The End of Mankind . . . .

[Ruhani777]

Quote from oneray

When i say immunity to viruses, I mean natural immunities. There are some people in the world who will never get AIDS no matter how many people they do and have never gotten shots or what eva. Everyone is immune to something or don'tas affected. That is how animals survive and that is how bacteria survive anti-biotics. You may say that bacteria produce faster but there was always one that had the immunity. I think colonies are possible, but won't happen for a couple of hundered years. I am sure some humans will have children with some aliens and stuff. Humans did make a mule, why can't we make a Chewbaccuman?

I noe another way to stop an asteroid:
You send a missile, which does not explode, and make it penerate the asteroid and go all the way through. As it goes all the way through, high density strings are attached. Once the missile comes out the other end, the missile uses its own propulsion to alter the path of the asteroid. It may move the asteroid a couple of meters but it can change the collision course.

anybody can get aids, at anytime, any place, anywhere. No one is immune to nature's deathly effects. I'm not talking about bacteria dude, I'm talking about viruses, they can mutate faster than we could make vaccines for them. Soon we would have a virus that would not have a vaccine for it, such as aids, and no one is safe from it. We can stay immune as long as we follow simple guidelines. Its just that if we make a simple mistake, our immunity is broken. that missle idea is a very bad idea, why waste money, time, and resources for something that'll slow down apophis.

and really, your arguements are heavily based on fantasy, so if you want to debate, get your facts straight.

[Holkeye]

We might as well just face the simple fact that one day, human life will end. We will end up doing something to ourselves, or the earth will make some sort of catastrophic change, and we just won't be here anymore. Its foolish to try and worry about the way we will be wiped out, because that time is just time wasted that you could be living. As the old saying goes, "Anything that can happen, will happen eventually." We are simply an eventuality, as will be the end of our "reign" on this floating boulder we call home. We are lucky to have even existed at all, and wasting time worrying about how we will be destroyed is a disservice to the forces that brought us here.

[Ruhani777]

all mankind has to end what so ever. Holkeye is 80% correct, we should stop worrying on how we'll die, and just let that time come here. Who knows how it'll end. 20% goes to the fact that debating is fun, and we should have something to discuss.

[Holkeye]

I totally agree. That's why I didn't say "We shouldn't waste time debating it," but said, "We shouldn't waste time worrying about it."

[Kaitenshin]

Damn, this has gone on longer than I expected.

--Still, the fact remains, virus can easily kill us, so can a rouge black hole, or even a star exploding nearby (stars make a big, BIG ka-boom), and climate or nukes are some of the more likely.

[Ruhani777]

theres a possibility the asteroid might demolish 90% of earth.....

only if we make a stupid decision on how we're gonna demolish the asteroid 

[Link]

but the only thing we could do would shoot missiles at it, even then it would explode then we got lots of smaller ones, meh humans are gonna die but more then likely not in my life time so who cares.

[cobragamer]

Ok so the sun Idea is out because of it taking millions of years. The astroid is unless when we try to stop it it fails. The nuclear Idea is still possible but people will still survive most likely. The virus is still there but we can stop viruses by quorinteen it and put down safty precautions. So right now not that it will happen we are loking at the global warming thing. Sopposely we see side effects from it from the weather and deeper oceans because we can only slow it down and not prevent it comepletly.

[Holkeye]

I'm kind of on the fence about the whole global warming thing. Who's to say that it isn't natural for the Earth's climate to shift itself in long spans? We've only had the technology to monitor the climate for the last 100 years at the absolute most, and that is like a second to the Earth. We can't go back and look at the data from longer ago because there wasn't any data to look at.

[Ruhani777]

have you seen the movie day after tommorow? even scientists say all that crap is possible if global warming is anymore. Sure the asteroid gonna be blown to bits, but think of where the debris will land. It could land in different cities, countries, etc, its depends if you're gonna blow it up near earth or really far from earth. Far: You hve a chance of 30% of the debris missing earth, and the 70% will cause their own destruction. Near: You have a 60% chance of isolating the debris in on region. The other 40% could hit a city perhaps.

[Holkeye]

I agree that global warming could be possible. I'm just saying that I don't think its provable. Also, where do you come up with your statistics? In almost every thread, you give percentages, and they seem a bit arbitrary to me. Perhaps if I knew what your sources were?

[Ruhani777]

i make up my own statistic, they're just theories, and i feel they're very possible. theres a reason why i put thinking words on them (perhaps, maybe, possibly).

[Ruhani777]

but either the asteroid is going to kill people, and one of them reduces the losses.

[oneray]

Your not getting my point. I am not talking about a vaccine! Some ppl in the world can never get AIDS because they have a gene that resists it. That is how bacteria work! One bacteria is resistant to anti-botics, that will reproduce with other bacteria and sooner or later, all the bacteria are resistant to anti-biotics. That's why anti-biotics can be used to treat every illness for a long period of time. If everyone else dies cuz of a virus, about a thousand or more would survive. This has nothing to with vaccines or medicine, this has to do with EVOLUTION!

And about the missile idea, I am sry but that is what NASA is building RIGHT NOW! You know that some asteroids are porous, so a nuke would go right through it. This idea alters its course by attaching on to it. It is a lot more cheaper cuz you don't to spend money on explosives or worry about nuclear stuff.

[Ruhani777]

bacteria are not viruses, they only carry them. it is only viruses that can mutate. There has been no specific proof of a gene that can avoid aids, if it were, then it'd be on the news and i'd know it by now, because i take a integrated medical science class, and finding that gene will be very hard. The human Genome project would've found it by now, but as i've said its hard to find that particular gene. Also, thats possible by genetic altering, or in simpler terms, mutation. the only mutations i've seen were physical and neurological mutations. Also, cloning humans to make them superhumans is illegal, so therefore, not possible.

[Samael]

And please, don't say mankind won't end, because all things must end weather you believe in science or not.

How could we know? Mankind is very resistant, I believe that even the end of our planet wouldn't mean our death.
Evolution is the only point in which I trust. In 100000 years, maybe we'll still exist but we probably won't be the same as today.

[Holkeye]

Everything ends.

[Ruhani777]

sammy, look at all the crap earth's been going through. how do you expect mankind to resist this, and even if we were to resist the natural shit, we won't be able to resist the sun losing energy and dieing out, burning yp the planets, causing ourselves to go extinct.

[oneray]

The sun ain't going to burn up for another 1 billion or more years. It took us 4000 years to exceed the sound of speed and have high-definition pornography. I am sure in 1 billion+ years, we can get off this planet. I am pretty sure humans will cease to exist but not after 10 billion years.

[Ruhani777]

the average star,  has a lifetime of 10billions years, the earth took 4billion to form, that leaves us less than 6billion years for mandkind to fullfil it's duties. We can get off this planet alright, but im pretty sure they wont do it for another hundred years of course. Also, i dont think we should colonize on other planets. We're not fit for their environment, and also it's time consuming and why waste time and money to send humans to another planet, only to have them mutate into another species of humans.

[Samael]

Global warming will make the earth unbearable long before the sun's death.

sammy, look at all the crap earth's been going through. how do you expect mankind to resist this, and even if we were to resist the natural shit, we won't be able to resist the sun losing energy and dieing out, burning yp the planets, causing ourselves to go extinct.

IF we stay here you are right. But in one century no one can tell the technology that would be ours. Maybe we will be able to move to another planet where life is possible. Science-fiction you say? Yes, For now it is but tell anyone who lived during the middle ages that in the 20th century there will be flying machines...

[Holkeye]

I call no more "interplanetary" defenses in this topic.

[oneray]

Colonies could created in attempts to find the next earth. I am sure that everybody would not want to go to planet A. We could divide and find our own planets. That is basically how humans got from Africa to the rest of the world.

[Ruhani777]

Why waste money and time to find the next suitable planet? Theres a planet called pegasus, its just like ours, but it'll take more than 50-100 years to get to. Theres no way of survival on that planet because of temperature conditions. so i reject idea of colonising on other planets. Why the fuck r we talking about interplanetary colonization? we're not ready for that, stick to the subject.

[biohazard]

2012, end of the world.