10 states line up to sue over health bill

[Zylos]

(CNN) -- Ten states plan to file a federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the new health care reform bill, Florida's attorney general announced Monday.

Bill McCollum, the Republican attorney general under fellow Republican Gov. Charlie Crist, told a news conference that the lawsuit would be filed once President Obama signs the health care bill into law. He said he'll be joined by his counterparts in Alabama, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington.

All of the attorneys general in the 10 states mentioned by McCollum are Republican, but McCollum said the lawsuit would be about the law and not politics.

Also Monday, Virginia's Republican attorney general said his state would file a lawsuit challenging the health care bill. It was unclear if Virginia would join the other states or proceed on its own.

McCollum said the lawsuit would challenge the bill's provision requiring people to purchase health insurance, along with provisions that will force state government to spend more on health care services.

"This is a tax or a penalty on just living, and that's unconstitutional," he said of the mandate to purchase health coverage. "There's no provision in the Constitution of the United States giving Congress the power to do that."

McCollum also said that portions of the bill would force states to spend money they don't have, which he called a violation of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.

"There's no way we can do what's required in this bill and still provide for education, for foster care, for the incarceration of prisoners, all the other things that are in this bill," he said.

McCollum said he expected the lawsuit to eventually reach the U.S. Supreme Court.

Later Monday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the Obama administration expected to win any lawsuits filed against the health care bill.

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This is just one of several possible articles about the health care reform bill. I'm willing to bet that the newspapers aren't going to shut up about this for a long long LONG time.

[Jules]

Well I've wanted to move for a long time, no time like the present, eh?

[Holkeye]

Whoa, wait. Pennsylvania? This isn't my opinion! How can they just do this?

[Moss.]

Well, it's our opinion now! We'd better just own up to it!

[Sophist]

Doesn't surprise me that the big ol' oil-rigs-guns-and-cows state is against this.

[haloOfTheSun]

Irock is that his state isn't a part of this.

[Irock]

I'm glad several states are willing to enforce the constitution.

I believe Tennessee said it was going to sue as well yesterday when I was watching C-Span.

[firerain]

Irock, have I ever told you you're a mindless fucking drone?

[Irock]

Have I ever told you that your politics are flawed? :]

[Zylos]

Whoa, wait. Pennsylvania? This isn't my opinion! How can they just do this?

Exactly my thought when I first read it.

[Roph]

God wants it, his will be done =o

[Irock]

The majority of US citizens are opposed to this health care bill. This country is *supposed* to be a democracy.

[Holkeye]

Which would be fine if there were a citizen's vote.

[Irock]

The point is, the representatives are supposed to represent the United States people and uphold the constitution. This bill never should have passed, and I think it's great that so many states are lining up to fight the bill.

Best case scenario, this bill is shot down and we get a better health reform bill.

[haloOfTheSun]

Irock is an expert on politics and how to best run the country because he's 16.

[Irock]

HaloOfTheSun has a brainwashed mind because he's a 19 year old college student who listens to liberal professors.

Uphold the constitution. Represent the citizens of the United States. Why are you so against that?

[Sophist]

Irock is an expert on politics and how to best run the country because he's 16.

qft

[Roph]

The majority of US citizens are opposed to this health care bill. This country is *supposed* to be a democracy.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim-Margin-Americans-Support-Healthcare-Bill-Passage.aspx

[Irock]

The majority of US citizens are opposed to this health care bill. This country is *supposed* to be a democracy.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim-Margin-Americans-Support-Healthcare-Bill-Passage.aspx

That's one poll. I've seen way more polls which have the opposers as the majority. Everyone agrees that the majority is against it. :]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

[Holkeye]

Owner of that site:

The Center for Public Integrity listed his firm as having been paid $95,500 by the Republican National Committee and $45,500 by the George W. Bush presidential campaign in 2003-4. He has had at least one article published by the Democratic Leadership Council, a group of centrist Democrats whose goal is to make the "Democratic party more moderate, rather than more liberal.

[haloOfTheSun]

That's one poll. I've seen way more polls which have the opposers as the majority. Everyone agrees that the majority is against it. :]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

See, the problem with polls like that are that the results can easily be made to fit the pollster's agenda. Most of the time their data is gathered from people who share the same opinion as them, not an actual random polling which would be more accurate, although still not very. You can ask 100 random people if they like bubblegum, and if only 20 say yes, does that mean only 20% of all people like bubblegum? If you're running an anti-bubblegum website, then yes it does.

[Irock]

That's one poll. I've seen way more polls which have the opposers as the majority. Everyone agrees that the majority is against it. :]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

See, the problem with polls like that are that the results can easily be made to fit the pollster's agenda. Most of the time their data is gathered from people who share the same opinion as them, not an actual random polling which would be more accurate, although still not very. You can ask 100 random people if they like bubblegum, and if only 20 say yes, does that mean only 20% of all people like bubblegum? If you're running an anti-bubblegum website, then yes it does.

That's why I didn't bring up polls in the first place.

A more reliable source to consider would be the election of conservative Scott Brown as a Massachusetts senator. He was the first republican elected into the senate in Massachusetts in nearly 40 years. Massachusetts is known as one of the most left-wing states, yet they elected a conservative into the senate. This got rid of the democrat's supermajority in the senate, which many thought would prevent the health bill from passing. This is eye opening and reliable; it tells you way more than any third party poll could.

[tSwitch]

ugh, this again.

...would be about the law and not politics...

lol.

Also how is it Unconstitutional?
taking away your right to not have healthcare or something? (which they aren't doing)

A more reliable source to consider would be the election of conservative Scott Brown as a Massachusetts senator. He was the first republican elected into the senate in Massachusetts in nearly 40 years. Massachusetts is known as one of the most left-wing states, yet they elected a conservative into the senate. This got rid of the democrat's supermajority in the senate, which many thought would prevent the health bill from passing. This is eye opening and reliable; it tells you way more than any third party poll could.

Who gives a fuck about right or left, Scott Brown actually went out and campaigned, and his competitor was a total bitch.  Vote for the Politician, not for the party.  People like you who focus on this Party bullshit is why our nation's government has degraded into the stupid sheep herd that it is today.

[Irock]

A more reliable source to consider would be the election of conservative Scott Brown as a Massachusetts senator. He was the first republican elected into the senate in Massachusetts in nearly 40 years. Massachusetts is known as one of the most left-wing states, yet they elected a conservative into the senate. This got rid of the democrat's supermajority in the senate, which many thought would prevent the health bill from passing. This is eye opening and reliable; it tells you way more than any third party poll could.

Who gives a fuck about right or left, Scott Brown actually went out and campaigned, and his competitor was a total bitch.  Vote for the Politician, not for the party.  People like you who focus on this Party bullshit is why our nation's government has degraded into the stupid sheep herd that it is today.

I don't focus on the party, I focus on the views. Though, views are generally associated with a party, and if most republicans have views closer to mine, I'm more likely to support that republican.

Views are associated as being either more right or more left, and aren't political parties at all. :\

Here. Source is the health care reform bill.

[Grafikal]

Also how is it Unconstitutional?
taking away your right to not have healthcare or something? (which they aren't doing)

From what the source said and literally was said from the video in the source, is a tax for living. lol. Basically, if you don't buy health insurance, you're going to get fees or taxed. That and something about making the states pay money they don't have or w/e. Something about the 10th amendment. I don't care enough to look up all this. But that was just what was said in the source.