Internet Censorship Bill

[Esmeralda]

With Megaupload taken down just like that it doesn't look like whether or not these bills pass has much of an effect.

[strike]

difference being they had to actually go through the legal process to take down megaupload and they allegedly have emails proving the owners of megaupload were re-upping infringing content via dummy accounts after they were forced to take those things down.

[haloOfTheSun]

Megaupload getting taken down means the laws already in place are enough for them to fight piracy without having to introduce bills that would infringe on our freedoms. So in a way, it's a good thing since it proves how needless SOPA and PIPA really are.

[SirJackRex]

Yep, but through current laws it can take a long time to take down websites. I think the MegaUpload process took over a year or almost? They want it expeditious, with no resistance.

I *think* the only current "quick" alternative for copyright holders is to take it to court and hopefully drain the resources of the defendant dry.

[Irock]

It's kind of like how you can't search someone's property without a warrant and you can't put someone in prison without a trial. Our legal system is there to protect the innocent.

"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

[firerain]

SOPA and PIPA support has pretty much collapsed. Thank god.

[Holkeye]

Not pretty much, they've been downed since yesterday. There's already a new bill, though, written by the same Lamar guy: HR. 1981. Read it, and discuss.

[firerain]

http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-sponsor-has-another-internet-bill-that-records-you-247-20210264/

That one? Expect it to be met with the same resistance and ultimately, failure, again. If it somehow passes or is secretly slipped into another bill and goes unnoticed it's a pretty good example of how corrupt and how shit your government is at the moment.

[Zylos]

Goddammit, another one? Jesus, do these people not take a hint? If SOPA and PIPA and even MegaUpload's removal (which, honestly, did have some legitimate reasoning at least) met with such an enormous negative backlash from the public, what the absolute fuck do they think people are going to think about PCIPA?

"What's this? Having all of my internet history recorded each time I use my credit card? Well that sounds like fun! This will certainly make up for not having my internet censored for me!"

[EvilM00s]

@ the US Government:

[Holkeye]

Lamar Smith and Chris Dodd have to go. Plain and simple.

[Irock]

Why do you people seem surprised?

[Zeriab]

Goddammit, another one? Jesus, do these people not take a hint? If SOPA and PIPA and even MegaUpload's removal (which, honestly, did have some legitimate reasoning at least) met with such an enormous negative backlash from the public, what the absolute fuck do they think people are going to think about PCIPA?

"What's this? Having all of my internet history recorded each time I use my credit card? Well that sounds like fun! This will certainly make up for not having my internet censored for me!"

It's the cybercriminals delight. Just imagine it they got access to that information. Not only do they have your credit card information, they can also match your buying patterns which makes it less likely for their abuse to be caught.
What an excellent idea

[CartoonFan]

"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Hug me, Irock.

I know I'm fixating on this quote out-of-context, but I have to comment on it. Y'see, I always say "The worst crime you can commit is the conviction of an innocent." And people actually disagree with me on that, even though the statement only implies that it's better to let ONE guilty man go for the sake of an innocent. But you say ten? I thought any number above one would be too radical. I thought I was the only one who actually recognized the importance of protecting the innocent over catching the guilty. Thank you. Thank you for restoring some of my faith in humanity.

Now, on topic, anybody else notice how frighteningly close we are to a "Big Brother"-esque reality?

[haloOfTheSun]

You realize that's a quote by William Blackstone, right?

[Irock]

I AM William Blackstone!

[Esmeralda]

Completely slipped under my radar that so many big countries have already signed ACTA. Heard from here and there that Poland will join in on the signing, making the rest of europe a bit anxious. Scandinavian *chan boards are going wild!