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I don't see any Canadian PSP Wi-Fi support!


DS gets my vote

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DS rules!
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DS kicks PSP's anus. THough DS doesn't have Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
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DS rules, face the truth.

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Ds is better considering that i havent played it...i just nintendo..lol but DS still gets my vote
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OMG psp for sure, how it is wireless network enabled, left-handed person friendly and it is more powerful, seems to have more games out now than nintendo DS did when it was the PSP's age. Plus it is more powerful, and u can watch movies on it.
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The PSP will have better games on it. I bigger screen and all. The only proble is ports that worked well of the PS2, won't work on the PSP. But the hardware on the thing destroyes the DS. What the DS have? Just a whole lot of potential right now. I want results.

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I only liked a few games on Playstation and I did not like any game on PS2, so it's doubtful I will appreciate any of the games on the PSP. PSP also has lots of defects (the square button for example).

DS is better by far.

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There is only 2 reasons I have a psp
1.I can play roms/iso any where now.
2.Mine was cheap($200 tax exempt ist usally around 300 with tax)

the futures are nice like mp3 player(but we got Ipods and cd players for this)
and playing moives(suck cuz you can't play regular dvds...

Reasons for DS
1.Touching is good so long as a old man doesnt do it
2.AW:DS,MK:DS,FF3DS,Xenosaga 1+2 DS,Meteos and AoE DS
those are just a few of what I'm looking foward to
3.Pictochat is good in borng classes
4.I no longer need a alarm
5.Kick ass battery life
6.backword compadible
7.Can you say no to nentendo AND mario?
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PSP! i got webcomics emulators movies off the internet and much more on my psps mem card =)

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I vote PSP, basically for all the reasons already said. People forget that there was two screen gaming before the DS, I remember a few dreamcast games where I used to use the second screen of the VMU for them; looking at maps etc.
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That was only if you got the special memory card. It was cool but for some games it only showed the name...
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Where's the "none" alternative? :?

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DS is fun!
I mean, come on;
The cartridges CLICK into place
with real authentic
springloaded action
how cool is that :lol:
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Wow. Um. Great argument. I'm stunned. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

The PSP has the biggest screen I have ever seen for a portable gaming system. That alone is the best feature that should make you buy it. But if not, try Dynasty Warriors, GTA, Need for speed, Metal Gear Acid, the list of great games goes on and on.

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I like both! 8)  They both suck, but they rock. DS = weak graphics PSP = where is my second stick? How can I play a PS2 without one?

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That's why you shouldn't own a PS2. Just a PSP.

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Need For Speed Most Wanted ala DS~



Need For Speed Most Wanted ala PSP~



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Uhhhh, great. Any compelling argument??

As you can see, the PSP graphics are at least tiwce better than the DS's. So, many mainstream games are going to be much better on it. However, the DS is very innovative, and needs to diverge from the norm in almost all of it's titles.

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I hate it when psp fans show off the psps graphics like it was the best part and compare it to the ds


Let me tell you something the psp version is already for ps2.xbox and gamecube so y bother.

If you think gaming is all about Graphics then you must open your eyes.

i dont got anything agianst the psp.is that i hate when people compare the graphics of the psp version and the DS!! hoe come you cant compare it with mario kart?  :D

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Does the word PORTABLE mean anything to you????

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I hate it when psp fans show off the psps graphics like it was the best part and compare it to the ds

Let me tell you something the psp version is already for ps2.xbox and gamecube so y bother.

If you think gaming is all about Graphics then you must open your eyes.

I dont got anything agianst the psp.is that i hate when people compare the graphics of the psp version and the DS!! hoe come you cant compare it with mario kart?


What' wrong with comparing the graphics between the two? They're both in the same market fighting for the same thing. I'd rather have a nce big screen with prettier graphics to look at that a flappy DS that's not as forgiving to my left-handedness as I thought it could be  :|

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Becuase Mario Kart will never exist on PSP?
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To be fair, the PSP isn't being nice to left handers either.

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Does the word PORTABLE mean anything to you????


I rather have a new game then a portable game that was already released!

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What' wrong with comparing the graphics between the two? They're both in the same market fighting for the same thing. I'd rather have a nce big screen with prettier graphics to look at that a flappy DS that's not as forgiving to my left-handedness as I thought it could be  


yea but need for speed for ds is a crappy game.Whats the point of comparing the graphics if EA is new to the DS.they didnt really do nothing with the psp version except add one mode.

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But being portable, even as a remake, is great if your on the go. It's a major plus many times for gamers.

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But being portable, even as a remake, is great if your on the go. It's a major plus many times for gamers.


But those games are brand new

i rather buy the ps2 version then play it outside for about 2 hours.

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I rather have a new game then a portable game that was already released!

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What' wrong with comparing the graphics between the two? They're both in the same market fighting for the same thing. I'd rather have a nce big screen with prettier graphics to look at that a flappy DS that's not as forgiving to my left-handedness as I thought it could be  


yea but need for speed for ds is a crappy game.Whats the point of comparing the graphics if EA is new to the DS.they didnt really do nothing with the psp version except add one mode.

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Becuase Mario Kart will never exist on PSP?


When i said that i ment that mario kart ds is beter to some people then need for speed psp and look at the graphic....no biggie

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What's your point? The PSP is still very cool. With the biggest screen alive.

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What's your point? The PSP is still very cool. With the biggest screen alive.


when did you hear me say psp is not cool?

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Alright, DS is winning by almost double!
In ur face stupid hiphop morons with ur useless overrated PSP's! :twisted:  :twisted:
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It's only winning right now because of Mario Kart. A.K.A. the best game known to mankind.

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tee hee.  Touching is good.

Yes DS.  Yes it is.

The Nintendo DS gets my vote just for that.

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It's only winning right now because of Mario Kart. A.K.A. the best game known to mankind.


Its not winning becouse of mario kart.

its winning becouse its beter then a portable shit player

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DS MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!
And ive seen the actuall sales charts NINTENDO has been selling more games and consels that sony and microsoft for the past 4 years SO BEAT THAT Potable Shit Player

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I like that!
PSP; Portable S*** Player!
I like it a lot!
And it's true!
I don't want to play portable S***
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DS for sure!
Never liked sony's ps1, ps2 etc.. (only liked the final fantasy's, which were only playable on those consoles! =[   )
DS is better then psp for sure..
I like the look of the psp more though, but ds has much better games, double screen, and touch screen.. what else do ya want? ;)
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I doubt that the GC was winning in sales. It's been a lackluster year 4 nintendo.

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well, I'd personally say both have their ups and downs, like I live in a small town so my pictochat for my DS is useless and the PSP I just feel restricted when I put MP3s on it when I could have bought an iPod, or the games, they aren't that great of graphics... But I do like the fact that the PSP CAN hack the X-box 360!! =D  I'd say DS all the way, but if you get technical it goes by PSP



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ermm.. i see it as this

if you want weird games then get a ds

but if you want games that you would play on a ps2 then get a psp

its a no win argument btw. its impossilbe to define a better one from the 2

and people making up silly names for the psp are just childish even so

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anyway i have a psp and if i have enough money would get a ds aswell it jest happens that i got bought a psp... :)

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PSP; Portable S*** Player!
I like it a lot!
And it's true!
I don't want to play portable S***
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Three cheers for DS(which is still winning)


I know im gravedigging but guess what?
DS is portable too OMG!!
And you know what?Can a DS Do a "picto"chat with people from different countries like the psp can? NOOOOO.

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There isn't any veriety right now, so picking a system is really kind of useless.

Yeah but still PSP is way better.

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ok, people...they were both made for two seperate purposes.

DS- To provide innovative, new gameplay and to draw in new gamers and hardcore gamers alike.

PSP- to provide the ultimate portable experience in terms of graphics, sound, and publicity.

ill take DS, seeing as how i have one ^.^

personally, I think SOny screwed themselves over when they made it so that the disk formatting is different on the PSP than normal DVDs and the PS2

You wanna know what the PSP full name is?
The Sony PlayStation Portable entertainment system.
Alright. So if you dont feel  like playing games or your in a crappy mood you can cheer yourself up with the music player and video player.
And PSP has a solution.You put in the USB chord download the emulated game and move it to your PSP browser.There you go.You don't need a disk.

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um...okay...actually, Nintendo Japan is releasing a TV and INternet browser for the Nintendo DS. to bad its only in Japan at the moment though...

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um...okay...actually, Nintendo Japan is releasing a TV and INternet browser for the Nintendo DS. to bad its only in Japan at the moment though...



Big rip off.Thats what the PSP does.It HAS A INTERNET BROWSER.

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Yeah, and it blows.

LOL it blows like the dessert.The DS sucks more then my mom though.

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And your mom does not suck. Therefore DS is great. Teehee :wink:

Then how am i alive zach?!?!

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I'm just saying: Sucking = Oral Sex, chances are, you have better chance of having a child with having sex with a Vagina.

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So about that money...
Mental wouldn't know that. He only has sex with men.

Pwnt.  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LMAO real funny Fumann. I just told that to Hailey MY GIRLFRIEND and she said that was fucked up and stupid.
I just Said the DS sucks more then my mom.

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LOL it blows like the dessert.The DS sucks more then my mom though.
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after struggeling to explain why the competition is rediculous for about 5 mins inside the little quick reply box i have given up

basically

the ds are brining their feature up to the psp's standards and the psp is trying to go further so the ds cant catch up its stupid

Actually PSP got to the internet browser before DS

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Hey this is an answer from a person with both PSP and DS (obviously me), DS is much better for gameplay and being more portable, i had to take my PSP to be fixed ecause i put it in my poket and the screen cracked, not to mention GTA or to me GCG (Grand Crappy Game)! DS has cool puzzle games like meteos and what PSP owners gonna do when Golden Sun 3 and FF Crystal Chronicles (FFCC WILL be WiFi) come out for the DS?? Hahahaha I own!! :evil:

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Both...

Starfox is coming out on the DS. That is going to own... plus if your friends need your help on SF you can join their game through wifi

PSP-- because it has wifi and can browse the internet... so when i'm bored at work I can surf

   The funny thing is I dont have either...

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ds and ds lite rule ff3 ,zelda,phamtom hourglass,mario 3 on 3 basket ball,kirby,diddy kong racing to name a few ( if they have been mentioned i just read the last page) good neally original games the psp is full of games with 2,3 and some new name stuck on the end of the games name

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Ds, hands down. I had a DS for a short while, and I loved every second of it. I'd play on the bus to school, at school, on the bus back home, at home, in my bed at night, then in the morning before I go to school and repeat the cycle all over again. Even the port games like Mario 64 DS offered so much more than the original version that I'd beat it countless times and never get bored of it. WarioWare Touched! was a genius game, utilizing every bit of the touch screen as humanly possible.

I also had a PSP for a short while. Much to my dismay, the only games I could find for it were sports games and racing games, all of which were either straight ports or badly made original games. Sony focused too much on having that system do anything and everything, and not so much on the gaming. I buy handheld gaming systems to play games, and Sony just didn't deliver on that front.

Christmas is coming up soon, and I'm getting a DS Lite. There are so many games on that system I would love to play, whereas the PSP doesn't have one game I want to try on it, save LocoRoco.

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i dunno, i have both, and i play the DS more...however my PSP is set up to run the normal games, and set back to the 1.5 to play roms on it... portable earthbound and megamanx1-3? its pretty fun, 'cept for the random fricken freezing... and the horid slowdowns 50% of the time... it can run n64 (which was way more powerful then a psx at the time) but  not a snes game? what the hell?

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ds and ds lite rule ff3 ,zelda,phamtom hourglass,mario 3 on 3 basket ball,kirby,diddy kong racing to name a few ( if they have been mentioned i just read the last page) good neally original games the psp is full of games with 2,3 and some new name stuck on the end of the games name
Don't the new ds lites have cracked screens so the screens get dirty/ruin very quickly? I've heard quite a few ppl complain. oh Yeah mario 3 on 3 sucked and most of those games you mentioned arnt out yet but I am very much so enjoying my harvest moon currently on my ds.
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They should release FF7 on DS. FF7 Owns all others. BTW is FF3 the same as FF6? im extremely confused by that. Oh well. :P

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So about that money...
They called FF6 by FF3 in the states... Possibly in Europe too, some one from Europe should Comment on that.

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the DS owns the psp, i'm sorry, it's a fact of life that everyone will have to one day accept.
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i say PSP is better

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man, i couldve sworn i posted on this page.

anyways, i think that nintendo, not having a very good launch line up, lost a bit of support, but is now regaining it due to their contract with sqaure, and an impressive lineup of upcoming games. Children of mana, Tales of Tempest, FF3, the list goes on and on. yes, the PSP has better graphics, and yes, it has more franchises to it, but all in all, they are two unlike things.

Look at it this way. Sex and your favorite food are both great things in your life, but you cant cmopare them. The DS and the PSP are both great, theyre both handhelds, but beyond that they are totally built for different purposes.

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I agree. I wish I had a DS but I'm happy I got the PSP. I might miss out on my favorite titles but the PSP also have nice games too. Like Monster hunter freedom. Great graphics!


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well i have both and i say i like my Psp more then my ds, its just what you like


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i agree. its definatley based on game preference. however, square is definatley bringing lots of RPG goodness to my little dual-screened buddy.






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My DS is great.  I got an M3 PLayer for it, so I can run emulatiors, TV Shows, MP3's etc.  Not to menation do all the sweet stuff it did before hand as well.  I haven't seen anything from the PSP that would impress me enough to spend the kinda of cash they are asking. 

Oh and I am a Nintendo Fanboy, yeah, that helps.  Not a Raving Fanboy, just a Fanboy.