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Whats with MGS4?

Started by The.Muffin.King, June 09, 2007, 12:48:47 AM

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The.Muffin.King

Why is snake soo old in comparison to the other characters a.k.a Naomi? Fox-die perhaps?

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Knight Rider

no......i think this is because this will be the last game... ;9

Ikzai

Accelerated aging + FOXDie IIRC
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Star_wolf

Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

The.Muffin.King

Quote from: Star_wolf on June 09, 2007, 02:25:12 AM
Like Solidus Snake its an affect from being a clone so rapid cell degeneration happens. I also read somewhere another reason is Cell degeneration combined with stress??? maybe

I'm thinking FOxdie....but the effects I think would have killed him not make him seem older

True. They better have David doing the voice acting still. Hmmm i wonder if they'll still have mgs games after this...

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Ikzai

David Hayter has been going downhill since after MGS2. MGS3+PO seems to have him do his hanging voice effect after every word, but not enough emotion, and then try to pass it off as good voice acting. He's even stated (can't find link, trust me on this) that he can't get to the point he was at, when he originally did MGS back on the PSX.

though his voice is still very iconic to me for Solid Snake.

maybe it's just me /:
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Holkeye

Oh shut the fuck up and enjoy the damn games. They're pretty much flawless.

The.Muffin.King

Quote from: Holkeye on June 09, 2007, 03:40:51 PM
Oh shut the fuck up and enjoy the damn games. They're pretty much flawless.

Amen to that, im just wondering why hes soo old. And for the record in number 3 he was fucking badass, and he had tons of emotion.

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biohazard

Pfft, like any metal gear solid game but the second was good.  WE'VE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING! RAIDEN OUT!

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Quote from: biohazard on June 09, 2007, 07:05:41 PM
Pfft, like any metal gear solid game but the second was good.  WE'VE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING! RAIDEN OUT!

Im gonna grab my balls and run around this place. *BrnG* *Brng* Raiden: Colonel? Colonel: 64 I NEED SCICSORS!@

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Ikzai

Emotion? Uh, yeah MGS3 had plenty of it. ...Just not from David Hayter's mouth.

Eva delivered most of the emotion in the finale, as she explained what really happened. Snake was nearly wordless, thus that scene was near perfect.

also, Raiden OWNS. Screw the haters. Thought he was badass back in 2 (my favorite MGS), and now he's super badass.
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Moss.

ok we get it you like his ass

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The.Muffin.King

Quote from: Alukarl on June 09, 2007, 09:04:06 PM
ok we get it you like his ass

Yeah what a queer eh? He looks soo much better in four.

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SirJackRex

Isn't big boss supposed to be old?

Ikzai

Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.
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Quote from: Ikzai on June 10, 2007, 04:35:11 AM
Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.

Then, if the snakes are clones of big boss, why wouldn't he be old looking?
(I only played mg1, mg2 and mgs twin snakes.

The.Muffin.King

I got number 2 substance finally...And i dunno about big boss, i never played any of the really lod school ones for psx, so that last i heard of him was Portable Ops...

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Quote from: The.Muffin.King on June 10, 2007, 02:15:12 PM
I got number 2 substance finally...And i dunno about big boss, i never played any of the really lod school ones for psx, so that last i heard of him was Portable Ops...

Big Boss turned evil many years after the Snake Eater/Portable Ops Era and tried to create a world just for soldiers. (THat's what liquid was talking about in MGS1/The twin snakes. He was trying to carry on his dream.) ANd he is still trying to carry on his dream of a world for soldiers in MGS4 even though he is dead he is controlling Ocelot(crazy huh)

The.Muffin.King

I still find it hard to belive that Big Boss changed....I bet theres something else, and i bet Eva has something to do with it. I wish they'd re-do the origonal Metal Gear games. Then i'd play them.

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SirJackRex

Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

Ikzai


Quote from: SirJackRex on June 10, 2007, 05:31:43 AM
Quote from: Ikzai on June 10, 2007, 04:35:11 AM
Big Boss is dead. He died in Metal Gear 2 for the MSX.

He WAS old when he died.

Then, if the snakes are clones of big boss, why wouldn't he be old looking?
(I only played mg1, mg2 and mgs twin snakes.

Hmmm, if I understand this right...

Both Solid Snake and his nemesis, Liquid Snake, are actually clones of Big Boss created in the 70s from a secret government experiment known as the Les Enfants Terribles project (French for The Terrible Children, and a frequent nickname for particularly iconoclastic film directors). While recovering from a war injury, Big Boss' cell samples were extracted and then reproduced through analog cloning and the Super Baby method. The cells were fertilized into an ovum, resulting in eight clone babies, and then planted into a surrogate mother. Six of the babies (later revealed to had only been five) were then intentionally aborted to encourage strong fetal growth with the remaining two (Later found out to be three) clones: Solid and Liquid (and Solidus). Solid Snake was raised in the United States, while Liquid was adopted by the British government. Solidus Snake ended up in Africa.

Wikipedia, the easy response maker. >_>;;;;

Quote from: SirJackRex on June 10, 2007, 06:33:52 PM
Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

The real versions were on the MSX. The NES version of Metal Gear was ... pretty bad. It also changed the story. They also had an unofficial (but still fun) sequel to the NES version, called Snakes Revenge. Don't take this game as canon. It is not. The official sequel can be found on the MSX, and also on the second disc of MGS3: S, which is fully translated. I would check it out if I were you. It's pretty fun. ^_^
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Quote from: SirJackRex on June 10, 2007, 06:33:52 PM
Old school ones were for NES.

Metal Gear Solid as PSX. MG was NES.

I know. LoL Whats an MSX?

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SirJackRex

Wait, WTF????

How could the NES one mess up the story? They were first you idiot.

They made the story, yeah they were crappy though...



Ikzai

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Quote from: SirJackRex on June 11, 2007, 03:25:24 AM
Wait, WTF????

How could the NES one mess up the story? They were first you idiot.

They made the story, yeah they were crappy though...

EDIT: You're right. Silly me. XD
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I actually really like MGS2 substance....

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