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Secret of ageing found: Japanese scientists pave way to everlasting life

Started by Link, June 14, 2012, 12:36:20 PM

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http://www.rt.com/news/japan-scientists-stop-ageing-461/


QuoteA group of scientists from Osaka University have found that one of the components of the human complement system is directly responsible for ageing, Russia's ITAR-TASS quotes Japanese media on Saturday. The C1q protein, the researchers say, is to blame for human cells getting old.   
Part of the immune system, the complement system helps or "complements" the body in clearing away germs. The C1q protein was earlier thought to be merely a building block in the system.
Having established the protein's true role, however, the scientists claim they have also learnt to control it, almost completely blocking cells' ageing process. The discovery, they claim, could easily become a key to everlasting life.

So what do you guys think? Would you go for something like this, or would you wait it out, do you even think our governments will allow this to go public?


Dwarra?

There's another group who believe oxygen makes us age, so I don't know friendly black fellow.

Lethrface

It is doubtful this will get legalized due to religious groups interfering with scientific discovery as per usual. 

I would personally consider it possibly but I can't see it being a permanent solution for everlasting life.  I can imagine it would just prolong our life making it seem to be everlasting until our bodies eventually break down from extended use.  That in itself could possibly make for a painful death.
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Link

Quote from: DrSword on June 14, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
There's another group who believe oxygen makes us age, so I don't know friendly black fellow.

I remember reading that, seems everyone has conflicting views, though apparently if they have managed to stall the aging process, while not blocking the immune system it could be an interesting step forward.

Also i'm white ;-;

Quote from: Lethrface on June 14, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
It is doubtful this will get legalized due to religious groups interfering with scientific discovery as per usual. 

I would personally consider it possibly but I can't see it being a permanent solution for everlasting life.  I can imagine it would just prolong our life making it seem to be everlasting until our bodies eventually break down from extended use.  That in itself could possibly make for a painful death.

I would be skeptical too, but more for health issues, i don't like new drugs, i'm an asthmatic and was too worried about an injection that meant i didn't have to take my inhaler morning and night again for 10 years.

Acolyte

 I think I'd rather age than have a manufactured version of AIDS.

Little Psycho

It's like really old people nowadays, they lost all their friends and some even lost their children already!
So give me the "Die and live on in peoples memories!"-option  :-\



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firerain

bullshit. it will just fade into obscurity like tons of the other "breakthroughs".

Holkeye


Jules

Quote from: Firerain on June 14, 2012, 11:49:53 PM
bullshit. it will just fade into obscurity like tons of the other "breakthroughs".
Quote from: Holkeye on June 15, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
I want to die someday.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts

Lethrface

Quote from: Jules on June 15, 2012, 02:05:02 AM
Quote from: Firerain on June 14, 2012, 11:49:53 PM
bullshit. it will just fade into obscurity like tons of the other "breakthroughs".
Quote from: Holkeye on June 15, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
I want to die someday.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts
Pretty much...I'm fairly positive that even if it didn't fade into obscurity, it will be too expensive for the masses anyway.

I just don't think it will lead to everlasting life, though.  We aren't meant to live forever so I'm positive there is a maximum life-span that even this finding will reach.

Quote from: Tezuka on June 14, 2012, 08:02:35 PM
Anything to make lolis legal, eh Japan?

:V

lmao
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Acolyte

Quote from: Holkeye on June 15, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
I want to die someday.

Eternal youth and immortality aren't the same thing. You're still perfectly capable of being hit by a bus, falling off a cliff, being lit on fire, ect.



Dwarra?

No.
She's referring to ectoplasm poisoning, a fairly common (albeit under-reported) cause of death.

Holkeye

Quote from: Miles Edgeworth on June 15, 2012, 05:49:36 AM
Quote from: Holkeye on June 15, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
I want to die someday.

Eternal youth and immortality aren't the same thing. You're still perfectly capable of being hit by a bus, falling off a cliff, being lit on fire, ect.



I want to die of natural causes someday.

Dwarra?


jomarcenter

there is also a problem what if that is also part of it when we try to alter that type of system maybe we die early... and also maybe there will be complication to our bodies when this is going to work... maybe we may even cause some more problems.. there a reason why people born and die everyday you know... i do believed that there another way to live forever than altering the immune system and also it dangerous... because what if that is also control the immune system...

pacdiggity

Quote from: Lethrface on June 14, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
I would personally consider it possibly but I can't see it being a permanent solution for everlasting life.
You phrase this as though morality is a problem. Death is detrimental to the advancement of society, at least in the way it's held together today.
Personally, I don't see the point of immortality. I see inevitable death as something to base our lives on; knowing that at one point I will die gives me motivation to accomplish something in the limited time I have. When you take the death out of life, you take the motivation out of life.
it's like a metaphor or something i don't know

Chaos17

Let's not fool ourself if they discovery avoid your wife or husband or child to die before you, I think anyone will sign "yes".
Also, everyone fear death, it's easy to say to be a part of the cycle but man, i don't think everybody is going to smile when they die.
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I can imagine it would just prolong our life making it seem to be everlasting until our bodies eventually break down from extended use.
I agree with you but not with the part where the body will break down because if you can stop to age when you're twenty or thrity, there is no reason that your body will fall appart by itself. This happen only when you work like a slave and eat like a poor with a meal every 5 days.

Jules

Quote from: Chaos17 on June 15, 2012, 12:14:01 PM
Let's not fool ourself if they discovery avoid your wife or husband or child to die before you, I think anyone will sign "yes".
Quote from: Miles Edgeworth on June 15, 2012, 05:49:36 AM
Eternal youth and immortality aren't the same thing. You're still perfectly capable of being hit by a bus, falling off a cliff, being lit on fire, ect.

You wouldn't be guaranteed that your wife, husband, or child would not die before you.  And I agree with Pacman, knowing this is the only life I have I tend to try and make the most of it.  Now if I had more money I could make a little more of it ;]  xD

jomarcenter

my teacher before make this phrase "if there is no death, there is no life" means that if we bypass death we don't have life... because were leaving life if we became immortal forever...

firerain


Lethrface

Quote from: Pacman on June 15, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Lethrface on June 14, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
I would personally consider it possibly but I can't see it being a permanent solution for everlasting life.
You phrase this as though morality is a problem. Death is detrimental to the advancement of society, at least in the way it's held together today.
Personally, I don't see the point of immortality. I see inevitable death as something to base our lives on; knowing that at one point I will die gives me motivation to accomplish something in the limited time I have. When you take the death out of life, you take the motivation out of life.

How in the hell is that phrased as though its a morality problem?!  lmao  I literally mean it as I don't see it as a solution to everlasting life XD

Quote from: Chaos17 on June 15, 2012, 12:14:01 PMThis happen only when you work like a slave and eat like a poor with a meal every 5 days.

There are many factors that go into play in your body breaking down.  Muscles (and that includes organs) have a shelf-life and though you may stop people from aging or getting old, you have to remember that each of your organs run like a machine and the longer the machine runs, the weaker they become until they eventually quit.  It's not a matter of staying healthy or younger for longer but it might help give you a few more years (or maybe a hundred more for that matter)

I still just don't see this given to the masses, though.
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D&P3

Do you want this to be distributed to the masses?


I say it only be given to life sentenced prisoners.
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Lethrface

Quote from: D&P3 on June 15, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
Do you want this to be distributed to the masses?


I say it only be given to life sentenced prisoners.

I don't care if its distributed to the masses if it works.  I just don't see it being a cheap enough thing to do.  It would probably only go to rich people who want to live longer.
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