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Title: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Link on November 24, 2008, 04:14:06 PM
 I was just wondering, which CPU do you think is best? I dont care about the fact AMD is cheaper just which is better?

the last CPU i had was the Intel 2.4ghz core 2 quad Q6600
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: tSwitch on November 24, 2008, 04:32:48 PM
an AMD Dual Core 2.0ghz processor is the equivalent of an Intel Dual Core 2.4ghz on a lot of game system requirements.

if that means anything.
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Roph on November 24, 2008, 05:08:00 PM
Uh what

You can't just say "An AMD dual core" or "an intel dual core". A Pentium D (dual core) at 4Ghz will be outperformed by a wolfdale core2 duo (dual core) that runs at 2Ghz.

Similarly a Phenom X2 (not released yet, though) at 3Ghz will outperform an Athlon X2 that runs at 3Ghz.

It all comes down to IPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_Per_Cycle).


Your Q6660 is a (65nm) quad core that runs at 2.4Ghz. A 65nm Phenom X4 9950 which runs at 2.6Ghz will perform about the same as it.

The Phenom II is coming out soon, which is both runs faster and has a higher IPC, and will be the best CPU for the price in my opinion. Intel has a new architecture out called Nehalem, and these are the "Core i7" cpus, but they're super expensive, plus you'll also need a new motherboard, memory and so on to use them.

A Q6600 should be fine till like 2010 at least, CPUs aren't the performance bottleneck in games anymore, your video card is.

If I was building new I'd go for AMD and get a socket AM3+ setup with a Phenom II in it. But since you're on intel and socket 775 you'd have to go for a new 45nm quad core to get better performance. Just keep your Q6600 and overclock it =o
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ahref on November 24, 2008, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: Roph on November 24, 2008, 05:08:00 PM
Uh what

You can't just say "An AMD dual core" or "an intel dual core". A Pentium D (dual core) at 4Ghz will be outperformed by a wolfdale core2 duo (dual core) that runs at 2Ghz.

Similarly a Phenom X2 (not released yet, though) at 3Ghz will outperform an Athlon X2 that runs at 3Ghz.

It all comes down to IPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_Per_Cycle).


Your Q6660 is a (65nm) quad core that runs at 2.4Ghz. A 65nm Phenom X4 9950 which runs at 2.6Ghz will perform about the same as it.

The Phenom II is coming out soon, which is both runs faster and has a higher IPC, and will be the best CPU for the price in my opinion. Intel has a new architecture out called Nehalem, and these are the "Core i7" cpus, but they're super expensive, plus you'll also need a new motherboard, memory and so on to use them.

A Q6600 should be fine till like 2010 at least, CPUs aren't the performance bottleneck in games anymore, your video card is.

If I was building new I'd go for AMD and get a socket AM3+ setup with a Phenom II in it. But since you're on intel and socket 775 you'd have to go for a new 45nm quad core to get better performance. Just keep your Q6600 and overclock it =o

you should say numbers and letters that make little sense more oftern its somehow pacifing.

I had some guy the other day who commented on his processor being better because it was 2.1ghz and my laptop is 2.0ghz. I pointed out that his was a centrino and not a dual core.

Is it me or do you see more AMDs on the cheaper or refurbished computers?
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Link on November 25, 2008, 06:46:07 AM
Quote from: Roph on November 24, 2008, 05:08:00 PM
Uh what

You can't just say "An AMD dual core" or "an intel dual core". A Pentium D (dual core) at 4Ghz will be outperformed by a wolfdale core2 duo (dual core) that runs at 2Ghz.

Similarly a Phenom X2 (not released yet, though) at 3Ghz will outperform an Athlon X2 that runs at 3Ghz.

It all comes down to IPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_Per_Cycle).


Your Q6660 is a (65nm) quad core that runs at 2.4Ghz. A 65nm Phenom X4 9950 which runs at 2.6Ghz will perform about the same as it.

The Phenom II is coming out soon, which is both runs faster and has a higher IPC, and will be the best CPU for the price in my opinion. Intel has a new architecture out called Nehalem, and these are the "Core i7" cpus, but they're super expensive, plus you'll also need a new motherboard, memory and so on to use them.

A Q6600 should be fine till like 2010 at least, CPUs aren't the performance bottleneck in games anymore, your video card is.

If I was building new I'd go for AMD and get a socket AM3+ setup with a Phenom II in it. But since you're on intel and socket 775 you'd have to go for a new 45nm quad core to get better performance. Just keep your Q6600 and overclock it =o


ill just stick a big ass fan on the top and Overclock it to 3.3 or something :3
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Crankeye on December 11, 2008, 11:28:26 PM
Currently, in my opinion the intel architecture is leading the game. Currently I would recommend the Intel core i7 extreme 965. Intel's current architecture is blowing AMD out of the water. The new architecture supports faster memory access, hyper threading, support for both graphics vendors, etc. Have a look at this article from CNET to get a better picture: http://reviews.cnet.com/processors/intel-core-i7-965/4505-3086_7-33366836.html .

I'm just waiting to see what AMD's big plans are to catch back up.  :)
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: :) on December 11, 2008, 11:52:14 PM
crankeye get out of here  :mad:

Or stay :D
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ShadowOD on December 16, 2008, 09:52:38 PM
AMD can run more things. Intel is faster.  Simple terms really =]

I'd go AMD =D
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Holkeye on December 17, 2008, 01:13:03 AM
lol, what? I don't know anything about computers, and I know that you're wrong.
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 02:53:56 PM
We can argue all day. Its true =] 

Our tutor said so lol!
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 02:53:56 PM
We can argue all day. Its true =] 

Our tutor said so lol!

of course your tutor is an expert in computers, yes?
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
Yes 'coz I'm studing Computer Engineering =]

He just said, AMD can handle more things at once, while Intel is proven to be slightly faster.

Thats what I'm quoting on  :blizj:
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
can handle more things at once, meaning multiple processes, right?
as opposed to "can run more things" which sounds more like certain programs only work on AMD processors.
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: Link on December 17, 2008, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
Yes 'coz I'm studing Computer Engineering =]

He just said, AMD can handle more things at once, while Intel is proven to be slightly faster.

Thats what I'm quoting on  :blizj:

Though the new i7 improves upon both of these?
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on December 17, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
can handle more things at once, meaning multiple processes, right?
as opposed to "can run more things" which sounds more like certain programs only work on AMD processors.

Multiple Process indeed.   Not sure about certain programs thought.

The i7 is bound to be better. COnsidering it just been released and is mainly for DDR3
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ahref on December 18, 2008, 12:34:50 AM
QuoteCOnsidering it just been released

new doesnt mean good. see vista for more information.
Title: Re: AMD or Intel?
Post by: ShadowOD on December 18, 2008, 07:42:07 PM
LMAO!!!!!

You have a solid point there manz. Kudos.

Well i7 apparently is the way forward for the new era.   :blizj: