RPG Maker XP. What are it's pros and cons over 2K3?

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 08:53:47 AM

The Subject says it all.

Lavata · April 07, 2007, 10:29:39 AM

Not much, really. The biggest difference is the use of the Scripting System and how it is much more flexible and easier to use than events/eventing everything . Also, there is the difference in the graphics: RPG Maker XP's graphics are much more smoother. However, RPG Maker 2003 holdds onto the graphics of the old days of RPGs.

I don't know of many Pros or cons, it all depends on what you like I guess.

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 10:44:16 AM

Scripting system? What does that mean? When I tried it out, it had the same simple interface as RM2K and 2K3.

Lavata · April 07, 2007, 11:06:58 AM

Inserting Scripts and such, which is why we have a Scripts Subfourm here. RPG Maker 2003 does not have that feature and thus CMS's (Custom Menu Systems) and CBS's (Custom Battle Systems) have to be made all through events. However, I've seen tons more great battle systems and Menus come from 2003 than I have from XP as of yet.

Deliciously_Saucy · April 07, 2007, 11:07:35 AM

Scripting: Basically it allows you to write in new commands for the program (if you know how to script), you can edit and add things that would be impossible to do in 2k3.

One of the cons, is that XP doesn't have a soul, unlike 2k3 and it has a heart as black as coal.

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 11:50:07 AM

Not sure I get that last part. Anyway, is there a tutorial here that teaches you how to make scripts?

Lavata · April 07, 2007, 11:54:11 AM

"Making Scripts" is not as easy a it sounds. You first have to learn the scripting language (I forget what kind you use for XP..I think it's Ruby or something) and then other things as well. But I'm not a person who knows much about this, seeing as I use 2K3 myself. If you need to know about Scripts and such ask Blizzard.

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 12:17:31 PM

Blizzard eh? OK. Thanks Lavata.

Mushroom Panda · April 07, 2007, 02:30:47 PM

It uses a cut-down version of Ruby, called RGSS, which is short for Ruby Game Scripting System. You say it's not easy? If you know another language, it is.

I use 2k3 because the graphics own, and XP has useless features, and also 2k3 has some features that XP doesn't have.

Lavata · April 07, 2007, 02:31:50 PM

Ah, finally! Another 2K3 user!

I was thinking that it was called something along those lines. However..I could not remember.

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 10:29:05 PM

I use 2K3. I prefer it over the others.

Knownot · April 07, 2007, 10:44:01 PM

I have both but use Xp more.
I only use XP because I had it first and I don't have the time these days to learn 2k3.

RedKnight · April 07, 2007, 10:47:02 PM

I just tried XP. It's terrible. It lacks some of the auto events that 2K and 2K3 have, and...well, I just don't like it. 2K and 2K3 all the way.

Knownot · April 07, 2007, 10:54:29 PM

Auto events? Waht?

Falcon · April 07, 2007, 11:09:58 PM

Quote from: pythonusr on April 07, 2007, 02:30:47 PM
It uses a cut-down version of Ruby, called RGSS, which is short for Ruby Game Scripting System. You say it's not easy? If you know another language, it is.

I use 2k3 because the graphics own, and XP has useless features, and also 2k3 has some features that XP doesn't have.

All features from 2k3 can be put in to XP by the use of scripts.

RPG maker XP is best if you don't want 2k3s battle system and such. If you can script, the choice is obvious. Also, RMXP can have commerical games, I don't believe 2k3 can legally release games.

Lavata · April 07, 2007, 11:19:50 PM

However RPG Maker XP is a tad limited in the graphics department over 2003, which has an almost endless library of graphics from all sorts of SNES and NES games. Some may also find RPG maker 2003's/2000s graphics superior to Xp's (this being those who like the old RPGs, like myself.)

The Legend Of The Philosophers Stone is a great RPG maker 2003 game and has custom CBS's and CMSs which outclass any RPG Maker XP game I have currently played.

Falcon · April 08, 2007, 12:19:47 AM

If you really want to, it's not that hard to switch graphics, I'm pretty sure I saw a tileset converter from 2k3 to XP.

Could you post a link to the stone game, it sounds interesting.

modern algebra · April 08, 2007, 12:24:53 AM

This is the link. It's quite fun so far, I have to say, though I have not gotten very far. Story so far is kind of cliche, but I've never minded cliches as long as the systems are interesting, and so far they are.

http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=58933.0

Lavata · April 08, 2007, 12:42:01 AM

It's an awsome game in my opinion. One of the very best for any RPG Maker. The plot may be a tad on the cliche side, but it's pulled off failry well and the characters actually have life. The maps are also ful of life and have much detail, yet are not filled with useless crap.

If you have dedication and you know how, you can make one hell of a custom game.