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Integrating a CTB - [RE-FREAKING-SOLVED]

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Okay, well, this is embarrassing.

As you folks know, my skills and experience lie within 2k3, and therefore I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about scripting.

I don't know too much about programming, either - just HTML and minimal CSS for me, sigh.

However, I'm definitely willing to learn if only you can teach me ;_;

OKAY, SO AS TO MY EXACT PROBLEM.

I'm using Charlie Lee's CTB - http://www.creationasylum.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22666

Or at least I want to. My problem is that I have no clue whatsoever as to how to use it - My first problem is integrating it into my game's script database. The easiest way to do this, of course, would be to take the demo and copy all of the scripts from there onto my own game, but even then I'd need to mess around with the scripts to give my characters commands, and remove them from the default characters. I could just change up all of the default characters to my own if I was desperate (And I'm almost there, let me tell you) However whenever I mess with scripts - even a little - I always manage to majorly screw my game up, one way or another.

Anyways, I need to know how I should go about integrating it into my game first.

Secondly, Charlie Lee's CTB comes with a handy-dandy PDF manual. There's something to be said about this manual: It's the most confusing, unspecific pile of garbage I've ever seen in my life. I'm sure an experienced scripter could sort through it easily, but I don't happen to be one of those. Far as I can tell, there's NOTHING in there about implementing the script, just how to use the battlesystem and implement commands. Implementing commands is a pretty important thing to know, but it was, evidently, written for the worldly scripter and leaves much to the imagination. There's the terms it uses - I have no idea what an "element" or "superart" is, and it's sure as hell not telling me. Also, again, the instructions are short and sweet and assume that the reader knows exactly what these instructions are going on about.

Also, I didn't mention this - there are no copy-paste scripts, as far as I can tell extracting the script from the demo is the only way to obtain them.

So, can anyone help me out, or at least recommend me a less confusing more beginner-friendly sideview battle system?

Spoiler for:
Also, as for the animated battlers - I'm not there yet. Probably just as confusing, if not more, than the CTB, although I might have a better chance of taking a crack at it after I understand how to use the CTB itself >.>


ALRIGHT, TO SUM IT UP:
Can you please
-Give me a basic "Scripting for Dummies" lesson, just the basics, make it as condensed as you want
-Show me how to integrate the CTB into my game: I'd really appreciate it if you SHOWED me so that i could do it myself, instead of just pulling the scripts out and barfing them back at me.

IN RETURN, I SHALL:
-Give you an internet back rub (My internet back rubs are damn good. I think.)
-Shower you with endless praise and thankfullness (at your discretion)
-If you so choose, I will call you sensei (until you wish for me to stop), or if you want me to go the full anime nerd treatment, maybe even -sama?

Only if that's what you want. You know.

I know I'm kind of asking you to go above and beyond here, but I'm really really REALLY in the middle of a dire(ish?) situation (not really) and would really really REALLY (yes really) appreciate some help ;o;
« Last Edit: August 01, 2009, 07:30:48 PM by KitKatKan .-. »

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Good job to Mr. Charlie Lee in his CTB for stealing dollmage's sprites and not giving credit where credit is due. (EDIT: Seems he gives credit in the game, but that's kinda weird. >_> I guess it ain't as bad, though)

Anyways, I'm not necessarily good at scripting, but I'm sure I can understand scripts for the most part. And just implementing shouldn't be too hard, lol. I'll try and look at this and get back to you if I can help.

If I don't respond (ever), I'm ashamed because I couldn't do anything so I just didn't say anything again. ._.

EDIT: What I've got so far...

Regarding Battle Commands:
Okay, I had no idea what the heck elements were. But, browsing through, this is what an element is:
1) Go to the Database (F9)
2) Hit the "System" tab (far right one)
3) Where it says "Element Name"
(Look into the demo to see exactly what I mean. You'll need to scroll down)

That means, if you make a spell that's ice based, set it to the Ice element (like you would normally). While you do that, set it to the CMD ("name") element, too. :)

Regarding Superarts:
They're basically like Limit Breaks like in FFX (the reason I chose FFX is because that's one game I know where the Limit Break bars don't fill just due to the amount of damage you take: Other reasons apply (like listed in the .PDF))

This is still optional.

Regarding the scripts in general:
No need to worry your little head over everything. In the scripts editor, just take everything below the "*** CHARLIE CTB ***" and above the "** Animated Battlers - Enh  ver. 10.3 **"

You're only going to need to change the script labeled "Configuration" (obviously, lol)

I'd say copying the "Elements" #44-50 into anywhere in your game, just in case you need them, would be important.

Uhhh... Try that out XD I'm leaving out a LOT of stuff but.. yeah.

I didn't go over everything in the PDF >_> I'm too lazy and, unless you want them, it's just a waste of my time. :P
« Last Edit: July 29, 2009, 10:38:29 PM by mastermoo420 »

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Your advice makes my soul happeh.

I'll play around with what you've shown me so far. *gets on this* )*V*)9

Anyways, I feel dumb now. *coulda had a v8 facesmack*

Because I could have taken a closer look XD

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Ahaha yeah. Messing around and stuff just helps you sometimes. Good luck with it!

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I wouldn't suggest you use a custom battle system if you don't know scripting. Generally you need to do a good amount of customization. Not to mention, you might have problems with compatibility.

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Anyways, I feel dumb now. *coulda had a v8 facesmack*

I definitely see what you're saying, I was sorta kinda waiting for someone to un-recommend this to me due to my inexperience >.>;;
In any case, Falcon, I want to try it out. If I DO get this working, then I figure I might as well roll with it. 

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I'm using Charlie Lee's CTB - http://www.creationasylum.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22666

Or at least I want to. My problem is that I have no clue whatsoever as to how to use it - My first problem is integrating it into my game's script database.

I'm working on adding a step-by-step installation section in the guide.

Secondly, Charlie Lee's CTB comes with a handy-dandy PDF manual. There's something to be said about this manual: It's the most confusing, unspecific pile of garbage I've ever seen in my life. I'm sure an experienced scripter could sort through it easily, but I don't happen to be one of those. Far as I can tell, there's NOTHING in there about implementing the script, just how to use the battlesystem and implement commands. Implementing commands is a pretty important thing to know, but it was, evidently, written for the worldly scripter and leaves much to the imagination. There's the terms it uses - I have no idea what an "element" or "superart" is, and it's sure as hell not telling me. Also, again, the instructions are short and sweet and assume that the reader knows exactly what these instructions are going on about.

Thank you for your kind words... :(
If you don't know what an element is, you must have the program since yesterday man... even if I write this installation guide, I'll assume that the reader at least knows how RMXP works...

You forgot to mention that I'm always available for helping people having troubles with the system, be it the most remote feature or simply installing the system itself. Just ask (me).

Good job to Mr. Charlie Lee in his CTB for stealing dollmage's sprites and not giving credit where credit is due. (EDIT: Seems he gives credit in the game, but that's kinda weird. >_> I guess it ain't as bad, though)

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Excuse me, where would you expect to see the credits???
Besides, I don't use those battlers anymore in the newest demo, but when I did, dollmage was credited in that thread as well, in the "Author's notes and Credits" section (as you can see here where I haven't updated the opening post yet).

stealing...  >:(
 

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Anyways, I feel dumb now. *coulda had a v8 facesmack*

Because I could have taken a closer look XD

You could have read the rest of the thread.

Anyways, I'll put the resolved tag on my problemo now. I'm sorry if I offended you, don't get angry now.

Glad to hear that you're making that step-by-step guide then - Feeling like a nooblet isn't my cup of tea, by the way.

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Of course I read the whole thread.
I'm not offended by what you said about the guide and so on, instead assuming that I didn't read past your first post kinda pictures me like some hot-headed idiot...

Anyway... the demo you can download now has a section in the guide (or freaking guide...) about the installation. The guide in its entirety is not exactly updated and does not mention everything, that's why I'm interested in people's feedback.

See you.
 

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Well, thanks for doing that then  :tpg: