Westboro Baptist Church (Gay Hate Banner welding Nutters)

Yes silverline, because I spam the most in these forums, it's fine that you have a personal vendetta against me, but don't think I'm grateful that you "spared" my post.

Yes silverline, because I spam the most in these forums, it's fine that you have a personal vendetta against me, but don't think I'm grateful that you "spared" my post.

Are you even serious? For the longest time I was mutual on you whilst everyone else seemed to dislike or even hate you. I'd have done the same if anybody had posted that.

If anything Elegy, we're more tolerant of you then other people. If any one else had made that comment about "women being whores" I would have deleted it instantly, but I didn't. I assure you that can change if you like, stop being such an ass.

So it just because I've offended you that my opinion is considered spam then?

Twisting my words saucy, reality isn't politically correct.
Any consequences suffered from acting in a certain manner is directly to blame on that individual.

Elegy

Saying as you did on Women is kind of correct, when you look at how many Christian Weddings last, and how many end in divorse due to one of the people having an affair... The number ratio is steadly getting higher that it's the woman that cheats on the male, or at least gets caught or owns up to it...

For some reason the Christian Vaules of Marriage are not as strong as those in other faith's... And they could be in part the woman have equal rights, infact they get more rights, they get the children 9 times out of 10, the house and pretty much every thing else... It's too easy for a Christian home to be pulled apart.

In Japan the Woman have respect, but they give it in spades to their husbands, the divorse figures are much lower in the Eastern world, and respect has a higher value...

The Bible is Pervus and the western world is slowly going to pot... Most of our nations thanks to equallity and freedom have now become a breeding ground for adultry and scum to frive in... There are too many state hand outs and people know there is always a safety net...

It's only going to get worse...

I think we should slowly turn our backs on religion, as it's changing too much, it has no weight...

Back on topic

The Westboro Baptist Church also has it all extreamly wrong, rather than giving up the bible they are trying to re-write it in their own way...

I am not calling Gay people Fags... I am using their terminology, as the thread started off as a Rant about them...

"Fag" is a slur against a minority (as well as a British colloquialism for cigarette, but, we aren't talking about Brits) and using fags in the title would be like a news article with "niggers being targeted by hate groups" as a title.

And not many people know them as the Westboro Baptist Church, but if I say the Fag hater with refference to the church pretty much any one who watches the news will know who I mean.

Actually, pretty much anyone familiar with Westboro will probably know them by that name. Someone who uses the phrase "fag hater" doesn't do anything but show that they are, at best, backwards. Do you call Hezbollah "Kike haters"?

Saladin if your not joining in with the debate, please go do some thing different... But just for you I have made the title a little more descriptive for you... and changed the word Fag to Gay.

I'm just wondering how someone who thinks it's okay to call gays fags can expect to be taken seriously when discussing Westboro Baptist Church or any other group which opposes homosexuality.

"Fag" is a slur against a minority (as well as a British colloquialism for cigarette, but, we arern't talking about Brits) and using fags in the title would be like a newscaster referring to blacks as "niggers" because the Klansman in the report called them that, too.

This isn't a news report.

Actually, pretty much anyone familiar with Westboro will probably know them by that name. Someone who uses the phrase "fag hater" doesn't do anything but show that they are, at best, backwards. Do you call Hezbollah "Kike haters"?

I'm just wondering how someone who thinks it's okay to call gays fags can expect to be taken seriously when discussing Westboro Baptist Church or any other group which opposes homosexuality.

That's your opinion. I am not prejudiced against homosexuals, but I still call people fags. The world doesn't always follow the rules to the letter. You'd do well to learn that.

"Fag" is a slur against a minority (as well as a British colloquialism for cigarette, but, we arern't talking about Brits) and using fags in the title would be like a newscaster referring to blacks as "niggers" because the Klansman in the report called them that, too.

This isn't a news report.

Actually, pretty much anyone familiar with Westboro will probably know them by that name. Someone who uses the phrase "fag hater" doesn't do anything but show that they are, at best, backwards. Do you call Hezbollah "Kike haters"?

I'm just wondering how someone who thinks it's okay to call gays fags can expect to be taken seriously when discussing Westboro Baptist Church or any other group which opposes homosexuality.

That's your opinion. I am not prejudiced against homosexuals, but I still call people fags. The world doesn't always follow the rules to the letter. You'd do well to learn that.

I call people fags, too, but I don't do it in a serious setting because I know it's not appropriate. "Fag" is a slur, just like kike, spic, and nigger. Do you think it's okay to use these words in, say, a school project?

"George Washington Carver was a famous nigger scientist..."

This isn't a school project. Its a forum.

This isn't a school project. Its a forum.

People are supposed to be serious in here, right? They are expected to be taken seriously? How can they be when they think that "fag" is an acceptable substitute for "gay" in a setting such as this?

Holkeye, he was giving an example. Saladin, LOS was using the term as the fag haters use the term...

Both of you - the title changed. Simple as that!

These Westboro Baptist Church people need bullets lodged into their brains. That's going too extreme I know... but they should spread their 'word' in a positive way. Not picketing at 'dead fag soldier' funerals.

Nobody has to be that serious, just not an idiot. Also, you are getting away from the topic at hand. If you don't like it, don't post, but it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. Ataraxy, I can speak and learn for myself. You have got to stop doing that, its really annoying.

The good thing is that I can speak for both of you! Shut up and get back to topic. Also, having "Fag" in the title as a descriptive word is going to wield negative results, but that was fixed.

No more posts about the fucking topic name.

What are you, some type of mod-type person or something? The conversation, as it was, was not about the title only. It was about the use of the word "fag". I think if instead of having an itchy posting finger, you would've read back a little farther and seen that for yourself.

Why did I bother to try and change the topic back to what it's meant to be? You're always correcting me Holk, I didn't think you'd mind if I tried to correct you...

You have got to stop doing that, its really annoying.

I never speak for you. I was just trying to get the topic back on track.

What are you, some type of mod-type person or something? The conversation, as it was, was not about the title only. It was about the use of the word "fag". I think if instead of having an itchy posting finger, you would've read back a little farther and seen that for yourself.

Oh, and this is a discussion on the usage of the word "fag" in current society..? My bad, going by the topic title I assumed it was about Westboro Baptist Church. I read all of your posts, I view all posts in this section. Don't go into your emo corner because I'm trying to keep a topic clean. If you want to make a topic about your discussion, then feel free.

Notice how many of these debates get locked? It's because people tend to fight in them and there is no alternative but to end them. It's either me telling you to get back on topic and be civil, or the debate gets locked.

Nobody was arguing, just talking. If a debate didn't go out on similar tangents, following a flow, it would get stale. I think a debate on an organization that uses the word "fag" so liberally warrants the discussion. Now that you have both felt the need to break the flow, the post turns into this. I figured that DS would know this already, considering she has done it before. You'll also see that I noted the fact that the convo was straying from the topic. Ruling with a heavy hand isn't always the best solution. Some people in here are smart enough to handle themselves without a babysitter. Lock the topic if you will, but its pretty ridiculous to do so.

It's expected that a topic (especially a debate) is going to go through several sub-topics. In this case it seems ok, but if you really wanted to, you could just split the posts to a new fag topic.

Either way I think locking the topic is unnecessary, it hasn't spun out of control like the others, and most of the others were locked because morons like Elegy were just making up crap to make people angry, and the debate wasn't going anywhere. This topic is doing ok.

Saladin

Actually, pretty much anyone familiar with Westboro will probably know them by that name. Someone who uses the phrase "fag hater" doesn't do anything but show that they are, at best, backwards. Do you call Hezbollah "Kike haters"?

I have explained why I names the title as I did...Their own WEB address procreates their hate and uses term "fags"... And as you know us Britt's don't use the term Fags all too often so I don't see it as offencive as you would... But any way I have changed it...(Gay Hate Banner welding Nutters) suites it better I think 

Back on Topic

I have had no reply from them as yet, and I doubt I will at this stage...

They have however started listing the places they will start picketting:-

Walker United Methodist Church 101 S. Ely St. This is for the funeral of Army Reserve Spc. Matthew T. Wiley. He was killed in a truck accident, immediately dispatched into Hell, for signing on for the wrong cause, to fight for a nation of perverts who has gone the way of Sodom and Gomorrah and has done WORSE: Mt 11:23- And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day (Those Sodomites would have REPENTED if they had seen the works of Christ) 24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee (This nation!).

Has any one on here had any direct contact with the Westboro Baptist Church ?