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Started by Tsunokiette, November 29, 2006, 01:43:06 AM

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ZaMullet

The things, methane, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, all have been found on asteroids floating on deep space. These were formed during the big bang, the big bang, i have no idea. By saying: where did that come from, where did that come from? will eventually lead you to "I dont know" anyway.

SexualBubblegumX

Okay, did I just answer the dinosaur question for nothing?

Djangonator

Quote from: ZaMullet on December 15, 2006, 03:07:53 AM
The things, methane, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, all have been found on asteroids floating on deep space. These were formed during the big bang, the big bang, i have no idea. By saying: where did that come from, where did that come from? will eventually lead you to "I dont know" anyway.


That's why people make up religions. The idea that life is arbitrary and meaningless frightens some people, and it's a "good" way to explain unexplainable things while indoctrinating people, I suppose.
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Roph

Where did god come from?

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Djangonator

LOL

Anyway, this is an example of Christian reasoning on dinosaurs.

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Knownot

Quote from: Tsunokiette on December 14, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Angelic_Diablo on December 14, 2006, 11:53:56 AM
I just went on a christian leaders campe and it made me think about god and all that...
I have now stoped believing.
I mean c'mon. Think about it. Its pretty much impossible. GOD pfft.

How so?

People say it's impossible for God to exist because the Bible says He was not created and that He was always there.

Then they turn around and say people were created by random chance. You ask them where the materials came from and they simply say "I don't know, they probably have been here forever." Excuses are made saying maybe aliens put the needed materials on earth. Okay, where did they come from?

It made not believe because there are those people who sit around and chant and praise another god, us christians get told that this is bad and all that stuff BUT watching at this camp its excatly what we do just for our god. We sit around and pray for something that isnt there, it cannot be felt, it cannot be seen.

Another thing, They say Jesus rose, right? by rising they mean levitated upwards???
If so where did he go? because us humans have "risen" you could say, in aeroplanes and found nothing of a heaven in the clouds, we have sent cameras to outer space and found nothing of heaven in other planets.

If christians are'nt alowed to drink, persay, then why was Jesus an alcoholic lol, not really, but int he bible he turned 4 one gallon drums of water to wine which calculates to about 700 bottles of wine? Now tell me that is not silly.

I don't believe anything from after death... infact death scares me because I dont know what happens. If there is no heaven and we just go... where does our memorys go and our thoughts/minds. If there is a heaven then why, if you bring somebody back from the dead, nobody remembers it.

What makes us? how did brains, hearts, bones and all other organs get put together miraculously. Im so freaking confused. I mean we havent been able to create humans yet? So how can somebody from over 5 million years ago be able to create them.

Other thinfgs that I dont belive are stories about beasts, vampires, zombies, witches, dragons, wizards. There is no possible explinaiton for these things, its like God and whatnot, I dont believe if there is no possible explination.
There should be a explination for everything...

I believe there was a man named Jesus that died on a cross but I dont believe he was the son of "God". I think in the future we created time machines (impossible) and a guy went back in time with other gizmos from the future and preformed "miracles" and when he went to pray alone he went back to the future to get more supplies.

Another thing how come christians "God" doesn't have a name? I mean the egyptian Gods had them e.g "RAH" etc. The Greek "Gods" had "Zeus" and "Hercules" but christians are just "God"

If you are a believer then thats cool, I have got nothing agaisnt you, aslong as you're personality is great I'll be your friend. I just won't be into "God" and what not.


Tsunokiette

Quote from: ZaMullet on December 15, 2006, 03:07:53 AM
The things, methane, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, all have been found on asteroids floating on deep space. These were formed during the big bang, the big bang, i have no idea. By saying: where did that come from, where did that come from? will eventually lead you to "I dont know" anyway.


Exactly, so you can't say it's impossible for God to exist just because everything needs to have a begining, then turn around and say that the materials for the "big bang" were always there.

PS: @Diablo - For all we know Heaven could be at the edge of the Universe. I'm pretty sure no human has made it that far.
"The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs

They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is I'm the only one, I'm the only one."

Roph

So, if he existed, where did god come from?
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Tsunokiette

Quote from: Silverline on December 15, 2006, 08:57:26 PM
So, if he existed, where did god come from?

That's the point, you CAN'T use that arguement, because you can't answer it regarding the big bang either.
"The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs

They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is I'm the only one, I'm the only one."

&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Many things in the bible are vague!
They did this so that if something comes along to disprove it, they can just say "no, uh, you read that wrong."

When Christianity first started, they did not know about dinosaurs, now they try and act like they knew about the them entire time.

They did not know that there is no heaven in space, so, now they say "It wasn't talking about literally rising, it just meant he was lifted to another place."
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

GilgameshRO

Quote from: Tsunokiette on December 15, 2006, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Silverline on December 15, 2006, 08:57:26 PM
So, if he existed, where did god come from?

That's the point, you CAN'T use that arguement, because you can't answer it regarding the big bang either.

Who said he supports the big bang theory?

Roph

#261
Quote from: Tsunokiette on December 15, 2006, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Silverline on December 15, 2006, 08:57:26 PM
So, if he existed, where did god come from?

That's the point, you CAN'T use that arguement, because you can't answer it regarding the big bang either.

Oh so, "HEY, my explanation can't cover that! let's just ignore that!".

To be honest, the more debating I see on the subject of religion, the more baffled I am at how people can be so gullable.

I don't hold any idea, beleif or theory about how we got here, because I don't care.

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SexualBubblegumX

Quote from: Angelic_Diablo on December 15, 2006, 07:44:09 AM

Another thing how come christians "God" doesn't have a name? I mean the egyptian Gods had them e.g "RAH" etc. The Greek "Gods" had "Zeus" and "Hercules" but christians are just "God"

He does have a name, it's Jehova or Yahweh depending on what texts you read. Also I find the fact people need to be taught this from a PAGAN shows what an utter failure Chritsanity is.

Knownot

Im like silverline, I hold no belief.
I dont care, I only wonder.

Quote from: Tsunokiette on December 15, 2006, 08:49:15 PM
PS: @Diablo - For all we know Heaven could be at the edge of the Universe. I'm pretty sure no human has made it that far.

Then perhaps Jesus is still "rising" for the edge of the universe is so big!
Or about my theory that it is somebody from the future maybe he lifted off in a rocket of some sort and when got high enough returned to the future.

Djangonator

#264
From Jesus Hitler:

Quote from: Angelic_DiabloIt made not believe because there are those people who sit around and chant and praise another god, us christians get told that this is bad and all that stuff BUT watching at this camp its excatly what we do just for our god. We sit around and pray for something that isnt there, it cannot be felt, it cannot be seen.

The reason Christians are told it is wrong is because they believe that those other gods are false gods. Were you not paying attention or something?

QuoteAnother thing, They say Jesus rose, right? by rising they mean levitated upwards???
If so where did he go? because us humans have "risen" you could say, in aeroplanes and found nothing of a heaven in the clouds, we have sent cameras to outer space and found nothing of heaven in other planets.

I am almost completely certain that early Christians did not believe that Heaven was literally in the sky.

QuoteIf christians are'nt alowed to drink, persay, then why was Jesus an alcoholic lol, not really, but int he bible he turned 4 one gallon drums of water to wine which calculates to about 700 bottles of wine? Now tell me that is not silly.

Since when are Christians not allowed to drink? Stop applying the beliefs of a tiny minority (teetotalers) to everyone.

QuoteIf there is a heaven then why, if you bring somebody back from the dead, nobody remembers it.

There are many people who report going to a mystical realm while technically dead. However, these people are not "brought back to life", merely revived.

QuoteWhat makes us? how did brains, hearts, bones and all other organs get put together miraculously. Im so freaking confused. I mean we havent been able to create humans yet? So how can somebody from over 5 million years ago be able to create them.

1) It's called evolution.
2) We've been creating humans since, well, there were humans.
3) God is supposed to have created the universe 6ooo years ago, not five million. Did you pull that number out of your ass or what?

QuoteOther thinfgs that I dont belive are stories about beasts, vampires, zombies, witches, dragons, wizards.

Are you shitting me?

QuoteThere is no possible explinaiton for these things, its like God and whatnot, I dont believe if there is no possible explination.
There should be a explination for everything...

You're acting just like Christians who reject evolution by saying "I don't understand it, so it must be crap!"

QuoteI believe there was a man named Jesus that died on a cross
but I dont believe he was the son of "God".

Why? There's like two slim pieces of proof that Jesus was real and one of them might be fake. And why did you put "God" in quotes?

QuoteI think in the future we created time machines (impossible) and a guy went back in time with other gizmos from the future and preformed "miracles" and when he went to pray alone he went back to the future to get more supplies.

That's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read and for a man who is screaming about how ridiculous Christianity is you've come up with a theory even sillier.

QuoteAnother thing how come christians "God" doesn't have a name? I mean the egyptian Gods had them e.g "RAH" etc. The Greek "Gods" had "Zeus" and "Hercules" but christians are just "God"

You are fucking retarded.

EDIT: By the way, if you're going to criticize Christians for using a generic name then you should do the same for Muslims, since "Allah" has the same meaning in Arabic.

Oh, and it's spelled "Ra".

QuoteIf you are a believer then thats cool, I have got nothing agaisnt you, aslong as you're personality is great I'll be your friend. I just won't be into "God" and what not.

Do you not know how to use quotes?
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Tsunokiette

I'm officially dropping out of the debate.

Have fun guys.
"The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs

They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is I'm the only one, I'm the only one."

SexualBubblegumX

See you around tsuno. Actually I'm prolly leaving this debate too, Seriously, I've tried to contribute o the topic and all people seem concered with is that LOS keeps inserting his foot into his mouth.