The RPG Maker Resource Kit

RMRK General => General Chat => Topic started by: Crankeye on December 31, 2009, 10:16:53 AM

Title: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Crankeye on December 31, 2009, 10:16:53 AM
Why?

Because I'm tired of ignorant fucking idiots telling me how Vista sucks when they can't even send an email let alone install a fucking printer.

I tell everyone Windows 7 is amazing, because I'm tired of hearing people bitch about Vista when they know absolutely nothing but what they heard from their "tech guy" who happens to be their idiot fucking neighbor who had issues installing his 12 year ink jet printer that HP stopped supporting 8 years ago.

So when the next person I see asks "Is Windows 7 better than vista?"

Fuck yeah it is. Idiot.

DISCUSS
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: chewey on December 31, 2009, 10:18:51 AM
Vista is fine.

7 is better.

XP is old.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Esmeralda on December 31, 2009, 10:26:21 AM
I've used it since the RC was made available and I'm a happy duck :) Haven't had any problems with it (didn't have any with Vista either. Surprisingly I had a bunch of driver problems on XP). Yeah everyone should upgrade :mad:
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zeriab on December 31, 2009, 11:23:29 AM
I quite agree Windows 7 is awesome ^_^

With the right version there is also Windows XP Mode which is pretty much Windows XP running in a virtual machine for those who can't let it go.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Holkeye on December 31, 2009, 02:00:38 PM
I'm still using XP. I probably will for a while.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: tSwitch on December 31, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: Holk on December 31, 2009, 02:00:38 PM
I'm still using XP. I probably will for a while.

There's no reason to use Windows 7 unless you're buying a brand new computer.  XP is still very good, and there's no reason to change otherwise.

That being said, I had a Vista rig and like Skanker have been using 7 since the RC.  I got a disk from my school and did a clean install to upgrade it to Retail last weekend.  Even with RC Build 7100 I was completely happy with it and have been since.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Gryphon on December 31, 2009, 09:09:31 PM
I had nothing but problems with my comp when I had XP. Vista was sweet but had some CPU issues, it just kept sucking CPU and RAM into nothing. But Win7 has been a very good experience. My computer hardware is around 5 years old. I've only ever upgraded to a dual core 64bit CPU and a new Vid Card. XP choked and 7 just took it with stride.

So yeah, everyone should just get Win7.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: CartoonFan on December 31, 2009, 09:37:24 PM
I'd switch to 7, but that'll cost money.

I mean, Vista is pretty good. I'd want to stay with it if it didn't use a lot of RAM up if they're still calling it that.
Vista is only giving me issues with three games and they still play. I just can't update Rise of Nations or listen to the radio on BF: Vietnam or see the TV screen on Sims 2. But it's not enough to switch operating systems. What IS enough is the fact that XP uses less RAM and that means my games will be able to use more of that RAM for themselves. That's why I want to switch back. So my high-graphics games can work better. However, I might save up and switch forward (or pirate and switch forward) if 7 is good.

What advantages over XP does 7 have? Aside from newer Direct X editions. Does it still use up a lot of RAM like Vista?
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: tSwitch on December 31, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
Quote from: Animefan on December 31, 2009, 09:37:24 PM
I mean, Vista is pretty good. I'd want to stay with it if it didn't use a lot of RAM up if they're still calling it that.

I laughed so hard.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on December 31, 2009, 10:10:49 PM
I'd switch to Windows 7 if it weren't a stupid resource hog like Vista.

XP is the best available to me right now, even though it is garbage.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zylos on December 31, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
I've no reason to switch over when I'm perfectly happy with XP, flawed as it may be to some.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Holkeye on December 31, 2009, 11:50:07 PM
XP isn't garbage. I hate people who think that just because something new came out, then something old is worse than it was before. It's not. 7 might be better, but that fact alone doesn't lessen the usefulness or enjoyment of XP.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: chewey on January 01, 2010, 12:12:51 AM
Quote from: Irock on December 31, 2009, 10:10:49 PM
I'd switch to Windows 7 if it weren't a stupid resource hog like Vista.

XP is the best available to me right now, even though it is garbage.
Windows 7 isn't a resource hog.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: tSwitch on January 01, 2010, 12:14:48 AM
Quote from: Holk on December 31, 2009, 11:50:07 PM
XP isn't garbage. I hate people who think that just because something new came out, then something old is worse than it was before. It's not. 7 might be better, but that fact alone doesn't lessen the usefulness or enjoyment of XP.

Agreed to a point.

If you're going to make a computer with more than 4gb of ram, there's no reason not to use Windows 7, but otherwise it's a toss up.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 01, 2010, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: Holk on December 31, 2009, 11:50:07 PM
XP isn't garbage. I hate people who think that just because something new came out, then something old is worse than it was before. It's not. 7 might be better, but that fact alone doesn't lessen the usefulness or enjoyment of XP.
All versions of Windows is garbage.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: ahref on January 01, 2010, 01:30:31 AM
7! 7! 7!

I got it like 3 weeks early due to the MSDNA thingy my uni runs and yeah it was free.

Gotta email them for a second license for my desktop though.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: strike on January 01, 2010, 02:05:02 AM
Quote from: Irock on January 01, 2010, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: Holk on December 31, 2009, 11:50:07 PM
XP isn't garbage. I hate people who think that just because something new came out, then something old is worse than it was before. It's not. 7 might be better, but that fact alone doesn't lessen the usefulness or enjoyment of XP.
All versions of Windows is garbage.
said irock, while whacking off to a picture of a macbook.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: shaz on January 01, 2010, 10:55:48 PM
I liked XP, I LOVED Vista (yeah, get over it.)  And Win 7 seems pretty nice too.  I loved that I could just upgrade from Vista and not have to reinstall any of my programs.

I have an issue with Win 7 Explorer though.  If I change ONE folder to view as large images, ALL folders view as large images.  So I go to another folder that I want to view as Detail and switch the view to that, and ALL folders now view as detail.  At least in Vista, there seemed to be a way make particular folders display a certain way without affecting everything else (though I never actually figured out what the trigger was, so every now and then they'd all revert).  Searches haven't brought up anything useful yet.  If anyone can tell me how to fix THIS little problem, then I'll absolutely LOVE Win 7 as well :)
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 01, 2010, 11:07:24 PM
Quote from: shaz on January 01, 2010, 10:55:48 PM
I have an issue with Win 7 Explorer though.  If I change ONE folder to view as large images, ALL folders view as large images.  So I go to another folder that I want to view as Detail and switch the view to that, and ALL folders now view as detail. 
This is the best thing Microsoft has ever done. They fixed an annoying issue with Windows, and you're mad about it?
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: shaz on January 01, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
Well, if I'm looking at a folder that contains images, I generally want to see them as images - at least icons and charsets, where I spend the most time.  Tilesets I prefer to view as details.  Everything else, I want to view as details.  I don't care to see what icons MS has decided to attach to a folder or a particular type of file.

IMO, what they've DONE is annoying.  Every time I look at a different folder, I have to change the view mode before I'm comfortable navigating it.  And since this is one of my day jobs, I'm ALWAYS switching between folders.  I don't mind if some people like the way it is now - good for them.  I just wish there was an option for those of us who liked to say "I always want to see THIS window in THIS view mode, regardless of what the others are like".
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 01, 2010, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: shaz on January 01, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
Well, if I'm looking at a folder that contains images, I generally want to see them as images - at least icons and charsets, where I spend the most time.  Tilesets I prefer to view as details.  Everything else, I want to view as details.  I don't care to see what icons MS has decided to attach to a folder or a particular type of file.

IMO, what they've DONE is annoying.  Every time I look at a different folder, I have to change the view mode before I'm comfortable navigating it.  And since this is one of my day jobs, I'm ALWAYS switching between folders.  I don't mind if some people like the way it is now - good for them.  I just wish there was an option for those of us who liked to say "I always want to see THIS window in THIS view mode, regardless of what the others are like".
It's stupid to navigate to folders and have the view mode always be different. It should stay consistent as it is in (I believe) every other operating system. When I change my view mode, it should change for every folder. I'd have to fiddle with the view mode a lot less if everything stayed the same.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: shaz on January 01, 2010, 11:26:58 PM
that's your opinion, which you're entitled to, and which I'm not criticizing.  Don't call me stupid because I don't like the same things you do ;)
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 01, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
I didn't call you stupid, you idiot. I called what you prefer stupid.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: shaz on January 01, 2010, 11:32:16 PM
lol - idiot?  I can only say 'takes one to know one', and that I'm STILL going to view my windows in different modes ;)

did that -rep make you feel better?
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Crankeye on January 01, 2010, 11:49:51 PM
Well disregarding the last few retarded posts and steering this conversation back on track.  You're right, I'm sure Windows XP works great for what everyone does, but for god sakes, don't come in to my fucking store asking me if any of my new products are compatible with XP. 5 years from now I don't want grandpa coming in asking if he can watch blue ray on his 200mhz Pentium 2 with windows 98. No grandpa, you cant watch that shit on your 15inch CRT monitor.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zeriab on January 02, 2010, 12:58:04 AM
Irock stop being such an idiot -_-

It is true that changing the view in a library affects all folders in the library, but its different when browsing the Computer.
It seems to remember the folder settings perfectly fine. They even seem to have removed the option in the Advanced Settings under the View tab in Folder Options which allows you check whether you want individual folder settings remembered or not. (It was present in XP, dunno about Vista)

I haven't really searched to see whether it's present anywhere else or if it has actually been taken out. Even then you should be able to reset the folder settings just fine.

*hugs*
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Kefka on January 08, 2010, 05:36:31 AM
I would love to upgrade to windows 7, once i upgrade ram.

Doesn't Windows 7 require 1gb of ram? The computer i have right now can expand to 2gbs ram. I haven't really looked into Win7 that much anyways since i don't have any serious problems with Vista that motivates me into buying Win7. But i'll wait until i decide to upgrade.

Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 08, 2010, 05:38:24 AM
2 gigs of ram isn't enough. You need 4 gigs of ram and an i7.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zeriab on January 08, 2010, 10:54:58 AM
What, 2 gigs is more than enough unless you get the 64-bit version.
Also Vista used more ram than Windows 7 does for me.
As for the requirements:
Quote from: Requirements1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver

If Vista runs fine for you then it's highly likely that Windows 7 will run fine and probably also better.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zeriab on January 08, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
It'll probably run like garbage, but I disagree that requirements doesn't mean anything. It gives you a feeling of the hardware required.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Link on January 08, 2010, 10:24:22 PM
It would properly run perfect until you have used it for 2 weeks :/

Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Tsunokiette on January 08, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
Personally, I like Windows 7 better than any other version of windows.

The only I don't like is that they took out Windows Movie Maker lol.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Stop talking garbage, Irock.

Windows 7 would run fine on a system like that.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 09, 2010, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Stop talking garbage, Irock.

Windows 7 would run fine on a system like that.
XP doesn't even run fine on a system like that, especially after you've used it for a little while.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 09, 2010, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Stop talking garbage, Irock.

Windows 7 would run fine on a system like that.
XP doesn't even run fine on a system like that, especially after you've used it for a little while.
XP runs fine on a system far weaker than that, Irock. Stop talking garbage.

Computers only get slower after use if you're garbage.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 09, 2010, 06:44:23 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 09, 2010, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Stop talking garbage, Irock.

Windows 7 would run fine on a system like that.
XP doesn't even run fine on a system like that, especially after you've used it for a little while.
XP runs fine on a system far weaker than that, Irock. Stop talking garbage.

Computers only get slower after use if you're garbage.
No, it doesn't. I speak from experience.

Your Windows 7 install is slower now than it was when you first installed it.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: chewey on January 09, 2010, 09:03:41 AM
No it isn't.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Esmeralda on January 09, 2010, 09:11:30 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 09, 2010, 06:44:23 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 09, 2010, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: chewey on January 09, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: Dickbutter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Requirements don't mean anything. It'll run like garbage if you have those specs.
Stop talking garbage, Irock.

Windows 7 would run fine on a system like that.
XP doesn't even run fine on a system like that, especially after you've used it for a little while.
XP runs fine on a system far weaker than that, Irock. Stop talking garbage.

Computers only get slower after use if you're garbage.
No, it doesn't. I speak from experience.

Your Windows 7 install is slower now than it was when you first installed it.

No, it isn't.
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 09, 2010, 09:15:59 AM
Yes it is.

Chewey is just a wintard fanboy,
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Esmeralda on January 09, 2010, 09:32:59 AM
No it isn't.

Irock is just a macfag :mad:
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 09, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
I don't even own a Mac.

How can I be a macfag? >:]
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Esmeralda on January 09, 2010, 09:50:29 AM
You're gay for macs and you'd get one in a heartbeat if you had $6000 to spare :police:
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Irock on January 09, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
I have billions to spare, sweetheart. ;]
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: SirJackRex on January 09, 2010, 10:30:44 AM
I was really contemplating the Student Discounted 7 Home Premium deal, because I'm getting a little bored with XP.
Still might buy it sometime, probably torrent it, but who knows.

Can someone tell me, I'm not reading through 2 pages on posts at 2:30am, why 7 is better than Xp? Really, why? As someone whose only problem with XP have been viruses, why should I upgrade?
Title: Re: Everyone should just upgrade to Windows 7
Post by: Zeriab on January 09, 2010, 11:48:20 AM
I can tell you that my productivity has increased after getting Windows 7 and I don't had any trouble with searching for drivers.
It was the rare feeling of everything just working and working well.

Irock is right, I have had Windows 7 for 4 months or so and startup time has increased with 5 seconds or so. Idle RAM usage has increased with 40 MB. It doesn't feel any slower though. General use doesn't feel more sluggish. Of course this might just be due to it happening gradually.
My opinion so far is that it handles time better than XP, but then again. I have only had it for around 4 months, so that's not so long.

*hugs*