God and Hell.

Djangonator · December 08, 2006, 10:41:20 PM

I was under the impression that when Ragnarok happens...

Oh wait, it won't

SexualBubblegumX · December 08, 2006, 10:50:00 PM

Quote from: Djangonator on December 08, 2006, 10:41:20 PM
I was under the impression that when Ragnarok happens...

Oh wait, it won't

Okay thats it, once I'm dead I'm talking Odin into letting you into Valhalla. And I'm not doing it to be nice, I'll do it to piss you off.

Tsunokiette · December 08, 2006, 11:30:40 PM

Quote from: FuMannChu on December 08, 2006, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Djangonator on December 08, 2006, 10:41:20 PM
I was under the impression that when Ragnarok happens...

Oh wait, it won't

Okay thats it, once I'm dead I'm talking Odin into letting you into Valhalla. And I'm not doing it to be nice, I'll do it to piss you off.

I was under the impression that when Ragnarok happens (it won't) the gods will all get pawnt. So, no more thor....

SexualBubblegumX · December 09, 2006, 04:42:42 AM

Yes but because Jesus is Coward he'll get pwnt before I will. But I'll still get pwnt before the gods do. Also, the fact everything dies is what makes the Ragnarok kick total ass.

Roph · December 10, 2006, 03:43:13 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3326292852590673568&q

Failure, lol. In his "proof"for his religion, he uses doctrine from the religion he's trying to prove.

SexualBubblegumX · December 11, 2006, 12:05:56 AM

I'm still trying to figure if Silver will get Pwnt before or after I will.

Blizzard · December 11, 2006, 02:30:03 PM

Ragnarok can't be true. It says EXACTLY what will happen during the Ragnarok. This is ridiculious.

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 11, 2006, 02:53:31 PM

Quote from: Silverline on December 10, 2006, 03:43:13 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3326292852590673568&q

Failure, lol. In his "proof"for his religion, he uses doctrine from the religion he's trying to prove.

I don't think the universe was created, I think it was just... there.

Oh, and this guy pisses me off, I don't know why but he is annoying! He said alcohol was bad, but in some part Jesus turned water into wine... and he asked "who made gravity" I loled so hard! NOBODY MADE IT! Then he starts to joke about the bombs we dropped on japan... I want this bastard to die, NOW!!

He never says anything about dinosaurs, so the dinosaurs lived 6,000 years ago?

gonorrhea · December 11, 2006, 09:12:52 PM

Quote from: Tsunokiette@Zypher - If there is no God, why do people feel repulsed by the idea of a God and continue to argue against Him? If there really is not eternity it would be stupid to prove to someone God doesn't exist. It wouldn't matter in the long run.

It's a debate. It's meant to exercise you intellectually, show you various perspectives and challenge your perspective.
I'm repulsed by the idea of a god because so many people follow beliefs about gods, without evidence, just on pure faith in a fictitious being(s).

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 12:54:58 AM

he says that dinosaurs were around 4004 years ago, because the bible said so. Why is that something christens always go to?

Person A "who made the world?"
Person B "god"
Person A "how do you know this?"
Person B "the bible said so."

And this "debate" is going nowhere! We are basing our comebacks on what we believe! So instead of combacks that have to do with the person's views it the speaker's views.

Person A- Likes to throw apples a lizards
Person B- Thinks apples explode when they hit something

Person A " I'm going to hit a lizard with an apple"
Person B "but that will kill it."

Person B beleives something that makes it hard to see the other person's point. Tsunokiette is going on what the bible says and it is clouding what you are saying, and you are going on what you were taught and that clouds what he is saying. So in the end we are blind people trying to lead each other trough a fog.

Tsunokiette · December 12, 2006, 12:57:52 AM

....where are you again?

Well the old testament itself is chock full of factual recordings.

You have to remember, this wasn't something someone wrote down, it's something many people over 1000's of years recorded.

If more than half of the Bible is factual, why wouldn't the rest be?

*sigh* Ask for proof and I shall try to do better than last time lols.

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 01:02:23 AM

That really didn't have much to do with my post.

Tsunokiette · December 12, 2006, 01:10:39 AM

Quote from: BanisherOfEden on December 12, 2006, 01:02:23 AM
That really didn't have much to do with my post.

It doesn't?

I'm pretty sure you were saying that our judgement was being clouded by using our faith to debate. By me saying that the Bible is, in fact, factional, I am argueing against this.

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 01:14:02 AM

Oh, I see it did, But I was not going that far, If you look I also said it was clouding us from seeing your side. Not saying that it's clouding you from the truth, just clouding what they are saying.

And who did Adam's son marry, and who did their son/daughter marry? a rock? They were the only two humans.

haloOfTheSun · December 12, 2006, 01:19:57 AM

Rampant incest.

Tsunokiette · December 12, 2006, 01:24:43 AM

As I've said before, as abnormal as it is (but who are we to define what is normal?), many famous people throughout history practiced incest. Including Albert Einstein.

Also, family ties were viewed differently way back then.

There wasn't the "family" as we define it by law, it was simply humans in God's family. That's as far as it went.

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 01:29:39 AM

if Noah was told to get 2 of each animal then why did he forget the dinosaurs?

gonorrhea · December 12, 2006, 01:50:23 AM

Tsunokiette blindly believes the Bible based off of nothing but that he wants to, that he has faith that it's accurate.
Those of us who require proof for such things as Creation, the Flood, and various other biblical accounts will naturally be at odds and grate with those who don't.
And,

QuoteIf more than half of the Bible is factual, why wouldn't the rest be?

No book is 100% factual. This is such a poor argument, I mean really, just because part of a text is true does not necessitate the rest is, even if that part is 50%, or 60%, or 99.99999999% true!

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 01:55:12 AM

I've heard this line so many times "it's in the bible so it's true!" so now, I'm going to write a book about how cats invented cheese, and it will be true, because it is in a book.

Tsunokiette · December 12, 2006, 01:55:49 AM

Quote from: gonorrhoea on December 12, 2006, 01:50:23 AM
Tsunokiette blindly believes the Bible based off of nothing but that he wants to, that he has faith that it's accurate.
Those of us who require proof for such things as Creation, the Flood, and various other biblical accounts will naturally be at odds and grate with those who don't.
And,
QuoteIf more than half of the Bible is factual, why wouldn't the rest be?
No book is 100% factual. This is such a poor argument, I mean really, just because part of a text is true does not necessitate the rest is, even if that part is 50%, or 60%, or 99.99999999% true!

Let me rephrase that then.

No book changes it's viewpoint halfway through.

You don't read a fictional novel which becomes fact halfways through.

You don't read an encylopedia that becomes short story halfway through.

That just doesn't happen. It never has.

The fact is, the Bible is a collection of recordings. It is recorded history.

For those that say that the Bible is just a prank.

The Jews take their religion just as seriously as any religion takes their religion, I doubt they would blaspheme it like that.

EDIT : @BoE - I just said that if you don't believe me ask for proof and I'll give it to you. You're ignoring what I've said.

&&&&&&&&&&&&& · December 12, 2006, 01:58:24 AM

Again I say. I've heard this line so many freaking times that it's bugging the hell out of me! They always go back to "it's in the bible so it's true!" to get out of any question! You asked a question they can't answer and they will go to that line. so now, I'm going to write a book about how cats invented cheese, and it will be true, because it's in a book.

haloOfTheSun · December 12, 2006, 02:00:48 AM

Plus the

Quote from: Tsunokiette on December 12, 2006, 12:57:52 AM
You have to remember, this wasn't something someone wrote down, it's something many people over 1000's of years recorded.

is proof that the Bible got turned into many falsities. How many times do you think it was re-written and re-translated? And you know it was always changed because of the so many different views one can have on the events in the Bible. Most likely, it's all nothing more than a fairytale.

Tsunokiette · December 12, 2006, 02:01:51 AM

Quote from: BanisherOfEden on December 12, 2006, 01:58:24 AM
Again I say. I've heard this line so many freaking times that it's bugging the hell out of me! They always go back to "it's in the bible so it's true!" to get out of any question! You asked a question they can't answer and they will go to that line. so now, I'm going to write a book about how cats invented cheese, and it will be true, because it's in a book.

.... I just said if you want proof ask, don't ignore me. I don't usually get tidcked, but this arogance of yours is right near pissing me off. You want archelogical proof? Ask and ye shall recieve.

gonorrhea · December 12, 2006, 02:42:33 AM

Dish it out then.

gonorrhea · December 12, 2006, 02:44:26 AM

also

Quote from: TsunokietteFor those that say that the Bible is just a prank.

The Jews take their religion just as seriously as any religion takes their religion, I doubt they would blaspheme it like that.

What? The Bible was written by ancient men looking for power and influence. Judaism is just another Middle Eastern religion, that has been constantly evolving since the beginning.