...He doesn't actually care if you're shot or not, you know.
Yeah, he is no doubt the sort of kid that walks into a school Matrix style... Heck may be you and Jesus Hitler could form a little mini death squad...
And you believe this? That only 60,000 have died in North Korea in the last 17 years? That is perhaps the most naive thing I have ever heard.
It's the only info I can find... the figures are not public... These are figures I found from the Charity helping in the slum like area's, those worst effected... The Charity is saying things are extreamly bad, they are looking at a small area... so those figures are pretty high on the percentage of people being looked at... (Its 60,000 dead from poor living conditions IE Medical aid, Food, Adverse weather etc...)
We want to invade them to disarm a hostile, isolationist state that is a threat not only to us but some of our closest allies- South Korea and Japan.
OK say you Disarm them... Close down the Nucular program etc... Thats one less Nuke on the planet... I bet doing so you kill a couple of thousand Korea Soilders and they kill a few hundred Americans... If his other Nukes are as small a Yeld as the one tested I doubt it would cause that much deverstation, I bet it wouldn't even reach its target... I think you could be walking into another Iraq like situation, as the invation starts He will disarm and destroy all related material, if he has any... there is no proof he has more Nukes... And the one he did have he could have purchased off the black market, or slowly got the parts from China many years ago... Nobody knows if he is a threat or not at this stage... He is a Bloke waving a gun, that may be empty... Get better info before attacking thats all I really mean... else this will turn into another Iraq...
Yeah, but they're not using it. They don't even have the money to buy farming tools.
May be you should try going on a Holiday to North Korea:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3113352.stmIt's Actually not all that bad a city and the people are Super friendly... they love their Leader...
North Korea Farming Photo's
I know the land is hard farm to due to Policy and % land that's arable... The Real issue of starvation is only now more real from the point NK disclosed they had Nukes:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4072280.stm China and South Korea have stopped giving aid... It's Not just the Western world that was helping with Aid, the main sources have stopped... there is more people now starving in North Korea, thats why North Korea is now open to Holiday makers and Tourists to boost funds... more and more people are going... There is no easy solution apart from Kim to give up his Nukes any way, and allow the UN in... He may just do that should things start getting as bad as you and the news is suggesting... but so far they is no offical death toll from North Korea... Only Estimates, and the ones I found are the only ones to get published... So I don't know what your seeing in relation to my findings being greatly lower than your own... News Reports say Millions COULD starve... not that they are starving...
So 9 out of 200 countries is most?
And most of these countries are generally peaceable folk, unlike North Korea.
Scroll down, it shows those with Nucular programs and those caple of Nucular power... (It's no place near 200... but is a fair few... in Africa had Nucular power)
There isn't that much work in North Korea, and most of the people are unskilled
Some people are making a very health living in North Korea, there is a fair amount of work there, but your right the level of skilled workers is low... and to get a job there you need to be skilled and have a good education (of sorts)... What I am saying is if your born poor there you will die poor there, it's not really the land of oppertunity, and those wanting to flee are those that have nothing or nothing to offer North Korea...
Yes, you're right. We should ration food, drinkable water, oil, and other resources. Sure, the death toll will be in billions but at least we'll have plenty of resources for our sickly children!
You know what I mean... don't be a tit... I am saying one day every country will have to face a simular situation, and what then...? do we feed the disabled, the elderly or the children...? (I am saying its a hard choice to make, and a brave one)
I don't think we need to get in a guns debate here, but I can assure you that illegitimising guns will not alleviate matters.
I am trying to point out LOADS of people die in America due to poor Laws on Guns... May be more people die a gun related death in America than those from starvation in Korea... on average 87 people in a America per day get shot and a good rate of those die... If a Bullets cost $100 each (to the public) then would it still happen ? (Make you think before doing a drive by I guess)- And if shops only sold them in packets of Ten... It would make people use them in Extream conditions...
Kim Jong-il would never consent to this.
He might if they become X-communicated from Korea, and not allowed to return... and if he got paid a certain amount for each removed, like a Tax return from their wage of a few pence on every pound once they are earning...
The North Korean government will be ill-pleased with foreign troops in his borders, for any purpose.
Yeah not the best idea in the world... It would have to be a gradual build up of trust...
The war in Iraq was fought/is being fought due to a variety of reasons, such as Saddam Hussein, and yes OIL, the WMDs that turned out not to be there (nonetheless, they were believed to be at the time, so whether or not they were in actuality there is irrelevant to the reasons for the war), etc.
There was a report saying there is no real threat, and that was taken out of the final version, there was area's that COULD have housed Weapons... thats all the report said... Just like Korea COULD have more Nukes...
Oh shit, you've been reading about Vietnam haven't you!?
That War was a Slaughter... The war claimed perhaps 2-2.5 million Southeast Asian lives, a large number of whom were civilians.
Yeah... lets repeat that all over again...
You do know that what happend in Vietnam lead to one of the Uglyest bits of history ever... North Vietnam followed up its southern victory by first making Laos a virtual puppet state. Socialist fraternalism did not last long. The Khmer Rouge, who had historical territorial ambitions in Vietnam, began a series of border incursions that finally led to a Vietnamese invasion. The VPA onslaught overthrew Pol Pot's murderous regime and a pro-Vietnamese government was installed (see Third Indochina War). The U.S. did not recognise the new government of Cambodia, and, along with the United Nations, continued to consider the Khmer Rouge (perpetrators of the greatest genocide since the Second world War) as their ally. In 1979 the Chinese, furious with the Vietnamese for eliminating their Khmer Rouge allies, launched an invasion of Vietnam's northern provinces. After fighting to a stalemate, the Chinese withdrew.
So was Victory or not...?