How can you honestly not believe in what the bible says?

Might be slightly off-topic, but I want to link another thread from a forum for a different game in relevance to this debate.

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1198669

It has some interesting stuff in it. For one, events are lining up to show that something significant MIGHT happen in 2010 in regards to the End of Times. It is only 53 posts, although some are quite long, so you guys should check it out.

In the words of the famous Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

S-S-S-SUPER STANDING OVATION

Might be slightly off-topic, but I want to link another thread from a forum for a different game in relevance to this debate.

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1198669

It has some interesting stuff in it. For one, events are lining up to show that something significant MIGHT happen in 2010 in regards to the End of Times. It is only 53 posts, although some are quite long, so you guys should check it out.

I just read it. So far I can only say:
HAHAHAHA! People are so afraid of death! xD
And I hate that RFID technology already if it's gonna do that what is said there. !_!
OH SHIT, WE'RE ALL DEAD!

EDIT:
I seriously doubt Christians will be hunted and killed. I mean one third of the world if believing in Jesus. =/

Most of these SUPAR DETAILED PROPHECIES seem to be pretty standard. Jewish religion focuses on the hardships of the present while predicting a glorious future (a fruitful, populous Israel), so the prophecies regarding Israel's future are hardly mind-blowing, especially when you consider the fact that Israelis are all familiar with Jewish prophecy and would work to fulfill them. Also, a lot of these prophecies are vague and rely on Christian interpretation to be true.

Some of the weakest prophecies on those lists concern the defeat of the Edomites and the destruction of Tyre. The prophecies about the Edomites are obvious revenge fantasies that came true 400 years later. Almost any prophecy will come true after hundreds of years, especially prophecies that predict the destruction of cities. Tyre is an important city in a region that has a lot of wars, so its destruction is not a surprise. Tyre was destroyed, yes, but by Alexander, not Nebuchadnezzar. Just because it was destroyed eventually does not mean the prophecy was fulfilled. Their claims regarding the rebuilding of Tyre are incredibly weaksauce. It wasn't rebuilt by Phoenicians, so it doesn't count!

I've has a lot of fun reading this site, which lists a lot of failed prophecies and contradictions. My favorite is this one:

"According to Jon 3:4, Nineveh will be overthrown in 40 days, but then God changed his mind about having Nineveh overthrown. (See Jon 3:10.)"

I have a few prophecies:

~Posts about religion on the RMRK forums will continue indefinately, with no person being wrong. As far as beliefs go, you are always right to yourself.

~cobragamer will naturally revert every topic he posts in to be about the bible.

~Ruhani will lock his own post, stating that everyone is ignorant when in reality, his mind is just too closed to entertain anyone else's opinion.

~This topic will devolve into a pissing contest, as every other eventually does.

~In about 20 minutes, thousands of unborn children will meet a grizzly fate, when I flush a piece of kleenex down the toilet.

~Tsunokiette will continue to back cobragamer up no matter what~

You forgot one.

I think it's funny how they ignore your good facts.

Corection it was not a prophesy it was a warning and according to the next few chapter ninevah believed so why can't you

The last three posts made no sense whatsoever.

The last three posts made no sense whatsoever.

I edited Holkeye's post to include -

~Tsunokiette will continue to back cobragamer up no matter what~

Irockman was saying it's funny that everyone ignores fact.

Cobragamer was refering to this -

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,13885.msg178894.html#msg178894

Or more specifically, this -

"According to Jon 3:4, Nineveh will be overthrown in 40 days, but then God changed his mind about having Nineveh overthrown. (See Jon 3:10.)"

The Bible cannot be proven as fact, so no one is ignoring anything, except those of you who keep throwing out Bible verses.

The Bible cannot be proven as fact, so no one is ignoring anything, except those of you who keep throwing out Bible verses.

Wrong. Sorry, but that's just wrong.

Archaelogists said the Bible was false because it mentioned a mine with ore they didn't believe existed in the Middle East. Then they found it. :/

keep throwing out Bible verses.

[Ezekiel 25:17]
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"

The Bible cannot be proven as fact, so no one is ignoring anything, except those of you who keep throwing out Bible verses.

Wrong. Sorry, but that's just wrong.

Archaelogists said the Bible was false because it mentioned a mine with ore they didn't believe existed in the Middle East. Then they found it. :/

lol, and that proves what? That Jesus existed? That there is a God? Because there was ONE thing in the Bible that was later proved true? Just because one place that was mentioned in the Bible was found to have existed, that doesn't mean anything. That's like saying since there are presents underneath my tree Christmas morning, then Santa must exist, because they weren't there when I went to bed.

TAMPAX

Does anything really make sense? Explain how anything was formed in the first place. Explain where time and space comes from. There are some thing that don't have a Scientific explanation.

"I don't understand it. God must have made it." I love the logic, it's simple

I think religious people like yourself are weak-minded cowards, if you want an honest opinion. You can't accept the world as it is, so you need to make up a God to hide behind

How does believing differently than you make me a coward? You can't except the fact that Christianity has allot more facts to back it up than the theory of evolution. And how do you go across calling billions of people "weak-minded cowards"?
Until evolution becomes a scientific law after passing the scientific method I am not going to believe in it. You can post here all you want but I advise you don't attempt to insult anyone. That's not why I made this thread. And also I don't "Hide behind God" I worship him for he created everything and cares for everyone.

Or I could just beleive we came up from some shit on the ground.

Theroy of Evolution was disproved years ago man.......

How exactly was the THEORY of evolution disproved?  I think it is much more likely than "god made the world 6000 years ago, all the animals were on it at the same time".  Carbon dating, anyone?

How exactly was the THEORY of evolution disproved?  I think it is much more likely than "god made the world 6000 years ago, all the animals were on it at the same time".  Carbon dating, anyone?

I meant with the thing that we came from monkeys.
That was diproved.

I'm sorry, I've waited long enough and I think its about time someone spoke up.


GET A FUCKING DICTIONARY

Okay then. Let's say evolution is true.

Explain how complex systems emerged at the same time. If evolution is small changes over time, how is it that the Giraffe's neck got longer?

(Cobra's gonna laugh at this -- discussion in class)

The Giraffe's neck has special systems that without which the Giraffe's head would explode when it bent down. If the systems formed before the neck became longer, the the girraffe would die from blood depravation everytime it bent down.

Also Holkeye, I didn't edit what YOU wrote, I added a line that was not offensive at all. In a joking manner (even though what I said is true).

Also, (excuse my language please), never say that shit about me again. You can say whatever you want about me, but never say something as disgraceful as that again. "jesus fellating cross-up-the-ass bullshit preacher" -- I oughta kick your ass for saying something like that. You're lucky this is over the internet.

And what the heck does a dictionary have to do with anything? In another topic (perhaps this one) someone said that 'microevolution' was the wrong word for me to have used. I checked later and they were wrong.

There is nothing wrong with microevolution, SMALL changes within a species. But inter-species evolution DOES NOT EXIST. WE DID NOT COME FROM SHIT FLINGING MONKEYS.

(once again, I apologize for my language)

Also, (excuse my language please), never say that shit about me again. You can say whatever you want about me, but never say something as disgraceful as that again. "jesus fellating cross-up-the-ass bullshit preacher" -- I oughta kick your ass for saying something like that. You're lucky this is over the internet.

JESUS SAYS: TURN THE OTHER CHEEK.
Also don't curse, you dirty sinner.

lol, and that proves what? That Jesus existed? That there is a God? Because there was ONE thing in the Bible that was later proved true? Just because one place that was mentioned in the Bible was found to have existed, that doesn't mean anything. That's like saying since there are presents underneath my tree Christmas morning, then Santa must exist, because they weren't there when I went to bed.

Interesting how people of that location and time period knew these things, ain't it?

Here are my 10 reasons for not following the bible.

1. If God made us in his image why are we not invisable ?
2. If he made the world and the stars then the next day made light, that means he worked blind.
3. If Adam and Eve had two sons, so for use to continue that means Eve must have shagged them.
4. In the dawn of time man walked the Earth in the bible, yet dinosaurs had been here much longer.
5. Jesus grew up in Israel how comes Israelies see him as a profit not the son of God ?
6. Why would Jesus turn water into wine if in most religions drinking achole is unholy ?
7. Jesus had a child and a misses and they fled to France, why does the bible miss this point out ?
8. Most of the bible are blown up stories by people besotted with Jesus, why should we follow it ?
9. The Bible has no real time line, most of it is a right jumble and it's been re-written too many times.
10. Just cuz it's called the Gospel doesn't mean it's true.

The Bible sucks arse... Infact the only thing I would use it's pages for is just that, wiping my Butt !!!

keep throwing out Bible verses.

[Ezekiel 25:17]
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"

LOL pulp fiction

and also wasnt the bible made like 200 years after theevent actully happend so explain that.

keep throwing out Bible verses.

[Ezekiel 25:17]
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"

LOL pulp fiction

and also wasnt the bible made like 200 years after theevent actully happend so explain that.

The Bible wasn't written 200 years before the events happened. O_o

The Old Testament was written throughout Israel's history, and the New Testament was written almost directly after the events happened.

@gonorrhoea - That has to do with physical abuse, and the Bible also says that we should protect our testimony. I realize cursing is a sin, but in essence, who made those bad words? God or man? I've already repented, but you can keep saying what you want about me.