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marijuana should be Lagalized

Started by Woompa, January 21, 2007, 05:40:33 PM

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Marijuana should it be Legalized?

Yes, and other drugs also
6 (15%)
Yes
12 (30%)
Yes, but only for medical use
8 (20%)
No
14 (35%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Malson

You can think all you want, but nothing's going to change if cigarettes do become illegal. Remember prohibition?

Djangonator

#26
Quote from: Zypher on January 21, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 06:50:09 PM
1. You take the drug.
2. The drug takes the drug.
3. The drug takes you.

Uh, what?

Yeah, wtf guy? Are you just trying to show that a transition can occur to where the drugs are controlling you, rather than you controlling the drugs? Look, not everyone takes drugs because of social pressure. You're right- you do not HAVE to take drugs. Just like you don't HAVE to take them, you do not have to NOT take them. It's a personal choice.

anyway, this is not a topic about why or why not you shouldn't do drugs. It's a thread about if marijuana ought to be legalized or not. I personally think that it should.

Here, even the DEA is saying that some chemicals in marijuana can be used beneficially in medicine (all other "information" about it is rather negative, though- I mean, it IS the DEA). I don't see it as any worse than alcohol. In my opinion, alcohol is worse, since it damages your liver, brain, can make you sick, can send you into a coma; shit, in the history of time, marijuana has never done any of those things. Also, I've never heard of a Marijuana Anonymous meeting, but I'm sure if there is one, they smoke pot rather than discourage the use of it.

What is wrong with doing it at all? Or any drugs for that matter? What I am doing to MY body shouldn't be a problem with anybody else as long as I am not adversely affecting THEIR lives. As long as I am not infringing upon anyone else's rights, what should it matter if I want to light up a joint? There are regulations on alcohol- why not just put them on marijuana, as well? Also, some benefits of legalizing it- it would reduce the need for a black market and would therefore reduce crime, it would mean less money is wasted on sending marijuana users to jail, the government could, you know, tax it and make a profit for themselves, and hey- legal marijuana!

EDIT:
Quote from: Zypher on January 21, 2007, 08:04:28 PM
You can think all you want, but nothing's going to change if cigarettes do become illegal. Remember prohibition?

Yeah, prohibition caused more problems, not less.

Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 08:02:49 PM
Social pressure is also:

"But everybody does it... I should do it..."

It's wrong to think like that. If everybody jumps of a cliff, you have to do it as well?!

Who is saying that you have to? it is still a personal choice. And isn't it the same with drinking?
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Blizzard

Yes, it is. Same thing with drinking and smoking.

True, you can do with your body whatever you want.

BUT!

If you are in the 3rd phase, you will start selling your stuff only to get drugs. After you don't have anything left and all your money is gone, you will start stealing. And that IS of other's concern. Also, I don't remember it is legal to slowly kill yourself.
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Malson

Django pretty much stated my opinion better than I could have.

Woompa

If people can do sports, play vidoe games, drink, watch tv to have fun then i belive that we could smoke weed to have fun. Smoking weed is just an other way of having fun


You can only get 100% of video games when your STONED

Djangonator

Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 08:15:04 PM
Yes, it is. Same thing with drinking and smoking.

True, you can do with your body whatever you want.

BUT!

If you are in the 3rd phase, you will start selling your stuff only to get drugs. After you don't have anything left and all your money is gone, you will start stealing. And that IS of other's concern. Also, I don't remember it is legal to slowly kill yourself.

Who says that you will steal if you are on  the "third phase"? Also, is it ILLEGAL to kill yourself?
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Moss.

ITT: Blizzard thinks he some kind of authority on drug users despite not doing them himself.

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Blizzard

Quote from: Djangonator on January 21, 2007, 08:19:35 PM
Who says that you will steal if you are on  the "third phase"?

You need your drug, you need money to buy it, you don't have money, so you are going to get some. Simple. You don't tell yourself what to do, the drug tells you.

QuoteAlso, is it ILLEGAL to kill yourself?

I've striken the text trough exactly out of this reason. I have no idea. !_!

@arlen: I am sorry that I know the facts and have some experience with that. ::)
I told you already, yes I do drink, but I keep it to that. And I don't drink every day, I drink once a month, since I go out once a month.
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Moss.

And yes, I smoke pot, but I keep it to that. And I don't smoke pot every day, I smoke pot every other week or so, since I only drink every other week or so.

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Djangonator

Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Djangonator on January 21, 2007, 08:19:35 PM
Who says that you will steal if you are on  the "third phase"?

You need your drug, you need money to buy it, you don't have money, so you are going to get some. Simple. You don't tell yourself what to do, the drug tells you.

QuoteAlso, is it ILLEGAL to kill yourself?

I've striken the text trough exactly out of this reason. I have no idea. !_!

@arlen: I am sorry that I know the facts and have some experience with that. ::)
I told you already, yes I do drink, but I keep it to that. And I don't drink every day, I drink once a month, since I go out once a month.

Believe me, not everyone in the "third phase" steals. You never stop telling yourself what to do, whether you are under the influence are not. It's true that you may not be thinking clearly, but it's always YOUR decision.

And what is the difference between going out to drink once a month nd smoking marijuana once a month?
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Moss.

#35
Blizzard's gonna say something like "smoking pot doesn't make you sell your stuff to get more of it THIRD STAGE MAN THIRD STAGE EVERYONE WHO SMOKES POT ONCE WILL END UP SELLING THEIR STUFF THIRD STAGE :rolleyes smiley:"


edit: Sorry. Phase, not stage.

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Woompa

#36
Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 08:15:04 PM
Yes, it is. Same thing with drinking and smoking.

True, you can do with your body whatever you want.

BUT!

If you are in the 3rd phase, you will start selling your stuff only to get drugs. After you don't have anything left and all your money is gone, you will start stealing. And that IS of other's concern. Also, I don't remember it is legal to slowly kill yourself.

What you dont understand blizzard is that there is no phase 3 with pot, its not like other illegal drugs. By the way were I live(quebec) pot cost way less than alcool
-case of 15 beer =25$
-3.5Grams (7Joints)=25$

You need between 10-15 beers to get drunk, you only need 0.5-1Grams to get High.

Pot Head saves much more money than alcoholic.
If some people did lose all their money because of pot it is because the abuse it and have no self control.
You can only get 100% of video games when your STONED

Blizzard

#37
Quote from: arlen on January 21, 2007, 08:26:51 PM
And yes, I smoke pot, but I keep it to that. And I don't smoke pot every day, I smoke pot every other week or so, since I only drink every other week or so.

Fine, your problem.

Quote from: Djangonator on January 21, 2007, 08:28:46 PM
Believe me, not everyone in the "third phase" steals. You never stop telling yourself what to do, whether you are under the influence are not. It's true that you may not be thinking clearly, but it's always YOUR decision.

I don't say it does. Of course it is you who are doing all of this, it's just a metapha. There actually are people who stop taking drugs. It's very very hard, but possible.

QuoteAnd what is the difference between going out to drink once a month nd smoking marijuana once a month?

Just like I said above to arlen.

Quote from: Woompa on January 21, 2007, 08:32:49 PM
What you dont understand blizzard is that there is no phase 3 with pot, its not like other illegal drugs. By the way were I live(quebec) pot cost way less than alcool
-case of 15 beer =25$
-3.5Grams (7Joints)=25$

Of course there is no phase 3 with pot! But pot often (NOT ALWAYS) leads to harder drugs that have phase 3.

QuoteYou need between 10-15 beers to get drunk, you only need 0.5-1Grams to get High.

Pot Head saves much more money than alcoholic

Because pot is harder stuff. What's actually worse for your health? Beer or high-percented alcoholic drink? The second one if I am not wrong, because it's concentrated.
Altough, I know the fact that marihuana isn't as unhealthy for your organs like alcohol, it IS more unhealthy to your brain than alcohol.

Quote from: arlen on January 21, 2007, 08:29:50 PM
Blizzard's gonna say something like "smoking pot doesn't make you sell your stuff to get more of it THIRD STAGE MAN THIRD STAGE EVERYONE WHO SMOKES POT ONCE WILL END UP SELLING THEIR STUFF THIRD STAGE :rolleyes smiley:"

Like I said, pot often (not always) leads to harder drugs. And yeah, it is the third phase. ::) Third phase is just a description for the state of physical and psychic addiction to drug(s).
You forget, I am not an ignorant short-sighted idiot like many people who would say that, because they THINK they are right.
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Djangonator

Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 08:47:16 PM
Because pot is harder stuff. What's actually worse for your health? Beer or high-percented alcoholic drink? The second one if I am not wrong, because it's concentrated.
Altough, I know the fact that marihuana isn't as unhealthy for your organs like alcohol, it IS more unhealthy to your brain than alcohol.

Alcohol can kill you, marijuana can't. Pardon me if I'll call alcohol a harder drug.

Quote
Like I said, pot often (not always) leads to harder drugs. And yeah, it is the third phase. ::) Third phase is just a description for the state of physical and psychic addiction to drug(s).
You forget, I am not an ignorant short-sighted idiot like many people who would say that, because they THINK they are right.


So are you saying that rather than THINKING you are right...you know? Sounds pretty ignorant and short-sighted to me.
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Malson

Hey Blizzard, you ignored my question.

Quote from: Zypher on January 21, 2007, 07:46:16 PM
Besides, why should you care? It's not like any of these people are shoving a joint in your mouth.

Woompa

well I need to log off and log off, I wasted my day infront of the pc.

I don't have time to argue with the 20 year old pokemon god/geek gaylord(blizzard).
By the way Blizzard, if its realy you on that pic your ugly as hell.

I stoped watching pokemon in 2nd grade, your 20 years old and still watch it...LOOSER

I bet 5$ that each night you master bate on HENTAI

Peace out all you other pot heads!
--------------------------------------------------------------

Skull-Shaped Bong: $12.00
3.5grams of weed: $25.00
Watching Teletubbies with Your Buddies: Priceless
You can only get 100% of video games when your STONED

Moss.

#41
Blizzard has to be the most opinionated, preachy son of a bitch I've ever met on the internet.

I mean, he barged into a thread about legalizing marijuana, getting the first reply, and immediately starting up some shit war and completely derailing the topic.

I swear, can't people not do drugs and be indifferent, or even amiable about it? It's like every straight-edge kid needs to prove something, and be as much of a jerk as possible whenever somebody even mentions drugs.



edit: He's like one of those guys on TabIt in a thread about religion, lol, right Zypher?

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Darico

I think your throwing this our of proportion...

Malson



GilgameshRO

Marijuana isn't half as bad as tobacco. Though I've no interest in it I don't really see why it isn't legal. =*

Blizzard

#46
Quote from: Djangonator on January 21, 2007, 08:57:26 PM
So are you saying that rather than THINKING you are right...you know? Sounds pretty ignorant and short-sighted to me.

No, I meant I can admit if I am wrong.

Quote from: Djangonator on January 21, 2007, 08:57:26 PM
Alcohol can kill you, marijuana can't. Pardon me if I'll call alcohol a harder drug.

No need to apologize. As I already said, alcohol is unhealthy for organs (plural), while marihuana is only unhealthy for your brain. I know that it's a harder drug.

Quote from: Zypher on January 21, 2007, 09:01:48 PM
Hey Blizzard, you ignored my question.

Quote from: Zypher on January 21, 2007, 07:46:16 PM
Besides, why should you care? It's not like any of these people are shoving a joint in your mouth.

Sorry, didn't see it the first time.
It's a personal choice, I thought we cleared that up already.

Quote from: Woompa on January 21, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
I don't have time to argue with the 20 year old pokemon god/geek gaylord(blizzard).

Wow, wow. Now we're going over to flaming only because I don't like your holy pot.

Quote from: Woompa on January 21, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
By the way Blizzard, if its realy you on that pic your ugly as hell.

Stop being jealous that I still look better than you.

Quote from: Woompa on January 21, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
I stoped watching pokemon in 2nd grade, your 20 years old and still watch it...LOOSER

I watched it when I was little, so what? Last time I watched it was like 6 years ago. In case you don't know:
I change my custom title/personal text/avatar like every few days. There something about pokemon going on in the other thread and I posted out of fun: "I am the pokemon god who created all of them. OBEY ME, MWUAHAHAH!"

Quote from: Woompa on January 21, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
I bet 5$ that each night you master bate on HENTAI

I don't watch porn nor hentai. Real sex is much more asuming. ;) You'll come to that coonclusion someday... I guess...

Quote from: arlen on January 21, 2007, 09:06:58 PM
Blizzard has to be the most opinionated, preachy son of a bitch I've ever met on the internet.

I mean, he barged into a thread about legalizing marijuana, getting the first reply, and immediately starting up some shit war and completely derailing the topic.

I swear, can't people not do drugs and be indifferent, or even amiable about it? It's like every straight-edge kid needs to prove something, and be as much of a jerk as possible whenever somebody even mentions drugs.

edit: He's like one of those guys on TabIt in a thread about religion, lol, right Zypher?

Didn't I say already, I don't care? I don't want drugs, you take them if you want. I don't care. I have my opinion and that's it. It's not like I am trying to convince anybody "Drugs are bad" or something. Go into the world and make your own experience, then you'll see.

@Gilga:

Yup. Tobacco is worse, I know. I think it should be illegal, but who am I to judge?!
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Malson

Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
It's a personal choice, I thought we cleared that up already.

It may be a personal choice to not take them, but a personal choice to pseudo-intellectually preach about how drugs are bad is extremely dumb. How about you let us have OUR personal choice on whether or not to take these drugs, and not have the law decide for us?

GilgameshRO

It's also a personal choice for people to start flaming eachother but if it continues this topic is going to get locked.

Blizzard

@Zypher: Well, marihuana CAN lead to harder drugs and when you're in phase 3 (yeah, yeah, I know...) you can be a threat to the community. That's why it's illegal, I guess.
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