Dee dee durr time for the fanboy to go on about Apple must bash Apple deedurrdum aint revolushun.
I'll only talk about what I remember and want to talk about.
"Retina Display"
IPS, 4x the pixels, 326 PPI, 960x640, the highest pixel density and resolution on a phone, ever.
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Opinion:
It's resolutionary. :V Looks absolutely beautiful from what I've seen, though I (obviously) haven't seen it in person. That's a pretty damn nice display.
HD Video
"Because your iPhone goes with you everywhere, you're always ready to capture every moment. And with iPhone 4, you can do it in stunning high definition. Its advanced backside illumination sensor delivers great-looking video in both bright and low-light settings. And in dark environments, you can brighten the scene with the built-in LED light."
Tap the object on screen you want to focus on. Focus.
Share it on Youtube, MMS, and MobileMe.
Opinion:
I haven't seen the 720p video, so not much to say. I'd use it, and if it looks good, good.
iMovie
Edit HD video on a phone, like on a computer. Resize clips, insert clips, add transitions, add titles and text, add music, and share your videos.
Opinion:
Editing HD video on a phone? And it actually looks pretty good? (looks better than wmm) I'd rather edit on a computer, obviously, but I can see me using this for video I recorded on the phone when I'm not around my computer. It looks fairly simple to use, yet the final products look great.
Gyroscope
There's a gyroscope in the phone.
Opinion:
HOLY FUCK THERE'S A Cthulhu DAMN GYROSCOPE THIS THING IS LIKE A FUCKING SIX AXIS CONTROLLER AND STEVE JOBS WAS PLAYING SOME BIZARRE JENGA SHIT AND HE WAS TURNING AROUND FUCK YEAH
Camera
The camera is better.
These are pictures:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/01-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/01-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/02-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/02-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/03-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/03-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/04-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/04-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/05-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/05-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/06-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/06-20100607.jpg)
http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/06-20100607.jpg (http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/includes/camera-gallery/06-20100607.jpg)
Opinion:
Those are pretty damn good pictures for being a camera the size of a pin, and it's on a phone. I would use this.
Design
The iPhone 4 is an object, and it reflects and absorbs light.
The frame is made of stainless steel, and the front and back of glass used in FUCKING HELICOPTERS AND TRAINS. Plus, the frame is actually acts antennas, so you get an extra amount of radiation in your hand. :v
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Opinion:
The black iPhone 4 is gorgeous-- the most beautiful man made object I've ever seen. The white one can go suck a cock because it looks like shit.
[fright](https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.apple.com%2Fiphone%2Ffeatures%2Fimages%2Ffacetime-hero-right-20100607.png&hash=7adda18ade2d78ee2bbd9758b3f5423890d599d3)[/fright]Face Time
Face to face calls, video conferences, flip between the front camera and the back camera.
Opinion:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I can't see myself ever making video calls, at least not in the near future. I think some people will enjoy this, but I won't exactly be using it any time soon.
THE END
It looks nice, though saying a apple product looks nice is redundant.
Though i'm wondering about the camera, will it just "look" HD when played on the iPhone, or will it still be able to be played on your computer at 1280x720
No, the video is true 1280x720. I'm more concerned with how the picture is, though you can't expect too much out of a camera that tiny.
I still find it funny how "revolutionary" and "new" they claim it all is, when pretty much every single feature has been done before, often for years.
I wasn't going to get an iPhone, but my brother's iPod touch fucking broke.
I'll still probably get a Droid, though.
Quote from: Roph on June 08, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
I still find it funny how "revolutionary" and "new" they claim it all is, when pretty much every single feature has been done before, often for years.
I don't recall Steve even saying "revolutionary" or "new" (unless used in the context as a new feature for the iPhone) once during the keynote.
What are they claiming to be the first to do, other than having the highest resolution in a phone, ever? I'm assuming you mean first, since "revolutionary" has nothing to do with being first at something. They are however claiming that video conferencing on phones will change the way we communicate, and I'm sure a lot of phones will try to follow in Apple's footsteps on this, as they often seem to do, whether they're first or not.
Nobody buys a product because it's revolutionary or new; they a product because they like it.
They've got really small data capacity though, so you'll need to have it nearly empty if you wanted to record HD videos. =/
Edit: And what's a gyroscope, and why does a phone need one? ;o
Most point and shoot "pocket" HD video recorders like the Flip Mino HD and Creative Vado only have a few gigs of storage space on them. The iPhone has 16 or 32 gigs. I only use like 7 on my iPod Touch, so there's plenty of space for what it is. It's not something you'd shoot a movie with.
QuoteEdit: And what's a gyroscope, and why does a phone need one? ;o
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope
This raises the iPhone's motion sensing up to six axises and makes things a bit more accurate. This is useful for gaming, just like the accelerometer is.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORcu-c-qnjg[/yt]
the coolest part about that whole post was the gyroscope.
Still no SD card slot. No thanks. 16GB of memory does not cost $100. Not even a third of that.
Still forced into the walled garden of the app store. No Thanks. I want to run apps I want to use, not what apple says I can use.
No flash. No thanks. Given the choice, I want flash support online.
Still carrier locked. No thanks. I don't want a contract or to have my choice of carrier forced upon me.
Still bathed in DRM, artificial limitations, anti competitive practices and censorship. No, no thanks.
The pixel comparisons have also been demonstrably faked, by as much as double what is possible in reality.
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http://gawker.com/5558442/how-apple-tricks-you
I'd choose and recommend an android device if I thought I needed a smartphone, possibly a G4.
Thanks for sharing your reasons for not wanting an iPhone 4, Roph! Only one of those is an issue for me. 16 gigs is enough for everything I'd ever want on a phone, I'm willing to actually pay for applications, never need or want flash (especially since it's garbage on phones), don't know of any useless artificial limitations anti-competitive practices or censorship.
The only issue is that it's only on one carrier. I would love to see it expand to another, which would only give more options and grow the iPhone's market share even more. Perhaps then people like me who are stuck with one carrier would be able to get the iPhone. :]
You really love Apple, don't you, Cory? P:
Cory Finite Loop Martin.
Finite because he can't see beyond Apple. ZING!
I kid. Cupertino is nice, though. I think palo alto is nicer, but I'd imagine that has a lot to do with Standford. Pretty cities, in general.
I do like the redesign. Any word on when these will become itouches?
Nah, there wasn't any word on the iPod Touch. But they usually make iPod announcements in (I think) September.
Yeah, cool.
Can't wait for that! Been waiting for them to make a remodeled iphone/touch for a while now.
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lol at gizmodo.
"Retina Display." God how I hate buzzwords and business jargon. I hate it when companies create buzzwords for something that would otherwise be called by exactly what it is, "high resolution," in this case. But that kind of gives the impression that the older models have "lower resolution," which is bad, so they say it has "retina display," this incredible new feature that makes everything look better so you must get this new model.
@Irock: I'm flaming a general practice, broksi. ;)
People only browse 4chan to catch a glimpse of CP before the mods "wake up" and take it down. It's the shit hole of the internet, and you should feel bad for going there.
edit: This has nothing to do with Apple. I just don't like 4chan, or people who bring track its dirt into RMRK.
oh baww ads on free aps.
big whoop, it just means that people can get more apps for free and the developers can make money without having to charge for it.
what would RMRK be without Ads Roph?
Roph doesn't want to see ads and Roph doesn't want to pay for applications. Roph personally blocks the ads on RMRK therefor Apple shouldn't come out with an ad service and ads shouldn't be in applications.
I don't like the iPhone or much of Apples products for the same reasons as most other people, such as Roph, but I believe it's about damn time they made the back flat. Jesus christ the fucking convex was stupid.
Just half on/off topic, i never understood why apple products are so expensive.
Looking at the site, £913 for the basic 13" mac book pro with a duel core, 4 gig of ram, 320gb HDD and Nvidia 320m.
All mediocre parts with a high price tag.
But for the almost the same specs (Larger screen and Hard Drive, though a Nvidia 310m) For half the price as a windows laptop.
Because Apple hates you and doesn't want anyone to buy their products.
This isn't turning into another stupid Apple price argument.
I'm not trying to say "LOL APPLE SUCKS", i just don't understand there pricing.
It's true; hackintoshes are still much cheaper than the official builds, and they are just as stable if you build them properly.
EXcept you're not going to build your own iphone as easily lol.
Quote from: Link on June 11, 2010, 07:37:34 PM
I'm not trying to say "LOL APPLE SUCKS", i just don't understand there pricing.
as opposed to 'here pricing'?
I guess this is going to turn into something totally off topic.
People pay for something if they feel the money they're exchanging is worth what they're getting. If a company has something that people are buying, and there're a good market who thinks that company makes better products, the company can go ahead and make the prices higher, as long as people are willing to pay for it. If Apple raised the prices too high, they wouldn't be making a lot of money.
With Macs, You're getting OS X with no EULA violations or need to go through a (from what I hear) tedious installation process. you're getting Apple's award winning customer support and repair coverage, and you're getting unmatched build quality. In addition to that, with the laptops you're getting little things like the magsafe... thing, backlit keyboard, bluetooth, and bigger things like a really nice battery, multi-touch trackpad, and the system will also seamlessly switch to and from integrated graphics on the fly to conserve battery life.
Macs aren't right for everyone, but they're worth it to many. I'm willing to pay for an iMac in the future because I love OS X, the build quality is excellent, the displays are beautiful, and I won't need a tower with a million cords running everywhere.
Also, I don't think iPhones are really expensive when compared to other multi-touch smartphones.
price is a moot point, as "worth it" is a relative term.
I think Arlen said it best the LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED.
The displays are beautiful; I always love looking at them in Fry's. Shame they cost so much. ;.;
I don't remember what I said the LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED.
this (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,37553.msg441484.html#msg441484) is what you said the LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED.
by the LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED I mean the last time people went DERP DERP APPLE DERP DERP PRICE MEANS IT'S CRAP
If I had the money for a 27in iMac, I would definitely buy it over a similarly priced windows PC.
Sigh, for once id like an apple topic that doesn't turn out like this... Oh well...
I want to see the gyroscope inside the phone, how the hell does that shit work.