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Title: Linux?
Post by: tSwitch on February 21, 2007, 06:52:47 PM
I'm getting a macBook when I go to college, and I love OSX
but I know people who use Linux and love it's customizability

what I want to know, what is so damn good about Linux
(I've been hearing it sucks for ages)
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: Roph on February 21, 2007, 07:01:28 PM
Well, it being free is the main one.

Doing stuff that's retardedly simple on windows is sometimes ridiculously complicated and tedious for linux, but if you're into that stuff, good on you =/.

http://articles.eliasalucard.com/linux_is_pointless.xhtml
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: tSwitch on February 21, 2007, 09:47:54 PM
wow that site's gay.
won't let me on becuase I don't have Firefox

QuoteThis site is intentionally coded to not work with Internet Explorer 6 by strictly complying to the latest W3C recommended XHTML web standards, of which Internet Explorer 7 does not support. I have also blocked your browser from further access to this site. The reason is simple: your browser is shit. Stop being an idiot and change to a better browser for your own safety.

I don't have firefox because my parents are download nazis and because invisionfree images don't show up on Firefox.

can you just post the info off of the site here?
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: Roph on February 21, 2007, 09:52:45 PM
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Linux developers claim that Linux is the best operating system in the world.
I say: Linux is completely pointless. There are thousands of Linux distros
available (I've lost count) free of charge, and no one is using any of 'em.
What's the point? There's barely any difference between these distros; most
of them do the same stupid shit and barely differ from each other in terms
of functionality. Why make all these shitty distros no one will use?



Instead of making a reduntant amount of worthless crap, why not combine your
efforts and make one good operating system only? That being said, Linux is
just quantity. Seriously. Every kind of software application Linux has to
offer is available on Windows or Mac OS X, and more often than not, it's
superior on Windows. There's nothing unique about Linux except being open
source, and supposedly more "secure" than closed source.



Speaking of security, Linux isn't secure either. It's just that no one
is using it. Ergo, no one cares about attacking Linux. I don't count the 3%
usage share it has right now as a user base; such a low usage share is not notable.
If you have no users, then you also have no security issues as a direct result of
lacking potential victims.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: bulls84 on February 21, 2007, 09:54:28 PM
A lot of people I know say Linux is amazing so it can't be all bad, right?
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: tSwitch on February 21, 2007, 09:59:47 PM
yeah that's what I've been getting from some people
(both of them)
what I'm really looking for is a look at what features Linux has
from an unbaised source (if that's possible nowadays)
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: Roph on February 21, 2007, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: NAMKCOR on February 21, 2007, 09:59:47 PM
yeah that's what I've been getting from some people
(both of them)
what I'm really looking for is a look at what features Linux has
from an unbaised source (if that's possible nowadays)
Linux is the kernel. From this, you have literally hundreds of linux based OSes.

So there is so single set of features for "linux", you'd have to specify a distro, such as Gentoo or Ubuntu (seem to be the two most popular desktop distros).

Though like that blog says, with them being linux OSes, your choice of applications is severly limited. You can also look forward to such things as an inability to play even mp3s or view flash on the web without installing extra stuff (see next paragraph re: installing stuff :P ) and no games.

With all major distros, including the "easy to use" ubuntu (boasts that it's the most easy to use :lol:) you'd better get used to using the terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_line_interface) to do even some very trivial basic things.

I have two installs of ubuntu sitting in two little partitions on my drive. One I killed while trying to install graphics card drivers (it's nothing like, say, just downloading a file and running it, like on windows), and the other works, but does nothing but collect dust and take up space.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: tSwitch on February 23, 2007, 01:45:06 PM
thanks for the informantion.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: Mushroom Panda on March 18, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
I just have to add this:

I have 3 Linux boxes (Gentoo, Ubuntu, and Fedora 5), and I have come to LOVE Linux.

If you love Mac OS X, why not just get Linux on a white Vaio that would cost you $300 less than a Macbook and customize it so it looks and acts like OS X? Sure it takes some time, and is difficult as hell to install shit onto Linux, it's worth it! Free, $300 left in your pocket (because you got a prettier and better notebook than a Macbook) and bragging rights that "I HAVE LINUX, IT LOOKS LIKE OS X, AND I SAVED MONEY IN THE PROCESS!"

BTW. I have a Dell crap-tastic notebook that runs Gentoo Linux under KDE that looks exactly and acts ~90% or so like Mac OS X. My friends are all jealous because my notebook runs about 6 times faster than their Macbook PRO that they wasted $2,000 on, where I paid $500 for my MacLinuxDell.

Linux for life...

And if you want RPG Maker XP for Linux, use WinE. It works perfectly on all of my Linux and UNIX systems.

Haven't tried OS X with it yet.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: SirJackRex on April 06, 2007, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: Silverline on February 21, 2007, 09:52:45 PM
Quote
Linux developers claim that Linux is the best operating system in the world.
I say: Linux is completely pointless. There are thousands of Linux distros
available (I've lost count) free of charge, and no one is using any of 'em.
What's the point? There's barely any difference between these distros; most
of them do the same stupid shit and barely differ from each other in terms
of functionality. Why make all these shitty distros no one will use?



Instead of making a reduntant amount of worthless crap, why not combine your
efforts and make one good operating system only? That being said, Linux is
just quantity. Seriously. Every kind of software application Linux has to
offer is available on Windows or Mac OS X, and more often than not, it's
superior on Windows. There's nothing unique about Linux except being open
source, and supposedly more "secure" than closed source.



Speaking of security, Linux isn't secure either. It's just that no one
is using it. Ergo, no one cares about attacking Linux. I don't count the 3%
usage share it has right now as a user base; such a low usage share is not notable.
If you have no users, then you also have no security issues as a direct result of
lacking potential victims.

That's not true, Linux is very easy and it's impossible* to get viruses on. I would take a non virus computer over crappy windows any day. I lost lots of very important stuff on windows.

Ubuntu is extremely sweet, and that fact that it gives you a dead list of things that will work, and update it and install it for you, now that's the lazy mans linux. But there is a downside to it, it's not like most Linuxes where you don't need the driver software for dvd players or burners etc..., you have to something else. But it's still a lot cheaper than the 50 you're going to give up to windows. 

Linux is simple, all you need to know is how to work the terminal and everything shall go as planned. And you only need basic terminal knowledge at that.

The distorts have enough different things about them that people think of it as, if you will: a more open version and compatible version of windows.

Anyway, you can run most everything you would need on windows through WINE. And you can have a linux that's exactly like windows, just less viruses, only, it's a big thing to emulate. And I have seen it with my eyes, and it is just like windows. Only safer.

I use Windows and Linux on the same pc. Just different hard drivers. Linux isn't hard to use, it's just people who don't give a crap about learning simple commands like "mkdir" etc... that gives Linux the title "Hard". And underneath Mac, all it is, is a version of Linux. (That's True)

I like windows, it just doesn't like me...that's all. And see, Liinux does. Ubuntu is awesome, it's not really like every other one out there. There are like four different versions: Edbuntu, Ubuntu and I forget the others, but Ubuntu I use, and I don't think I could ever go back. Although I do like KDE. 

GIMP comes standard. I love GIMP!  :lol:

Anyway it's up to you. I think it would be best to try an ISO of Ubuntu and check it out. it's up there with SNES and the Wii.

*People don't have a need to make a virus for Linux. Linux=World Peace!

Ubuntu will let you run Flash as long as you have the player. (Flash Player, not maker) I Haven't looked into getting Macromedia Flash 8 on my Ubuntu, but I'm sure as hell WinE will do it. (WinE = Windows Emulator)

Yes, LINUX FOR LIFE!
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: Zeriab on April 07, 2007, 01:25:10 PM
I have a computer with Linux and there is no way it'll get a virus!
(I haven't turned it on the last 3 years >_>)

My experience with Linux have been that one have more freedom and therefore easier can alter it to one's preference.
It has also been my experience that Linux is easier to fuck up. Especially for computer-illiterate users.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: SirJackRex on April 07, 2007, 03:39:50 PM
I don't really think that last part was right. As long as you don't kill something without knowing what it is, I'm pretty sure you wont mess up anything.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: haloOfTheSun on April 07, 2007, 06:16:36 PM
If you're getting so many viruses all the time on Windows, maybe you just need to lay off the porn some. I haven't gotten a single virus in I don't know how long.
Title: Re: Linux?
Post by: SirJackRex on April 08, 2007, 04:43:01 AM
What? No, it's because I downloaded too many roms....  :( Well, not really, just liked to download stuff. Like off LimeWire, that's how I got the viruses, the last virus I got wasa like last year in the summer and it was maleware, errr, sick, sick sick sick people whom ever made Brave Sentry.