Microsoft Courier

[Sophist]

The first question was answered, the second was the one that was not.

[Irock]

The first question was answered, the second was the one that was not.

I have not used every tablet in the world that runs Windows.

Also, I agree with Roph; the stupid restrictions that Apple puts on the App store is absurd.

Like what?

[Sophist]

It's therefore inconclusive to say that tablets don't run windows well because you've only had bad experiences with a few.

[Irock]

Just as inconclusive to say that you dislike raw oysters when you've only eaten them a few times.

[Grafikal]

That's a terrible analogy.

[Irock]

Just as terrible of an analogy as comparing a heart to a pump.

You don't need to use every single multi-touch Windows device in the world to conclude that Windows doesn't go well with multi-touch devices, and you don't have to eat raw oysters from every restaurant in the world to conclude you don't like them. :]

[Sophist]

That is indeed a terrible analogy.

[Holkeye]

Irock, just shut up. You're making it worse. 

[Irock]

Making it worse as Martin Luther King Jr. made African American civil rights worse.

[chewey]

Making it worse as Obama made the United States worse.

[Grafikal]

Making it worse as Obama made the United States worse.

lol

[SirJackRex]

You don't seem to take into account the chance of having eaten a bad or poorly cooked oyster, and you don't seem to acknowledge the fact that you may have just used a poorly made Windows Tablet. I love oysters, but I've had plenty of shitty ones.

Apple has a ton of restrictions on the App Store, and will ban an application at will. Google Voice was banned for who knows what; probably because AT&T didn't like the idea of free calls. A guy got his app taken off the day after he said he disliked the App Store or something to that effect. Apple can remotely delete or disable any data on an iPad at will. Go ahead Irock, give me a reason as to why this is acceptable.

[Irock]

You don't seem to take into account the chance of having eaten a bad or poorly cooked oyster, and you don't seem to acknowledge the fact that you may have just used a poorly made Windows Tablet. I love oysters, but I've had plenty of shitty ones.

Raw oysters are not cooked. I have eaten them dozens of times and they've all tasted somewhat the same. The chances of eating a few bad batches of oysters in a row is terribly rare. By your (and anski's) logic, it's impossible to have an acceptable opinion on any product because your experiences could have just been bad because of several other factors. The same argument could be applied to anything. There's a much greater chance that Windows doesn't work well on any multi-touch device or that oysters don't satisfy your taste.

Me: "I ate dirt twice and concluded that dirt isn't tasty."
You: "YEAH WELL THE DIRT IN THOSE AREAS COULD HAVE BEEN BAD. YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT CONCLUSION."

Me: "I've viewed his artwork many times on my computer and in some museums, but I just don't like it"
You: "YEAH WELL MAYBE YOUR COMPUTER MONITOR ISN'T GOOD OR THE LIGHTING IN THE MUSEUMS WAS BAD"

Give it up. Your argument is bullshit. The issue was not the hardware.

Apple has a ton of restrictions on the App Store, and will ban an application at will. Google Voice was banned for who knows what; probably because AT&T didn't like the idea of free calls. A guy got his app taken off the day after he said he disliked the App Store or something to that effect.

In the submitted Google Voice application, the iPhone user's entire Contacts database was transferred to Google's servers. Apple did not receive assurance from Google that the data would only be used in appropriate ways.

The large majority of application rejections are due to bugs or quality issues, while others are rejected in order to protect user privacy, safeguarding users (mostly children) from inappropriate content, and avoiding applications that degrade the iPhone experience. When applications are rejected, Apple even gives feedback to the developers on how to fix the issue so the problems can be worked out and the application can be resubmitted for approval.

I highly doubt someone got their application removed for saying they don't like the application store.

Apple can remotely delete or disable any data on an iPad at will. Go ahead Irock, give me a reason as to why this is acceptable.

They can? Does that have anything to do with Apple's MobileMe? The features that allows you to locate your lost phone on a map, passcode lock your lost/stolen phone remotely, remotely display a message or play a sound on your lost/stolen phone, and remotely wipe the data on your stolen phone? Those demons, and to think they brought that to the iPad. They might wipe your data if you tell them your iPad has been stolen and that there's confidential information on there that you want erased. Damn them to hell.

[haloOfTheSun]

I think it's kind of sad that Irock seems to genuinely try really hard to make a point, and always either fails completely or just falls short of making sense.

Irock, you might actually be able to make a decent argument someday if you can get past your blind allegiance to Apple.

[chewey]

Irock, I really don't think you are able to judge the quality of multi-touch support on Microsoft products with such limited experience

sorry pal

[SirJackRex]

I love the journal design of this; it kind of reminds me of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I wonder if painting "DON'T PANIC" on it would void the warranty....

Tablets from different vendors are far more variable in quality than oysters. To say the issue is not the hardware is to assume the tablets' problems were not the touch screen, just Windows.
All I said is that they have banned apps at will, nothing about being rejected based on quality. Nine Inch Nails got an update for their app rejected numerous times, on the basis that it didn't contain any content. It was however, a vital patch that fixed a bug that international users experienced.

Also, I don't even see why you continue you deny the possibility of the Courier being good.

[Irock]

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Tablets from different vendors are far more variable in quality than oysters. To say the issue is not the hardware is to assume the tablets' problems were not the touch screen, just Windows.

The touch screens I've used have worked fine. It was not a touch screen or speed problem. The issue is that the Windows operating system is not designed fully with multi-touch in mind. You get a totally richer experience with operating systems like the iPhone OS and hopefully the Courier.

All I said is that they have banned apps at will, nothing about being rejected based on quality.
Nine Inch Nails got an update for their app rejected numerous times, on the basis that it didn't contain any content. It was however, a vital patch that fixed a bug that international users experienced.

From what I have read, the update was rejected because of objectionable content, specifically these lyrics.

Also, I don't even see why you continue you deny the possibility of the Courier being good.

How stupid are you? Have you not read ANY of this thread at all? I've said nothing but positive things about the courier this entire thread. I even applauded Microsoft. The only thing I've said that could be considered negative toward the Courier is that it really isn't for me. You just assume I'm like you and loves everything one company does and hates everything a competing company does. I respect quality products for what they are, not for the brand name.

[spoiler]

If it does what it appears to do well, then this would be pretty neat to have for some things

The thing that impresses me about this device is the OS. It seems to be brilliantly designed to act like a real "journal", and it seems to do it well.

I'd be repulsed by this product if it had a desktop/laptop OS on it. This is the part of Microsoft that gets it. :]

The very fact devices like the iPad and Courier appeal to so many people shows that the designers are doing it right.

[/spoiler]

Illiterate nitwit.

[tSwitch]

lol touchpad devices.

also I don't think lyrics should be grounds for rejection, but that's a totally different discussion.