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One plus one equals...1.997?

Started by Zylos, January 11, 2008, 09:12:32 PM

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Zylos

Here on RMRK, we've all passed elementary school. We all know that 1+1=2 and 2+2=4. Pretty basic math.

That's what I thought too, until I started an argument with one of my college professors. He believed that one plus one does not equal two. Unfortunately, one can't argue too much with one's college professor without getting into trouble, so I dropped the arguement and let it slide.

Needless to say I thought the guy was insane, but when I later checked up on this, I found that there were numerous other people who also believed that one plus one does not always equal two. Some mathematicians scientifically "proved" that one plus one did not equal two but rather 1.997 (although their "proof" is highly questionable). Others had more plausable reasons, such as where c=speed of light, 1c +1c = 1c (1+1=1), and used examples like 1g + 1kg = 1.001kg, since no variables are defined in the expression 1+1=2. But in all the theories, the point remained the same: one plus one does not always equal two.

So what do you people think? Does one plus one equal two or does it not (and why)?




Irock


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1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 3/3 = 1

.3333... + .3333... + .3333.... = .9999......

Some professors are indeed insane

1 + 1 = 2
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Esmeralda

Quote from: Irock on January 11, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
1+1=2

I think this is the first time I agree with you

Most ordinary people don't need to know too much. So, 1+1=2
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biohazard

1/3 = 0.333
3/3 = 0.999
1 = 0.999
0.999 = 0.998
0.997 = 0.998
0.997 = 0.999
0 = Infinity.

Sophist

See this is impossible because we created the mathematics system and one was made to equal one. I don't take .999 baseballs. Trying to change this is only for those people who want to be scientists but can't do anything to save their lives so they try and be famous by fucking up our mathematics system.

Anyone who believes this needs to go back to school
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Zylos

I asked my professor why he believed that one plus one does not equal two and he said that since no two objects are exactly the same (even in cloning), we cannot add two items together and say we have exactly two items. There is always a margin of error.

For example, everyone here would probably agree that if I have an apple in each hand, I have two apples. But to my professor since the apples are not the same size, I am not truly holding onto two apples but rather approximately two apples +/- some small percent.

Personally, I think it's just BS, but there are a lot of people who (like my professor) truly believe that 1+1 doen't equal 2.




Sophist

Numbers were created and are used to count the whole of an object.

Saying that an object is .999 would be irrelevant because you HAVE to either count it as one whole or count it by it's mathematical dimensions. Saying everything is not one but infact .999 is a total lie.
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Lominisio

My opinion: Your professor is an idiot. Give him a poket calculator for his birthday or whatever the nearest holiday would be.

Irock

An apple is one apple no matter what size it is.

Just because your penis is smaller than the normal size does not mean it's a half of a penis. It's still a whole penis.

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But if half of your penis was cut off, then it'd only be half a penis.

It is however true that there can be different units, and obviously 1 + 1 would be equal to 0 in mod 2. But, for theoretical purposes, 1 + 1 = 2. Obviously in the real world, we do not necessarily quantify things in this way. For instance, if you give two kids an apple each, but one is much smaller than the other, then you have not equally distributed the food you have. Even though you gave each boy exactly one apple, you gave less to one boy. In that case, 1 =/= 1 with regards to the amount of food that was distributed. That is just because we quantify an apple as 1 if it is whole, and we do not use units of size to quantify an apple.


Quote from: Anski on January 12, 2008, 12:31:42 AM
Numbers were created and are used to count the whole of an object.

Saying that an object is .999 would be irrelevant because you HAVE to either count it as one whole or count it by it's mathematical dimensions. Saying everything is not one but infact .999 is a total lie.

.9 repeating is equal to 1. It is nonsense to say that something is 1 but is not .9 repeating.

Irock

There is also no set size for an apple to be considered a "whole" apple.

biohazard

Quote from: Irock on January 12, 2008, 02:56:34 AM
There is also no set size for an apple to be considered a "whole" apple.
Fist sized.

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Havick

1+1=2 only when considering no other factors, if you brought another factor into it then it would not be exactly 2, e.g 1kg+1kg=2kg, it is not 1+1 but 1kg+1kg, when those numbers are put together you get 2kg, not 2 but 2kg. Therefore 1+1=2. If someone can find one example of 1+1 not equaling 2 I'll rep them.
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Esmeralda

Quote from: Irock on January 12, 2008, 02:56:34 AM
There is also no set size for an apple to be considered a "whole" apple.

Yes there is. EU standard.
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HolyQuebec

Quote from: Anski on January 12, 2008, 12:31:42 AM
Numbers were created and are used to count the whole of an object.

Saying that an object is .999 would be irrelevant because you HAVE to either count it as one whole or count it by it's mathematical dimensions. Saying everything is not one but infact .999 is a total lie.

First time I agree with you.
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Forty

Quote from: Havick on January 12, 2008, 06:31:28 AM
1+1=2 only when considering no other factors, if you brought another factor into it then it would not be exactly 2, e.g 1kg+1kg=2kg, it is not 1+1 but 1kg+1kg, when those numbers are put together you get 2kg, not 2 but 2kg. Therefore 1+1=2. If someone can find one example of 1+1 not equaling 2 I'll rep them.

Since 1g and 1kg are not the same thing, it would be more like 1kg and .0001kg or 1000kg and 1g.
They are not the same.

ChaosSpartan28

Quote from: Havick on January 12, 2008, 06:31:28 AM
1+1=2 only when considering no other factors, if you brought another factor into it then it would not be exactly 2, e.g 1kg+1kg=2kg, it is not 1+1 but 1kg+1kg, when those numbers are put together you get 2kg, not 2 but 2kg. Therefore 1+1=2. If someone can find one example of 1+1 not equaling 2 I'll rep them.

1 :bean: + 1  :mex: = 1 :bean: + 1  :mex:
1X       + 1Y       = 1X       + 1Y
The reason is because their variables are not similar, therefore not equaling 2.  :)
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Quote from: Zylos on January 12, 2008, 12:25:14 AM
I asked my professor why he believed that one plus one does not equal two and he said that since no two objects are exactly the same (even in cloning), we cannot add two items together and say we have exactly two items. There is always a margin of error.

For example, everyone here would probably agree that if I have an apple in each hand, I have two apples. But to my professor since the apples are not the same size, I am not truly holding onto two apples but rather approximately two apples +/- some small percent.

Personally, I think it's just BS, but there are a lot of people who (like my professor) truly believe that 1+1 doen't equal 2.
What a retarded professor. One is always one. It will be and it always has been. One drawn or shown may not be exactly the same but all of math is pretty bullshit if you ask me. We take "one" and we "add" it to another "one" and we get a new freakin' thing called "two." Like Calvin says, math is a lot like religion. It requires a crap load more of faith and we somehow get by in the world with this made up idea.

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Quote from: Arlen on January 13, 2008, 04:21:41 PM
I guess every board needs a SSOG, RIGHT MALSON!? hahahaha

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haloOfTheSun

Mathematics is a very flawed system created by humans. You will never need to know that 1+1 equals anything other than 2.
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