Bullying Must Become Illegal.

punishing people or kids for being kids is not right. whats next some guy goes to jail for 5 years for calling some one a douche? all because he had a bad day and that persopn pissed him off?

He said punishing them was wrong, and then went on a tangent about a guy going to jail.
Punishing them isn't wrong. You think they don't deserve so much as a detention?

I've already stated that kids could even go as far as suing each other. Of course I think they deserve detention, which is what bullies already receive. Your stance is that it should receive the same treatment as sexual harassment, which you've been so kind to point out is in fact illegal. So really you still think bullies should go to jail and we haven't gotten anywhere except you bickering over me pointing out your views.

Unless of course you've just been contradicting yourself the whole time.

The sexual harassment thing was against the "kids will be kids" mentality. And like you said, a lot of people bat a blind eye at bullying. I just think that teachers should be more proactive in this situation. As I said before, I was replying to adrien's implied 'don't punish them at all' mentality. I haven't contradicted myself at all. And yes, this is completely pointless. Can we just write this off as a 'we kinda sorta agree but aren't very good at getting on the same page'?

Yes ma'am

I encourage my kids to go through the established framework of rules when they catch shit from their classmates. It often fails, and when they reach their breaking point I counsel them to follow the method that worked for me: put the fear of the gods into the bully. Just as sure as they are bullies, they are cowards, and all you need to do is...

..."man the fuck up and punch them in the teeth"

once. It carries its own consequences, but it's better than living in fear. This principle applies to a lot of the institutions we hold dear as free peoples of our countries, the concept that when all else fails we are well within our rights to use force to protect ourselves. Labor unions, political activists, revolutionaries... whatever. In the US, the right to bear arms was included in the original bill of rights for this reason- we have the right to fight back but only when the system fails us, as it sadly often does.

As far as the root causes of this shit go, well, that could be its own thread on bad parenting...

I encourage my kids to go through the established framework of rules when they catch shit from their classmates. It often fails, and when they reach their breaking point I counsel them to follow the method that worked for me: put the fear of the gods into the bully. Just as sure as they are bullies, they are cowards, and all you need to do is...

..."man the fuck up and punch them in the teeth"

once. It carries its own consequences, but it's better than living in fear. This principle applies to a lot of the institutions we hold dear as free peoples of our countries, the concept that when all else fails we are well within our rights to use force to protect ourselves. Labor unions, political activists, revolutionaries... whatever. In the US, the right to bear arms was included in the original bill of rights for this reason- we have the right to fight back but only when the system fails us, as it sadly often does.

As far as the root causes of this shit go, well, that could be its own thread on bad parenting...

This entire statement is proof you are an awesome dad.

Heh, thank you very much!

Yes, bullies should be punished.  By their schools.
Yes, it's bad that they're often ignored.

No, the government shouldn't get involved.