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Final Fantasy 7

Started by Kefka, October 01, 2007, 03:29:08 AM

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Should square enix remake FF7?

yes
13 (46.4%)
no
15 (53.6%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Sophist

LOL, how did this thread get so far without me?

So liek, I think there are too many people bashing on FF7. Most people just hate it because they have this natural instinct to stand out and not do what everyone else does. It was an awesome game, it flowed really well and had awesome characters. Sure, everyone was blown away that it was totally 3D, but it still was a good game. Not the best, obviously, but it is still my favorite RPG. The whole story was great, albeit long. Of course, there are the people who have taken the game too far, but if you really look past all the intense fanboy/girl-ism, it is really a great game. It is considered a classic, one of the best of all time.

But, on subject; This game doesn't need a remake. I loved this game, bought it the DAY it came out, and I was INCREDIBLY pissed off at all the fanboys/girls who had gotten obsessed over Advent Children and hadn't even played the game, probably got the plot off Wikipedia or whatever. Some things should be kept to those who got there first, not trying to rake in as many willing weeaboos Japanophiles as possible.  :mad:
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tSwitch

Quote from: The.Muffin.King on October 01, 2007, 08:53:17 PM
Yeah man this is older then my grandma, also, Yes they should remake it. Remakes are good and fuck anyone who says other wise.

oh?

Quote from: HaloOfTheSun on October 01, 2007, 09:07:15 PM
I'm sure a lot of us here feel that FF7 is horribly overrated and should never be looked back upon. But you know you're lying if you wouldn't play the remake if there ever was one.

I wouldn't
I guess I'm a liar then


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Quote from: NAMKCOR on October 01, 2007, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: The.Muffin.King on October 01, 2007, 08:53:17 PM
Yeah man this is older then my grandma, also, Yes they should remake it. Remakes are good and fuck anyone who says other wise.

oh?

Quote from: HaloOfTheSun on October 01, 2007, 09:07:15 PM
I'm sure a lot of us here feel that FF7 is horribly overrated and should never be looked back upon. But you know you're lying if you wouldn't play the remake if there ever was one.

I wouldn't
I guess I'm a liar then

I'm all for remakes of classics. Classics are good until they make a remake. For instinces, Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes. Amazing remake. People ri[ on it. I play it more the the original. Super Smash too, i play newer ones instead of the n64 one. So any remake of a good game is welcome in my books.

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tSwitch

the way I see it, if you can't appreciate a game the way it was originally made, and you need better graphics or what have you to appreciate it, then you're not a real fan.


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The.Muffin.King

Quote from: NAMKCOR on October 01, 2007, 10:29:24 PM
the way I see it, if you can't appreciate a game the way it was originally made, and you need better graphics or what have you to appreciate it, then you're not a real fan.

What i'm saying is, a game is great, even with bad graphics, but making graphics better and adding voice acting never hurt anything.


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Moss.

How dare you, Muffin King! This thread isn't about opinions, it's about the indisputable fact of whether or not FF7 should be remade!!!

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Lord Dante

Quote from: EVAProject01 on October 01, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
LOL, how did this thread get so far without me?

So liek, I think there are too many people bashing on FF7. Most people just hate it because they have this natural instinct to stand out and not do what everyone else does. It was an awesome game, it flowed really well and had awesome characters. Sure, everyone was blown away that it was totally 3D, but it still was a good game. Not the best, obviously, but it is still my favorite RPG. The whole story was great, albeit long. Of course, there are the people who have taken the game too far, but if you really look past all the intense fanboy/girl-ism, it is really a great game. It is considered a classic, one of the best of all time.

But, on subject; This game doesn't need a remake. I loved this game, bought it the DAY it came out, and I was INCREDIBLY pissed off at all the fanboys/girls who had gotten obsessed over Advent Children and hadn't even played the game, probably got the plot off Wikipedia or whatever. Some things should be kept to those who got there first, not trying to rake in as many willing weeaboos Japanophiles as possible.  :mad:
agreed.
I liked Advent Children, not as a full sequel to FFVII, but rather because i enjoyed the score and the CG was pretty (and choreography) :P

tSwitch

Quote from: The.Muffin.King on October 01, 2007, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on October 01, 2007, 10:29:24 PM
the way I see it, if you can't appreciate a game the way it was originally made, and you need better graphics or what have you to appreciate it, then you're not a real fan.

What i'm saying is, a game is great, even with bad graphics, but making graphics better and adding voice acting never hurt anything.

I don't like voice acting in most RPGS


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chewey

Quote from: EVAProject01 on October 01, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
LOL, how did this thread get so far without me?

So liek, I think there are too many people bashing on FF7. Most people just hate it because they have this natural instinct to stand out and not do what everyone else does. It was an awesome game, it flowed really well and had awesome characters. Sure, everyone was blown away that it was totally 3D, but it still was a good game. Not the best, obviously, but it is still my favorite RPG. The whole story was great, albeit long. Of course, there are the people who have taken the game too far, but if you really look past all the intense fanboy/girl-ism, it is really a great game. It is considered a classic, one of the best of all time.

But, on subject; This game doesn't need a remake. I loved this game, bought it the DAY it came out, and I was INCREDIBLY pissed off at all the fanboys/girls who had gotten obsessed over Advent Children and hadn't even played the game, probably got the plot off Wikipedia or whatever. Some things should be kept to those who got there first, not trying to rake in as many willing weeaboos Japanophiles as possible.  :mad:
Story and flow in FF7 was not "great."

The story didn't even make sense! FF7 is terrible and does not deserve its huge fanbase.

The.Muffin.King

Quote from: Dear Arlen on October 01, 2007, 10:31:42 PM
How dare you, Muffin King! This thread isn't about opinions, it's about the indisputable fact of whether or not FF7 should be remade!!!

I'll go back in my hole...

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iceflame1019

#35
Quote from: Dear Arlen on October 01, 2007, 10:31:42 PM
This thread isn't about opinions, it's about the indisputable fact that FF7 should be remade!!!
fix'd :)

Quote from: NAMKCOR on October 01, 2007, 10:29:24 PM
the way I see it, if you can't appreciate a game the way it was originally made, and you need better graphics or what have you to appreciate it, then you're not a real fan.
I do want better graphics, but only because I personally find it hard to see some things in the game.  I'm perfectly happy with the original but I find it difficult to see some things.  All I'd request is a simple graphics retouch and nothing else, no voiceovers, no extra characters/scenes/weapons/spells/whatever.  That would further my appreciation for the game, being able to see more of it.  On either the computer screen or the TV I have trouble seeing some of the CG things over the static backgrounds, and judging distances and stuff.  Not that I'm blind, I just tend to overlook some things that tend to be somewhat important.

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Sophist

Quote from: chewey on October 02, 2007, 01:44:37 AM
Quote from: EVAProject01 on October 01, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
LOL, how did this thread get so far without me?

So liek, I think there are too many people bashing on FF7. Most people just hate it because they have this natural instinct to stand out and not do what everyone else does. It was an awesome game, it flowed really well and had awesome characters. Sure, everyone was blown away that it was totally 3D, but it still was a good game. Not the best, obviously, but it is still my favorite RPG. The whole story was great, albeit long. Of course, there are the people who have taken the game too far, but if you really look past all the intense fanboy/girl-ism, it is really a great game. It is considered a classic, one of the best of all time.

But, on subject; This game doesn't need a remake. I loved this game, bought it the DAY it came out, and I was INCREDIBLY pissed off at all the fanboys/girls who had gotten obsessed over Advent Children and hadn't even played the game, probably got the plot off Wikipedia or whatever. Some things should be kept to those who got there first, not trying to rake in as many willing weeaboos Japanophiles as possible.  :mad:
Story and flow in FF7 was not "great."

The story didn't even make sense! FF7 is terrible and does not deserve its huge fanbase.

Yes, but the whole point of that was the second paragraph.
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oneray

They should remake it and put it on the 360 and Wii.  ;D

Moss.

#38
The story made sense to me. As much as a fantasy epic with good, evil, and some existential/self-image meltdown is supposed to make sense.

chewey must just be retarded.

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

Sophist

Quote from: oneray on October 02, 2007, 10:15:18 PM
They should remake it and put it on the 360 and Wii.  ;D

UHH, FUCK NO.

That game would be TERRIBLE on the Wii. WTF are you thinking? Even a Wii fanboy knows it would be retarded. The Wii was not for RPG's obviously.

Quote from: Dear Arlen on October 02, 2007, 10:27:06 PM
The story made sense to me. chewey must just be retarded.

We have established this.  :blizj:
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from the infinite fields of dreamless sleep
[/fright]

&&&&&&&&&&&&&

The only real problem I had with the entire game... was Sephiroth.   ;9

He is the most shallow, Cliché character I have ever seen.  :-\
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Moss.

#41
Quote from: Fred on October 02, 2007, 10:44:21 PM
The only real problem I had with the entire game... was Sephiroth.   ;9

He is the most shallow, Cliché character I have ever seen.  :-\
His background was rather interesting, though. Especially with the whole clone/puppet/actually becoming part of the planet thing.

In fact, you could say that the only time you see the REAL Sephiroth is the final battle, and the flashback. All other encounters with him were just puppets, other failed clones, because he was all up in the crater in that materia crystal the whole time.

This is evidenced by how, at some times, Sephiroth just goes and repeats himself, or does something really weird or random. That's because it's not really him. It's a failed clone being manipulated by him.

:tinysmile::tinysmile:

The.Muffin.King

Quote from: oneray on October 02, 2007, 10:15:18 PM
They should remake it and put it on the 360 and Wii.  ;D

Yeah while we're talking about wii, how about a new type of game where you use the wii-most and nunchuck to fold shirts and paper, into origami.

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Quote from: EVAProject01 on October 02, 2007, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: oneray on October 02, 2007, 10:15:18 PM
They should remake it and put it on the 360 and Wii.  ;D

UHH, FUCK NO.

That game would be TERRIBLE on the Wii. WTF are you thinking? Even a Wii fanboy knows it would be retarded. The Wii was not for RPG's obviously.

I agree that I don't want such a shitty game on a godly console, but who the hell are you to say the the Wii isn't an RPG console, as far as we know, we don't know.

iceflame1019

Sephiroth is awesome even though he's mentally unstable.  His past is pretty complex, all the main characters in the game are tied to each other in some way...

Quote from: Bunbury on October 03, 2007, 02:49:56 AM
I agree that I don't want such a shitty game on a godly console
"shitty" game?!?!?!?!  DIE YOU!!!!!!!!   DIE I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's the best rpg I've encountered yet.  it's the best rpg ever MADE. 

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Quote from: iceflame1019 on October 03, 2007, 09:17:59 PM
Sephiroth is awesome even though he's mentally unstable.  His past is pretty complex, all the main characters in the game are tied to each other in some way...

Quote from: Bunbury on October 03, 2007, 02:49:56 AM
I agree that I don't want such a shitty game on a godly console
"shitty" game?!?!?!?!  DIE YOU!!!!!!!!   DIE I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's the best rpg I've encountered yet.  it's the best rpg ever MADE. 

I think we could tell Mr.Cloud.

Honestly as far as RPGS my favorite one right now is Brave Story on PSP

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Sophist

OK ENOUGH FINAL FANTASY.


I regret posting in this thread already, I knew exactly how it would end. :nono: Everytime someone (The.Muffin.King) starts something on VG, it ends in "OMFG HOW DO YOU HATE THE WII." and other bullshit we are all tired of posting and seeing.  :mad:

Let's talk about the new style of RPG's. They have obviously progressed to something new but lost quite alot of fans TO Final Fantasy.

What is your favorite new RPG?

Mine would be Eternal Sonata (Or Drawn to Life but it is hardly an RPG.  ;9)
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The.Muffin.King

Quote from: EVAProject01 on October 03, 2007, 09:58:15 PM
OK ENOUGH FINAL FANTASY.


I regret posting in this thread already, I knew exactly how it would end. :nono: Everytime someone (The.Muffin.King) starts something on VG, it ends in "OMFG HOW DO YOU HATE THE WII." and other bullshit we are all tired of posting and seeing.  :mad:

Let's talk about the new style of RPG's. They have obviously progressed to something new but lost quite alot of fans TO Final Fantasy.

What is your favorite new RPG?

Mine would be Eternal Sonata (Or Drawn to Life but it is hardly an RPG.  ;9)

=D

Also, my favorite RPG for the time being is Brave Story on the PSP though i do love Super Mario RPG, or Star Ocean 3

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Sophist

Drawn to Life is going to be one of those heavily underestimated games. First game where you draw almost EVERYTHING to the world. Hero, characters, vehicles. I so want it.  ;8
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biohazard

The Wii could be the best RPG gaming console of all time.  Think about it, havok physics engine, oblivion styled gameplay, but you attack by swinging the WiiMote, each weapon would have different attack styles, and based on your level and how hard and fast (and what angle) you swing the remote at, it adds up to an equasion of what damage you hit.