Brink

[hiromu656]

Anyone planning on getting Brink? Here's the website if it is unheard of.
http://brinkthegame.com/
Brink is yet another of those multiplayer-heavy fps games. The twist is that you have a large deal of customization and strategy for going about your daily dose of shooting people. It's rather deep I might add. Armor and weapon customization and perks have a large impact on gameplay, and so does the size of your character. Smaller people have more agile moves, like running on walls, hopping over stuff and what not while bigger people can carry more powerful and heavier guns and have more hp. Along with that are class systems (i forget them all) but there is medic, gunner dude (forgot the name) and demolition... and other stuff.

Anyway, the point of this is that the game looks like a hunk of ownage, but it seems really no one has heard of the game. I've been telling people and what not at school to get the game, most of which had never heard of the game, I'm just hoping some of those fps fans might check this game out, so I can have something fun to play with a lot of people rather than playing call of duty no matter how much i hate it just because there are a ton of people playing.

[Holkeye]

You're wrong. The twist for this game is that single-player is multiplayer. More accurately, when you do missions, the enemies are all real people playing the game. Yes, it looks good, but no, comparing it to Call of Duty is inaccurate. Its very different.

[tSwitch]

Thank you Holk for saying what I came here to say.

Also plenty of people have heard of the game.
Your friends just live under a rock.

[Sophist]

rather than playing call of duty no matter how much i hate it just because there are a ton of people playing.

I think this is all that needs to be said to show this is a silly topic.

[Forty]

Instead of talking his views on Call of Duty how about we talk Brink?

I think it looks really good and I think I might buy when it comes out.

[strike]

multiplayer needs less customization. this is getting stupid. fucking blackops barebones pure is so refreshing. i actually enjoy CoD again.

I hate brink on the principle that it wants to be call of duty with more bullshit that probably won't be balanced in any way. unless they have blizzard levels of support for PVP balancing this game will invariably be shit.

[Holkeye]

Its not trying to be Call of Duty. Why does everyone compare everything to that series?

[strike]

because everything must have perks or some way to have different base stats from eachother, which is fine in a class based game like tf2 but is horribly stupid when each class setup can be any combo.

admittedly i haven't seen much about brink, so i don't know the route they are going for customization but i think allowing any combo the player wants is bad for gameplay overall because you can't balance everything.

Tf2 or BC2 while you might have x gun you're still a whatever class you picked and have the advantages or disadvantages of that class, leading to better game balance.

[Holkeye]

If anything, I'd say Brink is more like Borderlands with crossplay.

[strike]

okay looking more into it it seems like the archetypes might fit the bill for more of a class based thing, but we'll have to see.

[Holkeye]

I think a lot of people are missing the point about this game. It isn't deathmatching or CTF or anything like that that makes the game interesting. Its the crossplay. Granted that The Crossing was slated to do this exact thing almost 4 years ago, but Valve dropped the ball on that one, and Bethesda picked it up and ran. I'm not worried about classes, customization, or anything like that. I'm worried about the community. I mean, when a company designs a game in which mission's a.i. bots are replaced with human players, they're putting a lot of faith into their audience. It could either be the most important and enjoyable experience in gaming, or it could be a disastrous mess. If people play the roles that they're supposed to, the idea of this game is incredibly intriguing to me. If, as I predict it to be, the game is filled with trolls and assholes, then it would be the least fun thing I can imagine. Aside from that, the balance for the game has to be nearly spot on, even moreso than Left 4 Dead. After all, the "bad guys" job in any game is ultimately to die. If you have every single enemy being a human controlled character, this could be difficult. On one side, the enemies have to be strong enough to provide a challenge for the "good guys", but weak enough to allow forward momentum. On the other side, it has to be fun enough, and rewarding to play as the antagonists. Speculation doesn't amount to much, so more than any other game coming out soon, this is a "wait and see".

In short, I'm very excited, but I still remain skeptical of the crossplay.

[tSwitch]

rather than playing call of duty no matter how much i hate it just because there are a ton of people playing.

I think this is all that needs to be said to show this is a silly topic.

I read that as "why should I play a game I don't like just because all of my friends are?" rather than "I don't like it because it's cool"

[IAMFORTE]

The software they are using on brink is incredible in my opinion : 3 I plan to fetch it regardless of how broken multiplayer is. Perhaps there will be methods to scale down the strength of the enemy players to allow forward progression?

[Forty]

Isn't there a single-player mode anyway? So if multiplayer sucks enough, you could probably still garner some love for the game from single-player.

[strike]

with as much focus as they are putting on mp, i don't expect the single player to be longer than 5 hours. homefront sure as fuck wasn't. touted the fucking story over all else BAM 5 hour campaign that feels like half the levels were cut. but this is a topic for another thread.

[Holkeye]

God dammit, you're still not getting it.

[Kokowam]

Yeah, man, Holk's all excited why you gotta go and hate?

[Holkeye]

Its not that, its just... well, I mean I love you Strike, but you look at games too myopically.

[strike]

how am I shortsighted? I simply prefer balance in a multiplayer environment and dislike sacrificing single player length and quality in order to focus all efforts on multiplayer. if you must focus on MP then go the quake 3 route and don't have a campaign.

companies feeling the need to tag on a campaign is almost as bad as companies tacking on a half-assed multiplayer mode because it's expected.

[Holkeye]

You're short-sighted because you're looking at everything through the lens of what already exists. This game is attempting to break out of that SP and MP (as we know them) mold, and do something different. Sort of like L4D did. This is not aiming to be a traditional FPS, so looking at it as one is limiting your own idea of what video games are, and can be. The closest analogy I can think of on quick notice is Pokemon. It may be an RPG, but it is more than the sum of its parts. Brink, at its core, is an FPS. That doesn't mean that its like Call of Duty, or anything else before it. Therefore, your myopia isn't at particular aspects of a game, (campaign length, classes, etc.) rather in your entire view of gaming.

[Roph]

http://www.1up.com/reviews/brink-review

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/05/why-were-not-review-brink-and-why-you-shouldnt-buy-it-yet.ars

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/h7xj1/dont_waste_your_money_on_brink/

[Link]

People have reported errors with ATI cards, but there has been a fix rushed out.

I still have my pre-order as its out on the 13th, still looking forward too it.

[Holkeye]

These reviews are really bad. Not bad as in "the game is bad", but bad as in "lets all bash the game and say its broken, but not be specific." I mean, 1up is shitty as it is, so we can all disregard that, but ars is usually pretty good. That's why I'm surprised that their "review" was basically; "We're not going to review this because its broken. You shouldn't buy it. The end." What the fuck is that?

[Link]

Apparently none of the reviewers got a copy of the PC version, only 360 version.

[Grafikal]

There's a massive thread on the steam forums about the game crashing just after the splash logo. A ton of people are getting that, including myself. :|