Bible believers or Supernatural believers

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[/quote]I'm sorry, you'd know this how? I feel that's the very core of religion is believing and backing a certain ideal with all thought and will.  The fact that many religions also teach this way of thought is what makes them so dangerous.
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isnt it only dangerous if the person reads into it too much, like go on a religios killing spree

[landofshadows]

The Bible is based around the supernatural...

Spirits the after life, Angles, Walking on water, Rising from the dead... Etc...

It's like a oldy style episode of Buffy... And equally as crap.

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So basicly your saying if people merged all the fantasy shows we would have the equal of  bible?

[Deliciously_Saucy]

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Dangerous can have more meanings apart from physical destruction, religion is harmful in many ways, and because children are the results of upbringing and their surroundings, they don't truly have a choice in what they believe, so it's quite incorrect to indoctrinate them with ANY religion.

[landofshadows]

I agree with DS...

I don't like religion being forced onto people...

I think this topic is one and the same if you follow the bible you have to also follow the supernatural.

Jesus rising from the dead = Zombie
Woman giving birth as a Virgin = Alien Abduction
Drinking Wine as Jesus Blood = Vampire wanna be
Man walks on Water = Levitation

Need I go on ?

[Ravenshade]

Heh, I'm just thinking how much one represents the other. Even though they purged thousands of witches in the name of god, they were no more than witches themselves. (Praying or incantations...hmmm...same thing in my eyes)

[landofshadows]

Pretty much...LOL

The Bible for some reason has drawn so many, if you break down each story in the Bible and then equate them to modern times...

What if Some one could turn water into whine today ?

They would be seen as an illusionist, not the son of God

What if some one today died and then came bak to life ?

It happens pretty often this day and age

What if some one claimed to be the son of God ?

There are loads of them in Nut Houses world over

Now what if there was some one that had all of the above ?

We would brand them a Mutant and they would be tested on in labs and never seen again

And all of the above shows why the Bible is a Fiction Novel (Some people that are represented within may not be fictional, but the events are)...

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What if some one today died and then came bak to life ?

It happens pretty often this day and age

I thought ressurections were considered an abomination of God... wasn't Jesus ressurected? Actually I have a logical idea... he might not have been dead when they burried him. The human body is ressiliant. You can look dead... and not be dead.

Or an even better idea, there are blow fish poisons that make you seem like you're dead for days. Whomever threw the spear into the side of Jesus could have been tipped with something like that poison.

I brought that idea up to my girlfriend... yeah she yelled at me and said that idea is crazy, there were no poisonous blow fish around. Yep that's it... so a man just walked out of death for no reason other than he is the son of a God that no one has ever seen or met.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

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Yeah, either that, or he didn't exist ?_?

Why come up with crazy wild theories when the simpler explanation is that it's all fanaticism?

[cobragamer]

If you look at something wierd you could say it was from some random occurance or from something or someone with alot of power.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

If you look at something wierd you could say it was from some random occurance or from something or someone with alot of power.

QFT! You are a god at debating cobragamer.

[Elegy]

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Dangerous can have more meanings apart from physical destruction, religion is harmful in many ways, and because children are the results of upbringing and their surroundings, they don't truly have a choice in what they believe, so it's quite incorrect to indoctrinate them with ANY religion.

Does this include your personal creed or are you just generally biased against everything that you personally don't believe in?

The only dangerous creed to peoples physical and mental health is the one that you follow.

Christianity preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Hinduism preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Islam preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Buddhism preaches docility, compassion and acceptance
Taoism preaches acceptance of everyones personal choice, equality and peace
Shinto preaches respect towards every living thing and tranquility of the mind
Rastafari preaches love between people and peace
Judaism preaches love towards life, peace, acceptance and compassion

Evolution and other forms of atheism preaches that there is no right or wrong, morals are ficticious and as long as you don't get caught, you might as well kill as many people as possible, if they die the didn't deserve to survive anyway because they were weak..

You have to weed out the inferior beings, just like what Hitler believed in.


Even a 4 year old child can see which is the stupid choice here.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

Even a 4 year old child can see which is the stupid choice here.

Yes, believing anything that comes out of that mouth of yours~

No need to respond to that properly, that was pathetic! I'm not here to recycle my already stated opinions, or amuse you. If you would like me to debate you, try posting before you slit those wrist of yours! That excess blood loss has seemingly made you quite more stupid Elle =)

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  thats harsh lol 

also elegy Christianity,Hindu ect. may all want the same peace love of others, yet they still think anybody who believes in something else a sin, that is why i don't follow religion. 

[landofshadows]

Christianity preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Hinduism preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Islam preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Buddhism preaches docility, compassion and acceptance
Taoism preaches acceptance of everyones personal choice, equality and peace
Shinto preaches respect towards every living thing and tranquility of the mind
Rastafari preaches love between people and peace
Judaism preaches love towards life, peace, acceptance and compassion

Evolution and other forms of atheism preaches that there is no right or wrong, morals are ficticious and as long as you don't get caught, you might as well kill as many people as possible, if they die the didn't deserve to survive anyway because they were weak..

All these ideal's have all started wars... All suck about the same as each other... But all hold a little truth in each, every lie does...

[Elegy]

I'm not here to recycle my already stated opinions, or amuse you.

I seriously disagree.


Buddhism, Shinto, Taoism, Rastafari and Hinduism, name one war started in the name of any one of these.

[Frohman]

Perhaps this should stay as an intelligent debate? Everyone is allowed to believe what they want, but you shouldn't insult their beliefs or other people here.

[landofshadows]

Buddhism, Shinto, Taoism, Rastafari and Hinduism, name one war started in the name of any one of these.

OK blood shed in the name of religion... Like the Buddist who set fire to him-self for example...

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hmm im starting to see a pattern in elegys posts, it seems more to be about making the debate hard to continue by asking sometimes good
others just plain stupid questions.... im not sure what hes asking now

[Roph]

Elegy has been re-banned from the Intelligent Debate forum.

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praise silverline, praise him all of you 

[haloOfTheSun]

Christianity preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Hinduism preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Islam preaches love towards all life, peace and compassion
Buddhism preaches docility, compassion and acceptance
Taoism preaches acceptance of everyones personal choice, equality and peace
Shinto preaches respect towards every living thing and tranquility of the mind
Rastafari preaches love between people and peace
Judaism preaches love towards life, peace, acceptance and compassion

Evolution and other forms of atheism preaches that there is no right or wrong, morals are ficticious and as long as you don't get caught, you might as well kill as many people as possible, if they die the didn't deserve to survive anyway because they were weak..

All these ideal's have all started wars... All suck about the same as each other... But all hold a little truth in each, every lie does...

I've never heard of anyone starting a war in the name of evolution. On the other hand, the Christians are very guilty in that aspect. Such hypocrisy!

[landofshadows]

Well there was once this bloke called Hitler... and he thaught the German's (White skinned people) are the most evolved and higher race... So in a sense Elegy had a good point there.

Ideal's and faith has caused many to do odd things...

Life to me  what it says on the tin... you live, have kids, you die... an may be your energy gets recycled... To me death and the after life is  grey area, I am open to ALMOST any thing, other than a collection of bed timestories sliced into a book...

[Deliciously_Saucy]

He had a good point in regards to Hitler..?

1) I doubt Hitler read the Origin of Species and then went on his 'cleansing' rampage.
2) He referring to his people being the higher race is directly killing in the name of evolution how?
3) Manipulating what evolution says as (one of) the ways to get people to kill, and killing in it's name are two different things. Completely abusing what something has to say to do bad deeds is not on the head of that thing.

It's like saying a person who murders and happens to be an Atheist is killing in the name of Atheism, not the same. That the Hitler statement is weak.

Saying people kill in the name of evolution is similar to claiming people kill in the name of a mathematical equation! Evolution is a science, it is not a creed or something one can kill for.

[landofshadows]

Hitler felt his people are the master race... The Aryan race... Aryanism as a Religion...

According to the adherents to Ariosophy, the Aryan was a "master race" that built a civilization that dominated the world from Atlantis about ten thousand years ago.

But I guess it's not a war sparked by the THEORY of Evoultion... So your correct DS... But working on the basis of Aryanism as a religion I suposse I am right that Religion is good for starting wars...

But I still see Elegy's line of thaught, and it was interesting until I read yours... I mean your correct 100% DS I am not going to arguee on common sense...LOL

BACK ON TOPIC

The Bible in my eye's is a book based on the supernatural... I mean Jesus was no natural man, and that's documented and for some reason accepted... And for some reason the only logical explination of Jesus and his Supernatral Feets is he was the son of GOD... But God is a devine Spirit... And Spirit's and Holy ghosts are Supernatural...LOL