Religion.

I agree with the tree.

Saucy:

I think what Holkeye was talking about was that every time someone even so much as mentions religion, you immediately find out what their beliefs are and ritualistically assault them, berate them, and attack their own beliefs.

Why does it bother you so much? Are you trying to save us from being wrong about God, or something? Looking for more people to believe in what you believe, so you don't feel so alone?

At times, I think you're about as annoying as any other Jesus freak that comes trying to persuade us to believe in his savior. Just as pushy. Just as irritating. Just as annoying.

Give it a rest.

You mean pushing my thought that there is no personal-god in a topic designed exactly for that? That's what this topics about, no?

I rarely do that outside of the debate section, and I do it there because the lack of god is the most likely correct choice and a personal god is an impossibility.

You're still ridiculously overzealous about it.

Give. It. A. Rest.



And I thought this topic was "what religion are you," not "what religion should you be."

Don't take that last part too seriously, I was being facetious.

You're still ridiculously overzealous about it.

Alright, yes I am.

Give. It. A. Rest.



And I thought this topic was "what religion are you," not "what religion should you be."

Also in this thread I intend on ripping apart your silly arguments for why you believe in God

It's an illegal debate topic so it was put in general chat. {Besides, atheism isn't a religion.} [edit] Wrote this before I saw you're edit.

Stop bitching at each other children.
Let's get back to religion.

lol @ you being 12 hours late

I was raised in a very moderate Chrisitan setting, but thankfully, I rarely had to waste my time attending church.  Around the time I entered Middle School, I began to really question my religious beliefs.  But, I was still very young, and at the time I did nothing about it.

I was in high school when I realized how much of an impact religion has on society, so I really began to study Christianity, as well as many other religions.  I found them to be ridiculously flawed and socially corrupted.  The more I looked into it, the more unappealing it became.

Even though I realized that existing religions aren't for me, that didn't necessarily rule out the existence of a God.  Around the time I graduated high school, I became very interested in science.  Since then, I've studied it fairly extensively, and begun taking courses in college relating to religion and humanity.

Today, I am an atheist, and proud.

lol @ forums not being real-time

Indeed, it is funny when people stop arguing and there's a 12 hour silence, and THEN someone comes in and is all WOAH GUYS CALM DOWN JESUS CHRIST, lol.

Oh you two ~

Whooooooooosh.

When I was young my parents always tried forcing me to church so I would go and sit there wasting my time.  Then I made the mistake of actually opening the bible and reading it from page one.  Wow didn't think I would laugh before the first page was even done.  I've seen enough evidence to not even believe in their god so i guess you could say I'm an Atheist but the thing is, I also don't give a shit about the others, so I guess I'm kind of Agnostic

funny story though, I see millions of people praying and not getting shit, then me, the non Christian sends out a prayer to Mother Gaia and BAM my prayer actually came true 

Edit: akk almost forgot to put it in yellow, also, I'm going to bed for now

Edit: akk almost forgot to put it in yellow, also, I'm going to bed for now

I really wish you hadn't remembered.

Then I made the mistake of actually opening the bible and reading it from page one.

you actaully managed to read the whole thing? i can get into almost any book as long as its written well no matter what its about. but the bible was so incredibly boring i got to about page 10 and decided to stop (fell asleep would be more accurate)

Then I made the mistake of actually opening the bible and reading it from page one.

you actually managed to read the whole thing? i can get into almost any book as long as its written well no matter what its about. but the bible was so incredibly boring i got to about page 10 and decided to stop (fell asleep would be more accurate)

No, no I didn't read the whole thing, I read all of Genesis and then my parents finally realized that I didn't want to go to church (I'm surprised it took them that long to figure it out considering I was fighting them about it every Sunday)

I reread what I said and how I said it does seem like i read the whole thing.

I dont remember exactly but I know theres a part somewhere in the bible where Jesus walks up to a fig tree when it is not fig season and he demands a fig.  But because its not fig season it doesn't give it to him and he gets pissed and destroys the tree...
damn I wish I could remember what part that was.  I'll look for it but first I have to go to class

I dont remember exactly but I know theres a part somewhere in the bible where Jesus walks up to a fig tree when it is not fig season and he demands a fig.  But because its not fig season it doesn't give it to him and he gets pissed and destroys the tree...
damn I wish I could remember what part that was.  I'll look for it but first I have to go to class

Are you serious?  I don't know if that's entirely accurate or not, but that's still fucking hilarious!  I can see that whole scene playing out in my head, and it's in anime...because anime Jesus is way funnier than regular Jesus.

As I recall it's in Matthew or Luke, but I'm not sure.

Both Mark and Matthew, actually. Due to it's closeness to the incident with the money lenders in the temple, it is generally believed to be a metaphor for the Jewish faith. It's kind of a strange story.

The fig tree is all over the gospels though.

found it.  (ended up typing in Jesus vs the fig tree to help me find it since I had just finished slow scanning all of Luke and not finding it)

It was a curse actually, and it withers by the next day due to his curse

Mark: 11:12-14

The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.  Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again."  And his disciples heard him say it.

I know, I didn't type up the next section that it might symbolize but thats a lot of typing ><

I think that you can draw meaning from just about anything if you try hard enough. Isn't there an old saying that goes something like: "If you look for something hard enough, you're sure to find it"? The most important bible lesson that I can remember is the one about the talents. I learned this story when I was 7 or 8, so I took "talents" to mean just that, rather than money as it was supposed to. I took from this that if there is a god, he wants you to nurture and cultivate the things that you are good at. A lot of the bible is meant to be taken with a grain of salt, and I think as with most things, the more literally it is taken, the farther from the lessons you get. Just as in song lyrics and poetry, you automatically insert yourself into the equation, so everyone has a different view. This is all probably pretty obvious to most of you, but my point is:

Why do people worry so much about what other people believe in if they're doing no harm to you?