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If he hadnt been a dictator, he would have been a perfect leader.

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ok no offense. but if u watched that video i think youre a fuckin creep.
my opinion. sorry for the bad language. but anyone who can watch someone die no matter who it is...just to watch it for entertainment kind of thing thats gross.

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Quit your whining and grab some popcorn. They're about to let go of the noose!

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I disagree. Otherwise, they wouldn't have had a shot of his face post-mortem. If they just threw him in a woodchipper, all they'd have pictures of are bloody, unrecognizable pieces.

Zypher the reason the wood chipper is a smart idea is due to how unimaginably pain dying like that would be. It might be more painfull then when he gassed his own people to death.

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The pain would not last long enough though, Fu. Maybe if he was dispensed feet first slowly into the wood chipper, you'd have a point.

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The pain would not last long enough though, Fu. Maybe if he was dispensed feet first slowly into the wood chipper, you'd have a point.

Thats pretty much how I'd do it. I kind of thought that went with out saying.

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ok no offense. but if u watched that video i think youre a fuckin creep.
my opinion. sorry for the bad language. but anyone who can watch someone die no matter who it is...just to watch it for entertainment kind of thing thats gross.

Not really. It was such poor quality you didn't even get to see him die :((((
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So about that money...
I still havent seen the vid. Any one got a link?

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you tube sadams death.
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Just because getting rid of Saddam is what the government wanted doesn't mean it was the smartest thing to do.
Did I say it was? Anyways, it's just symbolic anyways, as has been noted.

ok no offense. but if u watched that video i think youre a fuckin creep.
my opinion. sorry for the bad language. but anyone who can watch someone die no matter who it is...just to watch it for entertainment kind of thing thats gross.
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I watched it more from curiosity than for entertainment. And Djangie's right.
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So about that money...
I saw the Saddam video. I still say a wood chipper would of been better.

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Actually, it wasn't chosen by the government to choose his execution, it was a traditional Iraqi execution, and I guess he had to wait 30 days before getting hung (hanged whatever you want to call it), after them choosing the punishment, or however you want to say it. If he was executed else where it could possibly insult some of his followers which wouldn't be good, same thing with publicizing it, that's why it wasn't video taped. But someone did manage to sneak in a camera of some sort.

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Hmm, here's something that could be said.

"Death is no more than an escape of life, which can in turn be and escape from life's suffering.  Being forced to live with one's sins is the worst of all suffering, and the greatest punishment as your mind festers and rots from the hell you have inflicted, until nothing is left than a shell of pain and wishes for death's escape"

Quote's by me if anyone asks, it really fits with this topic.
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Hmm, here's something that could be said.

"Death is no more than an escape of life, which can in turn be and escape from life's suffering.  Being forced to live with one's sins is the worst of all suffering, and the greatest punishment as your mind festers and rots from the hell you have inflicted, until nothing is left than a shell of pain and wishes for death's escape"

Quote's by me if anyone asks, it really fits with this topic.

Of course, if he feels no remorse, then it's not punishment. Therefore execution would've had the same, if not a stronger, effect overall.
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OK... What if he wasn't hanged at all... What if that was one of his doubles...?

He had loads of them, and Iraq seemed to want him pretty badly... One of his doubles may have given his life for Saddams if his family got paid off...

Reason I say this is Saddam was so Brash and loud throught court, yet at the execution he said nothing he kept his mouth closed, his teeth or voice could have given away his true identity...

I often go with my gut feeling and some thing felt wrong about the whole thing...

Saddam should have been stripped of all clothing and placed into a Boiler suite, as all possetions including clothing is taken before a hanging... His head should have been covered before the Nuse was placed around his neck with a hood... There should have been only one executioner appoint by the court, not a gang of guys... there should have been a police esscort... (this was according to a news report on ITV prior to his death, on how it would take place)

I think what we are seeing is a fake video...

Here's How the procedure should have gone - Hanging Procedure
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Additionally, prior to an execution, the condemned offender's file is reviewed to determine if there are any unusual characteristics the offender possesses that might warrant deviation from field instructions on hanging. A physical examination and measuring process is conducted to assure almost instant death and a minimum of bruising. If careful measuring and planning is not done, strangulation, obstructed blood flow, or beheading could result. At the appropriate time on execution day, the inmate, in restraints, is escorted to the gallows area and is placed standing over a hinged trap door from which the offender will be dropped. Following the offender's last statement, a hood is placed over the offender's head. Restraints are also applied. If the offender refuses to stand or cannot stand, he is placed on a collapse board. A determination of the proper amount of the drop of the condemned offender through the trap door is calculated using a standard military execution chart for hanging. The "drop" must be based on the prisoner's weight, to deliver 1260 foot_pounds of force to the neck. The noose is then placed snugly around the convict's neck, behind his or her left ear, which will cause the neck to snap. The trap door then opens, and the convict drops. If properly done, death is caused by dislocation of the third and fourth cervical vertebrae, or by asphyxiation. A button mechanically releases the trap door and escorts then move to the lower floor location to assist in the removal of the offender's body.
 


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no it was a readl video LOS, watch CNN they will talk about how they have arrested the person who filmed it and he's in a LOAD of trouble.
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Nah... it could be real, but the fake Saddam... it just all looked to Lame...
 


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it had too...it was illegal to film during the thing, so they guy used the shitty video from his phone.
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Reason I say this is Saddam was so Brash and loud throught court, yet at the execution he said nothing he kept his mouth closed, his teeth or voice could have given away his true identity...

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well i don't think it would be fair to hang him on a muslim holiday!
BTW they hung saddam's half brothers

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OK... What if he wasn't hanged at all... What if that was one of his doubles...?

He had loads of them, and Iraq seemed to want him pretty badly... One of his doubles may have given his life for Saddams if his family got paid off...

Reason I say this is Saddam was so Brash and loud throught court, yet at the execution he said nothing he kept his mouth closed, his teeth or voice could have given away his true identity...

I often go with my gut feeling and some thing felt wrong about the whole thing...

Saddam should have been stripped of all clothing and placed into a Boiler suite, as all possetions including clothing is taken before a hanging... His head should have been covered before the Nuse was placed around his neck with a hood... There should have been only one executioner appoint by the court, not a gang of guys... there should have been a police esscort... (this was according to a news report on ITV prior to his death, on how it would take place)

I think what we are seeing is a fake video...

Here's How the procedure should have gone - Hanging Procedure
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Additionally, prior to an execution, the condemned offender's file is reviewed to determine if there are any unusual characteristics the offender possesses that might warrant deviation from field instructions on hanging. A physical examination and measuring process is conducted to assure almost instant death and a minimum of bruising. If careful measuring and planning is not done, strangulation, obstructed blood flow, or beheading could result. At the appropriate time on execution day, the inmate, in restraints, is escorted to the gallows area and is placed standing over a hinged trap door from which the offender will be dropped. Following the offender's last statement, a hood is placed over the offender's head. Restraints are also applied. If the offender refuses to stand or cannot stand, he is placed on a collapse board. A determination of the proper amount of the drop of the condemned offender through the trap door is calculated using a standard military execution chart for hanging. The "drop" must be based on the prisoner's weight, to deliver 1260 foot_pounds of force to the neck. The noose is then placed snugly around the convict's neck, behind his or her left ear, which will cause the neck to snap. The trap door then opens, and the convict drops. If properly done, death is caused by dislocation of the third and fourth cervical vertebrae, or by asphyxiation. A button mechanically releases the trap door and escorts then move to the lower floor location to assist in the removal of the offender's body.


You know what? I'm not touching this with a ninety foot pole.

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Reason I say this is Saddam was so Brash and loud throught court, yet at the execution he said nothing he kept his mouth closed, his teeth or voice could have given away his true identity...
Well, he was about to die of course he was quiet. Before he had a chance. Furthermore, he did talk.

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I often go with my gut feeling and some thing felt wrong about the whole thing...
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Reason I say this is Saddam was so Brash and loud throught court, yet at the execution he said nothing he kept his mouth closed, his teeth or voice could have given away his true identity...


umm...watch the video again...he did speak.
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I didn't say that! Stop putting words in my mouth.
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