, they got it hard!

ITS JUST A BOX. I love that phrase almost as much as much as I leik mudkipz.

BAM BAM YOUR DEAD BITCH!

What was that noise?

I love MGS2. Liek i was playing it somemore today and E.E died. *tear*

So ah, me and a couple friends were playing it yesterday, on VR.  The mode was holdup, so you have to get behind the guy and pull out your gun.  My friend puts this guard to sleep, they wakes him up with coolant.  He panics, crawls forward, and goes through the guards ankles as he stands up, and then holds up his kneecaps, this worked.  1 guard down.

I once walked right out of the way clearly in front of the guard in VR. it was pretty sick.

The third one is emotional if you remember playing the first one for Nes when you were little, because all of the events that take place are the reason that Big Boss became evil.

The third one is emotional if you remember playing the first one for Nes when you were little, because all of the events that take place are the reason that Big Boss became evil.

Got a link to an english ROM?

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE NEW TRAILER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L33CLNWXTdg

IT BLEW ME AWAY!

Hahahhaha Dave Navarro is back.

Raiden is sooo badass in that, he was fighting vamp, as far as I can tell.

Err yeah Vamp...

wow, Liquid's arm has taken full control of Ocelot's body....anyway awesome video 

They said it was going to be

A. The last MGS game all together, no more Acid or anything

B. Kojimas last game forevarz.

They said it was going to be

A. The last MGS game all together, no more Acid or anything

B. Kojimas last game forevarz.

WHY!!!! NOOOOOOO!!! lol.... but why he wont be making more metal gear games?

Because he's a goddamn racist bastard.  I bet he makes more MGS games, and releases them only in asia.

Because he's a goddamn racist bastard.  I bet he makes more MGS games, and releases them only in asia.

That SOB, I'm gonna kill him for that.....lol

He's 60 something years old, he is retiring. :O

They said it was going to be

A. The last MGS game all together, no more Acid or anything

B. Kojimas last game forevarz.

I don't think its the last mgs. It just said the last game starring solid snake. Im pretty sure there will be more, like in acid. And i'd really like to see a remake of the first two metal gears...and

Kojimas last game?

Yeah, the MGS series is O-V-E-R. They may make more Acid, but no more canon, the license to MGS is with Kojima, they can't take that away, so they can't make more series of MGS.

Stop, you'll make him cry.

Too late.

New Metal Gear Solid Trailer, ACTUAL GAMEPLAY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFtczVn9ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFtczVn9ng

Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

True. They better have David doing the voice acting still. Hmmm i wonder if they'll still have mgs games after this...

Maybe, but if they do, it probably will be a new era by involving Raiden?

Every MGS you play as Snake, but on MG2 and maybe 3 (Raiden is on it but not sure about playability) he has been around.


Raiden seems to bee using Mr X's uniform (Ulgar or w/e its spelt)

Dude!
I'm such a MGS fanboy! 

I love this series with all my tiny little warm heart. 

Raiden is a ninja, he's using a super enhanced exoskeleton, much like Greyfox on no.1, but Greyfox was more or less a cyborg.

And foxdie doesn't age Snake at all, him being a clone.
If you played no.1, you mayremember McDonald Miller say, "Snake, you havn't aged well."
Also, fox die is a virus that kills people with a specific genetic coding.
Snake basically has AIDS.

And yeah, last MGS game by Hideo Kojima, I'm not buying any more MGS games if there are any after this.
I just hope he atleast makes a Intergral/Substance/Subsistence version!

Dude!
I'm such a MGS fanboy! 

I love this series with all my tiny little warm heart. 

Raiden is a ninja, he's using a super enhanced exoskeleton, much like Greyfox on no.1, but Greyfox was more or less a cyborg.

And foxdie doesn't age Snake at all, him being a clone.
If you played no.1, you mayremember McDonald Miller say, "Snake, you havn't aged well."
Also, fox die is a virus that kills people with a specific genetic coding.
Snake basically has AIDS.

And yeah, last MGS game by Hideo Kojima, I'm not buying any more MGS games if there are any after this.
I just hope he atleast makes a Intergral/Substance/Subsistence version!

Do you own a ps3?

Nah, not yet.
If I bought it now, it would just sit there.

I'm waiting 'till next year when FFXIII and MGS4 is going to come out.

Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

True. They better have David doing the voice acting still. Hmmm i wonder if they'll still have mgs games after this...

they will be remaking zanzibar land and outer heaven after 4

He was saying something about there being thirty years to explore between like MGS3 and like MG1 so he maybe he would make more games like Portable Ops.

He was saying something about there being thirty years to explore between like MGS3 and like MG1 so he maybe he would make more games like Portable Ops.

I wish they'd release those on the PS2.
That was one of the worst games to put on PSP, a logn with Grand Theft Auto.

He was saying something about there being thirty years to explore between like MGS3 and like MG1 so he maybe he would make more games like Portable Ops.

I wish they'd release those on the PS2.
That was one of the worst games to put on PSP, a logn with Grand Theft Auto.

Really? I thought Portable Ops was really good.

He was saying something about there being thirty years to explore between like MGS3 and like MG1 so he maybe he would make more games like Portable Ops.

I wish they'd release those on the PS2.
That was one of the worst games to put on PSP, a logn with Grand Theft Auto.

Really? I thought Portable Ops was really good.

Oh, I'm sure it is.
I'm just saying Metal Gear Solid isn't a handheld game.
And it makes me sad inside that they put it exclusively on the PSP.

He was saying something about there being thirty years to explore between like MGS3 and like MG1 so he maybe he would make more games like Portable Ops.

I wish they'd release those on the PS2.
That was one of the worst games to put on PSP, a logn with Grand Theft Auto.

Really? I thought Portable Ops was really good.