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Title: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: tSwitch on February 12, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/11/health.hiv.stemcell/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular

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Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: madriel222 on February 12, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
I find it ironic that we dump millions of dollars into HIV/AIDS research and an effective treatment comes out of an accident (or at least not on purpose).  Great find, haven't seen that one before.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: tSwitch on February 12, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: madriel222 on February 12, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
I find it ironic that we dump millions of dollars into HIV/AIDS research and an effective treatment comes out of an accident (or at least not on purpose).  Great find, haven't seen that one before.

it's stem cells though.
it'll never be widely used.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: modern algebra on February 12, 2009, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on February 12, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: madriel222 on February 12, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
I find it ironic that we dump millions of dollars into HIV/AIDS research and an effective treatment comes out of an accident (or at least not on purpose).  Great find, haven't seen that one before.

it's stem cells though.
it'll never be widely used.

Adult stem cells though, not embryonic. Nobody has a problem with adult stem cells.

But yeah, it's a risky procedure. Must be totally awesome for that guy though.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: SirJackRex on February 12, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
That's pretty damn sweet. Although, yeah, they won't gain any heavy usage, for probably a LONG time.

Quote from: Modern Algebra on February 12, 2009, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on February 12, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: madriel222 on February 12, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
I find it ironic that we dump millions of dollars into HIV/AIDS research and an effective treatment comes out of an accident (or at least not on purpose).  Great find, haven't seen that one before.

it's stem cells though.
it'll never be widely used.

Adult stem cells though, not embryonic. Nobody has a problem with adult stem cells.

But yeah, it's a risky procedure. Must be totally awesome for that guy though.

Aren't they gathered from your mouth? Much safer than babies... =x
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: MrMoo on February 12, 2009, 09:30:32 PM
I think they come from bone marrow. And if I recall, adult stem cells are different than baby ones, because embryo stem cells can create any human tissue. Adult stem cells are specific to certain parts of the body.
Either way, this is great news for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: tSwitch on February 12, 2009, 10:30:09 PM
not really, Moo
it's a very risky treatment if you read the whole article.
it's not likely to be widespread
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Holkeye on February 13, 2009, 04:23:06 AM
Risky cure for HIV vs. impending AIDS and death...

Gee, I wonder which one I would choose.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: modern algebra on February 13, 2009, 04:31:33 AM
Quote from: Holk on February 13, 2009, 04:23:06 AM
Risky cure for HIV vs. impending AIDS and death...

Gee, I wonder which one I would choose.

I'd probably choose impending AIDS and death, actually. After all, people can be HIV+ for years and years without it becoming AIDS, whereas 33% chance of immediate death ~ that's high.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Holkeye on February 13, 2009, 04:34:14 AM
Yeah, but a life where people alienate you because you have a disease that nobody understands. Fuck AIDS, I'd take the treatment.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: modern algebra on February 13, 2009, 04:39:36 AM
Well, you don't have to go around telling everyone. And with 2.7 million new infections every year, not many do. Though I can understand choosing either route.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: codemeister1990 on February 13, 2009, 05:37:34 AM
lots of inventions and medicine is made by accident
I know rubber was an accident as an example.
Just makes you question what the money you donate is really doing
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Sophist on February 13, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
I bet that bro is like "FUCK MAN I CAN TAKE ON THE WORLD"


Cure for AIDS found, next is Cancer and after that we should look for a cure for stupidity. :I
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: tSwitch on February 13, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: Holk on February 13, 2009, 04:23:06 AM
Risky cure for HIV vs. impending AIDS and death...

Gee, I wonder which one I would choose.

it won't be widespread because people will see the treatment as unethical.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Sophist on February 13, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on February 13, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: Holk on February 13, 2009, 04:23:06 AM
Risky cure for HIV vs. impending AIDS and death...

Gee, I wonder which one I would choose.

it won't be widespread because people will see the treatment as unethical.


The only widely viewed unethical treatment with stem cells is from embryonic stem cells, not from adult cells.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: tSwitch on February 13, 2009, 11:33:00 PM
Quote from: Anski on February 13, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
The only widely viewed unethical treatment with stem cells is from embryonic stem cells, not from adult cells.

not the stem cell part.
the 33% risk of death part.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: ahref on February 14, 2009, 02:47:48 AM
lol glycoproteins :P
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Jonesy on February 14, 2009, 09:26:42 AM
I'm too lazy to read the article, is this a cure for HIV only, or full-blown AIDS?
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: ahref on February 14, 2009, 03:50:48 PM
sigh HIV causes AIDS. so without HIV, AIDS is nothing more than a defficiency of white blood cells which can be made again :P.

This "treatment" mutates the white blood cells so HIV cant get into them.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: Jonesy on February 14, 2009, 08:27:46 PM
Aha, I didn't actually know that, but it makes sense, and I recall it from the depth of my mind.

In that case it's an amazing discovery, I wonder at what point the treatment becomes ineffective. Otherwise, one could wait until their last year and get the treatment.
Title: Re: Man cured of HIV after stem cell treatment.
Post by: the_mantic on February 15, 2009, 09:45:41 AM
Wow. This is huge. This disease went from virtually non-existent in my parent's youth, to prominence slightly before I was born, to near epidemic in my lifetime, and finally a case has been cured.