Gay or Straight?

I have read an interesting article about heterosexual men who are attracted to transsexual women. There are many heterosexual men who buy transsexual porn. It is known that the typical homosexual do not find transsexual women attracted because of their feminine features. Do you think these men are actually homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual? Maybe just curious?
http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Phoenix-Transsexual-Relationships-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Mans-Secret-Love-of-Transsexual-Women-Do-new-trends-predict-a-second-Sexual-Revolution

http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Phoenix-Transsexual-Relationships-Examiner~y2009m8d30-PART-2--Mans-secret-love-of-transsexual-women-Do-new-trends-predict-a-second-rexual-revolution


Discuss!

Hmph. It sounds like a fetish to me.

While reading the articles you posted, I couldn't help but draw parralells to people who also seek out things like BDSM, latex, feet, or any other uncommon sexual practice. I would argue that no second sexual revolution is coming, at least not in the context of the sexRev of the late 60's and early 70's. If anything, this may hinder the acceptance of Transgender people into mainstream society, since they may now be looked at as subsidising "unwholesome" or "dirty" sex for men by the more conservative elements of our society, a viewpoint I personally find appalling and unacceptable.

Coming from the standpoint of a  mostly straight male, I find nothing particularly exciting about sexual contact with a transgender woman. I suppose that should the occasion arise, (I would like to think) I would see the person as female. I would certainly be interested in that person's experience in transitioning.

It should not be overlooked that men seeking porno are generally looking for entertainment, to satisfy sexual fantasy. Similarly, IMO, men seeking transgender porn may be trying to satisfy their own desire for femininity. Either that, or attemping to identify their homosexual urges with a preson who is visually female, assuming they have issues with said homosexual urges. My opinion.

...a straight guy asked me out the other day.

Also, happy National Coming Out Day.

If he asked you out as a relationship basis, like a date, then he is not straight. He is either bi or gay. I'm not going to go into discussion about how there are a ton of other ways to call it this, but either bi or gay. Unless he just wanted to actually hang out and do actual guy stuff.

Meh, I don't really have too much of an opinion on the articles, but I'll agree with M00s that it sounds like a fetish. I think a fetish kind of falls out of a category for straight or gay. I think you can be straight as an arrow but just have a thing for chicks with dicks i suppose. doesn't mean he's gay, just means he likes one thing about it. I don't really have evidence or good reasons for this lol, i'm just kinda speculating.

If he asked you out as a relationship basis, like a date, then he is not straight. He is either bi or gay. I'm not going to go into discussion about how there are a ton of other ways to call it this, but either bi or gay.

No, if I were an "actual guy," and dressed and acted accordingly, he definitely would not have asked me out.
A gay man might have.
Whereas a bisexual man would be attracted either way, if not somewhat confused.

If someone looks like a woman, and acts like a woman, chances are, only people who like women are going to be attracted.
A gay man, whether or not he is aware that the woman has a penis under her skirt, will not be attracted... because he likes men.

Of course, there's also the possibility of a straight man making advances on a woman without even knowing that she's biologically male, in which case, they may be repulsed upon discovering that the woman is not technically a "she," but some open-minded men can learn to accept that.
Ever seen "The Crying Game?"

I think you can be straight as an arrow but just have a thing for chicks with dicks i suppose. doesn't mean he's gay, just means he likes one thing about it.

I think you just contradicted your first point.

You failed to mention you were dressed as a girl. I did not contradict myself.

I think it all depends on one's point of view. First off, all 3 of the transgender people I know (sorry, Dertt, 4) prefer to use the pronoun of the gender they identify with. This means, at least to me, that they ARE that gender. And secondly, if a straight man hits on a TG woman without knowing her transition status, it is because he sees her as a genuine girl- you know, feminine and pretty and shit. Point being, he's hoping that ultimately, there will be sex involved, and it will be with a woman who has a vagina.

If on the other hand, the man KNOWINGLY hits on a TG woman simply because she is TG, that indicates a need for something different to excite him, and that psycological component is a fetish. It is not, however, homosexual unless the man is seeking contact with male genitals in which case the man's desire is a homosexual behavior.

In other words, if you are a man who likes only vag, you are straight. If you are a man who likes only penis, you are gay. If you are a man who likes women who were once men, you have a fetish.

...a straight guy asked me out the other day.

And for what it's worth, I think you look like a genuine girl when you dress that way.

As far as strict reality goes I am a straight man with a penis fetish. I am not attracted to the male body except the male genitals. A gay man would, as some have said here, look for a relationship with a guy because they think men are attractive in general. For me, feminine features are pretty much what I like, except of course the genitalia. As I stated before, I prefer the male genitalia, and the female sex is just "meh" to me. So I'm in a peculiar position regarding this but I wouldn't call myself gay, more like Transgender Admirer.

So you're gay and you like feminine guys rather than masculine guys.  It's still gay.  Sexual preference is about Sex Organs, not body type, body type is personal preference.

A dick in the mouth is still a dick in the mouth, no matter what it's attached to.

So you're gay and you like feminine guys rather than masculine guys.  It's still gay.  Sexual preference is about Sex Organs, not body type, body type is personal preference.

What if the person considers themself the other gender?

So you're gay and you like feminine guys rather than masculine guys.  It's still gay.  Sexual preference is about Sex Organs, not body type, body type is personal preference.

What if the person considers themself the other gender?

it depends on their physical gender, you aren't sexually attracted to someone's personality, you're sexually attracted to their body.

Also it's not about one person, it's about the gender in general.  If you're attracted to the same gender at all and would have sex with that person, then you are at least bisexual, it doesn't matter if nobody else turns you on.

I don't think it's really necessary (or logical) to strictly categorise sexualities. From what this guy describes, he is hardly gay. He's not even bi really, given that he has no or little attraction to actual men except for their penises.

So what is he? Who cares.

I'm with Chewey on this one.


How many [straight] men can say they aren't attracted to Robert Downey Jr., amirite? :3

lol, well, I would say the use of the word 'attraction' is different here. I'm attracted to his personality via things I may have read, have been told or have seen, but I am not physically attracted to any man. ever. I can only say that I can have a strong liking to a man via certain traits they have, but it's not like I find a dude's ass attractive, or any physical feature for that matter. If I judge a man's physical attractiveness, I always base it off of what I think a woman would look for, but I'm usually wrong anyways lol.

Hahah, yes, you are totally correct.

A dick in the mouth is still a dick in the mouth, no matter what it's attached to.

A dick in the mouth is still a dick in the mouth, no matter what it's attached to.

That doesn't say much of anything, but okay.

Nature or nurture?

There are arguments that (homo)sexuality comes from our genetic makeup. Personally I don't think it's that simple. If you ask me there's a long and gradual chemical process taking place throughout our younger development, and continuing into our adulthood, which has an effect on the kinds of things we are attracted to. I think this chemical stuff going on might be vaguely affected by our genetics, but on the whole it's a bigger process than that. I think it also has to do with our experiences growing up and such.

I do think there is a connection between (homo)sexuality and TG issues. They are seperate issues, to be sure, but there is a connection. A high percentage of gay men choose to act in a quite feminine manner. You could perhaps attribute that to the influences from gay community at large... perhaps it stems from the gay community being in the minority and hence feeling the need to stick out, the need for a 'gay identifier' which lets other gay men know the score.

Complicated issues here.

In any case, I think that willys look better than vajayjays. But I love pussy.

It is not a complicated issue. If you like dick, you are gay. If you like pussy, you are straight. If you like both, you are bi. That's it. People try to complicate it with these stupid labels like "pansexual" and other shit, but those are the three choices. Stop complicating something that is simple.

/agree

It is not a complicated issue. If you like dick, you are gay. If you like pussy, you are straight. If you like both, you are bi. That's it. People try to complicate it with these stupid labels like "pansexual" and other shit, but those are the three choices. Stop complicating something that is simple.

You missed the point. It's not simple. This guy likes penis but not guys. How is he gay at all? How is that even bi? What the fuck sexuality isn't simple you retards !_!

The point was you don't need to (nor SHOULD you) categorise it (including categories such as straight, gay, bi). It's not like I was advocating more labels like pansexual or whatever.

It is not a complicated issue. If you like dick, you are gay. If you like pussy, you are straight. If you like both, you are bi. That's it. People try to complicate it with these stupid labels like "pansexual" and other shit, but those are the three choices. Stop complicating something that is simple.

You missed the point. It's not simple. This guy likes penus but not guys. How is he gay at all? How is that even bi? What the fuck sexuality isn't simple you retards !_!

The point was you don't need to (nor SHOULD you) categorise it (including categories such as straight, gay, bi). It's not like I was advocating more labels like pansexual or whatever.

man likes penus = gay.

Chewey, explain how a man liking penis is not gay.

Because he doesn't like dudes.

Explain why you're all so retarded !_!