Shining Force IV(It's Back give it another Chance!)

[Karo Rushe]

Also don't get on my case for using RTP when other users RTP as well, I already admitted Mapping is my weak point so cut a guy some slack.

Yeah, but guess what, Those People actually Don't use Arshes as their main character (Unless their noobs or the game's a Joke).

:/ Read some tutorials on Mapping, check the screenshot thread for some ideas and how each part of the tilesets work, don't go all 'I suck at mapping, because it's my weak point'.

[edwards64]

A. What's wrong with Arshes?
B. Arshes is only the main character sprite for the prologue.

- Plus I don't want to switch to midi I HATE that poor sound quality soo much so at the moment I am looking up some more music types.

[edwards64]

I made a couple changes.

[Lazer Ki]

Switch to .ogg's. Those have the same quality, but smaller size.

[edwards64]

Those are compatibale with RPG MAKER XP??

[Zylos]

Yes, and they loop easier too. The downside is that they'll take a moment of lag to load up at first.
But it's worth it.

[edwards64]

okay cool thanks. I'll get to work on that.

[edwards64]

I got the file to be even smaller thanks to ogg's but it wasn't successful with all files

[Grafikal]

Nobody will take your game seriously with Arshes as any part of the game unless it's a game based on making fun of how noobs use Arshes like yourself, but seeing as how you don't know, then I'm sure that this game isn't doing that. Also, remove every resource from your folders that you don't use. Learn to file manage and create asset folders.

[edwards64]

What is the big deal about Arshes why is he only used by noobs that if anyone was does use its a big deal. I like the Arshes sprite it fits the red-headed character that I want. ARSHES IS ONLY USED IN THE PROLOGUE!!!

[Karo Rushe]

Arshes was used by f*cking everyone, and it annoyed the shit of out the Older & more Wise men disliked that. Nobody cares whether be the prologue or epilogue, everyone hates Arshes to death and won't take your game serious at all . . .
So stop been immature crybaby, we're trying to help and yet to whine about it like some 3-year-old boy who want an Ice cream but his mother won't buy it. And it's getting annoying. Period . . .

[Lazer Ki]

Uhh.. how is he being a crybaby?

[Karo Rushe]

Uhh.. how is he being a crybaby?

You don't seem to have read all his posts to understand the meaning of the word.

[modern algebra]

Yes, you should not use Arshes for all the reasons stated above. But there's no point in trying to force him to change it just because we don't like it. The game maker is not obligated to accept all advice (as established in the case of Irock v. NAMKCOR), and he clearly doesn't want to change it. Granted, hardly anybody will play his game because of it, but that's beside the point; there's no purpose in aggravating him.

[Lazer Ki]

Uhh.. how is he being a crybaby?

You don't seem to have read all his posts to understand the meaning of the word.

Ohh... Now I see... yeah, I guess he kinda is.

[fuzzthedog]

Nobody will take your game seriously with Arshes as any part of the game unless it's a game based on making fun of how noobs use Arshes like yourself, but seeing as how you don't know, then I'm sure that this game isn't doing that. Also, remove every resource from your folders that you don't use. Learn to file manage and create asset folders.

This is only my opinion, but... ARSHES IS ON THE CHARACTER SHEET SO YOU CAN USE HIM! There really is no reason not to use him should you execute it correctly.

[NPC]

This is only my opinion, but... ARSHES IS ON THE CHARACTER SHEET SO YOU CAN USE HIM! There really is no reason not to use him should you execute it correctly.

The problem is that he is seen constantly, it would be the same as if you decided to make a fan game of FF7, people would probably become really annoyed, especially if you kept the main character as Cloud. Now, there is no real problem with either Arshes or Cloud (hell, I love FF7, and I am not going to deny it) but after seeing the same thing over and over, you get a little sick of it.

[modern algebra]

@fuzz - no, Arshes does not automatically make games bad in an objective sense and yes, you can use him. But it's prudent to not use him when thinking of the market. If everyone in your target audience hates an idea, then it is stupid to use it. If the object of posting a game on a forum is to have other people play it, why wouldn't you want to avoid something that you know will make them dislike your game? Like I said, he/she is under no obligation to change it, but saying "Hey look, nobody likes games that use Arshes (because it is generally a marker of a lack of creativity, and people don't want to play games that are likely to be uncreative and unoriginal)" isn't a negative thing. It's constructive feedback that, if acted upon, could increase the appeal of the game to the community.

In any case, the creator hasn't been here since a month ago.

[edwards64]

SHINING FORCE IV IS BACK...
Give it another Chance.