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Title: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 01:23:37 AM
QuoteFriends-

What is Facebook thinking? They've signed on in support of CISPA -- the new bill that would obliterate online privacy, give the military crazy new abilities to spy on the Internet, and potentially let ISPs block sites and cut off users accused of piracy.

The Center for Democracy and Technology says, "CISPA has a very broad, almost unlimited definition of the information that can be shared with government agencies and it supersedes all other privacy laws."
According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation:

An ISP could even interpret this bill as allowing them to block accounts believed to be infringing, block access to websites like The Pirate Bay believed to carry infringing content, or take other measures provided they claimed it was motivated by cybersecurity concerns.

Internet users were able to push GoDaddy to withdraw its support of SOPA. Now it's time to make sure Facebook knows we're furious.

Please tell Facebook to withdraw its support for CISPA. Just click here:

http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/cispa_facebook/?referring_akid=a5614276.468733.rw8Hrn&source=auto-taf

Thanks!

Copied from an email I recieved.  Do what you will. 
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Holkeye on April 13, 2012, 01:25:18 AM
Yeah, its bullshit. If they don't overturn their support within the next 48 hours, I'm deleting my account.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 01:36:02 AM
Quote from: Kevin on April 13, 2012, 01:25:18 AM
Yeah, its bullshit. If they don't overturn their support within the next 48 hours, I'm deleting my account.

Sadly, I don't think enough people in the world would do that because of this.  Really, I also don't see a petition doing much good either.  They have less care for their users than anywhere else that I've seen.  Hell, even with a good chunk of people bitching about the new timeline shit they rolled out, they still pushed it through.  If they overturn their support, I'll be amazed.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Holkeye on April 13, 2012, 01:39:14 AM
I won't be one of them.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 01:45:46 AM
God-damn this bullshit. I use facebook for my art commisions, but if FB doesn't overturn, I'm switchin' to Twitter.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: tSwitch on April 13, 2012, 01:46:36 AM
Google+ anyone?

I'm still not convinced that CISPA really affects file-sharing at all, honestly.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 01:52:28 AM
I've got a Google+ account already and rarely use it but I may start.  I also have a twitter and I can just use my deviantart account for all my art and photos so the only thing that will suck about deleting my fb account is all the friends I'll lose contact with.  Other than that, fuck it.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 01:54:05 AM
That's the reason for Twitter, that and I like the easy-connect with it, so...

...yeah. Twitter's next on my list. I like my Kongregate account and it's useful for SendSpace and Photobucket, too.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 01:57:51 AM
Quote from: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 01:54:05 AM
That's the reason for Twitter, that and I like the easy-connect with it, so...

...yeah. Twitter's next on my list. I like my Kongregate account and it's useful for SendSpace and Photobucket, too.

I'm not a big fan of twitter personally but I do most of my fb posts through twitter from my phone lol

I found a list of all companies that support CISPA.

http://intelligence.house.gov/hr-3523-letters-support

AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon

I'm gonna tell my girlfriend (or suggest and beg I guess) to just stop paying her AT&T bill and screw the disconnect fee.  Not like she doesn't have a Sprint phone anyway...having two phones is retarded either way lol.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 02:13:48 AM
Oh my god, that's a lot of companies.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 13, 2012, 02:17:10 AM
Really, none of those listed companies are much of a surprise at all.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 02:18:26 AM
Quote from: Kevin O on April 13, 2012, 02:17:10 AM
Really, none of those listed companies are much of a surprise at all.

nope, not really much of a surprise at all.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 02:30:54 AM
It's not that.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 13, 2012, 02:35:09 AM
Quote from: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 02:30:54 AM
It's not that.

Well, if it's the length of the list that surprised you, SOPA had the support of over 350 companies. Just, you know, something to think about. ;)
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 02:40:58 AM
We need to figure out a way to advertise to everyone to vote with their wallet and stop supporting these companies until they drop support...or I do at least lol.

And I need to find a good argument to get my girlfriend to drop her phone for a month or two lol.  She just doesn't want to lose her fancy new phone rofl.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 02:47:27 AM
Show her the bill and what it'd do. That would probably do something.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 02:48:56 AM
I told her it was another SOPA.  That was enough to get her to want to drop her FB account but she really really really loves her phone lol
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 13, 2012, 03:01:22 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 02:48:56 AM
I told her it was another SOPA.  That was enough to get her to want to drop her FB account but she really really really loves her phone lol
Well, are you going to stop using Microsoft Windows? ;)
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
*never once paid for windows*
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 13, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
*never once paid for windows*
Really? Never bought a new computer with Windows already installed on it? Because if so, you paid for the license to use it whether you realize it or not. If not, then... bravo, sir. Bravo.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 03:13:58 AM
Quote from: Kevin O on April 13, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
*never once paid for windows*
Really? Never bought a new computer with Windows already installed on it? Because if so, you paid for the license to use it whether you realize it or not. If not, then... bravo, sir. Bravo.

I build my computers.  I got windows xp for free from a friend who was switching to linux.  Windows 7...not so much lol
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 13, 2012, 03:18:32 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:13:58 AM
Quote from: Kevin O on April 13, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
*never once paid for windows*
Really? Never bought a new computer with Windows already installed on it? Because if so, you paid for the license to use it whether you realize it or not. If not, then... bravo, sir. Bravo.

I build my computers.  I got windows xp for free from a friend who was switching to linux.  Windows 7...not so much lol

:golfclap:

Use various flavors of Linux most of the time, personally, but using Windows 7 at the moment almost entirely for RMVX (since it was less than lovely running through WINE). Before that, I used a Mac or whatever my parents bought me (which was Windows XP at the time).

Still, for anyone else who didn't know that about the Windows license, it's an interesting thing to note. ;)
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 03:20:31 AM
Damn, I wish I had my mom's terrabyte computer. She had that thing hand-made at home, liscense and everything, and DAMN was that sucker fast!
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Lethrface on April 13, 2012, 03:26:29 AM
Quote from: Kevin O on April 13, 2012, 03:18:32 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:13:58 AM
Quote from: Kevin O on April 13, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
*never once paid for windows*
Really? Never bought a new computer with Windows already installed on it? Because if so, you paid for the license to use it whether you realize it or not. If not, then... bravo, sir. Bravo.

I build my computers.  I got windows xp for free from a friend who was switching to linux.  Windows 7...not so much lol

:golfclap:

Use various flavors of Linux most of the time, personally, but using Windows 7 at the moment almost entirely for RMVX (since it was less than lovely running through WINE). Before that, I used a Mac or whatever my parents bought me (which was Windows XP at the time).

Still, for anyone else who didn't know that about the Windows license, it's an interesting thing to note. ;)

It is very good info, especially for those who don't really know much about computers.

Quote from: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 03:20:31 AM
Damn, I wish I had my mom's terrabyte computer. She had that thing hand-made at home, liscense and everything, and DAMN was that sucker fast!

I keep hearing about these really good computers and get jealous cuz my computer isn't even average anymore and is in fact, below average with it's dual core processor, 2 gigs of ram and radeon hd 4350 graphics card.  I'm not too worried, though.  It does what all I want it to do.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
I wanted it because it had a free Windows 7 liscense on it [which was completely boss] and it could hold a crapton of files.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: jomarcenter on April 15, 2012, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: Steven W on April 13, 2012, 01:57:51 AM
Quote from: Revtattertot on April 13, 2012, 01:54:05 AM
That's the reason for Twitter, that and I like the easy-connect with it, so...

...yeah. Twitter's next on my list. I like my Kongregate account and it's useful for SendSpace and Photobucket, too.

I'm not a big fan of twitter personally but I do most of my fb posts through twitter from my phone lol

I found a list of all companies that support CISPA.

http://intelligence.house.gov/hr-3523-letters-support

AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon

I'm gonna tell my girlfriend (or suggest and beg I guess) to just stop paying her AT&T bill and screw the disconnect fee.  Not like she doesn't have a Sprint phone anyway...having two phones is retarded either way lol.
that is so much to boycott...
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Revtattertot on April 15, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
It'd work, though.
Title: Re: Facebook shows support of CISPA
Post by: Rief on April 15, 2012, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Drew on April 13, 2012, 01:46:36 AM
Google+ anyone?

I'm still not convinced that CISPA really affects file-sharing at all, honestly.

Well, i have my Google+, but since noone uses it, nothing happens
i would love to use it more...