[2k3] Touhou Fantasy

[jq1790]

Oh, I wasn't saying to MAKE the P item into an Exp-giving thing.  Just stating a random thought I had.  I do think maybe it would work well having the Point items as a tradable thing though.  Have maybe some special consumables for small amounts, or some almost-uber equipment if you gather a ton of em.  (I'd have Point items not be dropped, except maybe by some bosses or something...)

[Xenomic]

Hmmmmmm.....that is a nice idea though. Could use it for the character-specific armors and equipment too....hmmmmmm

[jq1790]

Ok, I'm getting really disturbed now...  Decided to try again and fight one of those Chimera things...It seems a little OP, to be honest.  I should NOT be taking ~200-300(or ~600-700 if weak to the attack) party-wide damage from something at this stage of the game...right?  Or is there something I'm missing here, or do I just need to level up so Reimu doesn't get 1-shotted by those things?(Much less the still-high damage the other 2 take...)

For the record, those enemies hadn't shown up in the previous version, which is why I didn't have to deal with em til now.  Dunno if that was intentional or a bug, but still.

[Xenomic]

Chimeras are rare is why you didn't see them very often. Originally, the further you went in that dungeon, the easier it was to run into them. Now, it's the opposite; the further you go into the dungeon, the LESS likely you'll run into them. There's ONE room in particular though that there's a high chance of running into it. I barely beat it my first time, but did....and won a Release Scroll Lv1, which is a 15% drop from it. @_@

And yes, they're MEANT to be OP. That's why they're Notorious Monsters lol...if you can beat em, you tend to get good stuff...assuming stuff drops.

[jq1790]

I don't know what the Release scroll does to know if it's good, but either way...  It's kinda annoying that I HAVE to fight one to get one of Patchy's barrier keys...  Oh well, guess I've just gotta keep trying til I manage to not be insta-slaughtered.  *shrug*

Also, those black flaming orb things?  Yeah, is there a reason they only give 10 exp?  Luckily it missed, but the thing tried to cast freaking BREAK on me. I remember I went almost half of FFI's GBA remake with a Stone'd Monk person since I never grabbed the Soft spell/items, haha.

Also, you do remember that I'm in the SDM, yes?  The chimeras are listed for "Under the school", a later dungeon.  Are these ones different?

[Xenomic]

Wait what? Did I not put in the right encounter? lol....Goddamnit all! >_<


And yes, they only give 10 EXP because they drop lots of Yen as well have a 5-10% chance of dropping Fs, which are Elixirs.


EDIT - Wait...where do you fight it at in the SDM...? I'm not finding it???


As for Release Scroll, it teaches Meiling Red Energy Release Lv1....which is a 500 damage physical attack. Strong for when you get it, but has a 85% accuracy.

[jq1790]

I'll take a screencap so you can see what I'm fighting.  i'll beat em eventually just out of spite for them, but still.  I did over 700 damage to it and it still lived to kill me before.  (Yay for them apparently being Wind-aligned so Meiling can deal crazy damage to them?)

[Xenomic]

Nah, they just take a lot of damage from Earth attacks and half from Fire/Ice/Lightning/Wind IIRC. Also, I found where those encounters were. Didn't set them right x_x

Also, Chimeras have 2000 HP IIRC too lol...will reupload this patch so hang on!

[jq1790]

Are they, by chance, vulnerable to Freeze?  Even if Icicle Fall won't deal a lot of damage, if I freeze the thing, I can probably kill it.

[Xenomic]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2JYI4SW5

Updated patch again...thank god for someone actually looking at this thing x_x. I feel foolish for not testing it further now...and you do have like a 40% chance of inflicting Freeze on them.

Also for everyone else, avoid fighting the maids in the main hallway. Same issue there. Oi vey...

[jq1790]

Actually, either I just happened to miss all of them, or you're not correct on the main hall area...  Do you mean the area right after you enter?  'Cause I fought the maids there and they were, in fact, maids.

[Xenomic]

Strange....some of the maids there I had in the database as Elemental Flames....that's....weird. @_@


Also, the reason that all of the other maids are removed right now is that the SDM is gonna be COMPLETELY revamped in terms of layout before I release beta4. I had this idea for a long time now, and it NEEDS to be done. The way the SDM is right now...doesn't feel like how it would be ya know? So gonna fix it up, THEN put in those maids.

[jq1790]

Ah...  If it weren't for the fact that I can still help by looking through all this, I'd be tempted to stop playing since I'll probably need another restart after the big changes happen...  Oh well, no biggie.  Not THAT long.  =p

Anyway, I'll keep you apprised of anything weird as I've been.  Hopefully there won't be anymore Suprise CHIMERA! attacks again.

[Xenomic]

Hopefully. I don't think anything else was missed with overworld enemies so...let's hope so! I don't think this patch requires any major restarting though since it just changes encounters.

[jq1790]

Oh, I didn't mean for this PATCH...  But for when the SDM revamp is done.  That'll probably be more than just a slight upheaval, yes?

[Xenomic]

Nah. It doesn't really affect the database, just the mapping and placement of things, which doesn't require a fresh start. ONLY things that affect the database, such as skills being moved around or changed, new characters, statistics changed, etc. require a fresh restart mostly.

[jq1790]

Ah, ok.  Sort of like how the re-done starting levels and such in the latest big-ish patch for beta4, yes?  That makes sense.  Good to know I might make it to the end of the playable stuff before beta3 is fully released, haha.

EDIT:  So mean...  Figures I'd get a Royal LV 2 scroll when I don't HAVE Royal Flare yet...  Though...*runs back to village, hoping said scroll is now available for purchase due to his new party member acquisitiion yet is disappointed, yet unsurprised due to the lack of a Meiling set of skills*

[Xenomic]

Oh, those skills? You can buy them from Koakuma and Vivit both. You won't be able to get either of theirs from the village till AFTER the end of beta1. I did that on purpose. Though nice job on getting Level 2 Royal Flare that early lol. I didn't even get one from a PatchBot, mainly due to how mean those things are.

[jq1790]

Ugh...What level should I be before the battle with Eirin...?  She totally destroys me, and it doesn't help that there's really only ONE character that can hurt her after she uses Awakened God...(Seeing as, as I'm HOPING you know, she becomes immune to most elements of magic, and switches from nulling Shadow to ABSORBING it...).  Also, Apollo 13 is evil.

(For the curious, my level spread is Reimu 9, Patch/Meiling 10, Reisen 12.)

Pseudo-edit-because-I-forgot-to-post:  WHAT THE CRAP GALAXY IN A POT.  Also, she freakin TAUNTS you?  That's messed up.  I guess I wasn't as far along as I'd've liked, considering I died yet again in my latest attempt, entirely due to "Hey, I'm gonna just kill everyone off, unavoidable, one hit apiece.  Hope you like 4k-5k damage on characters with under a thousand!"

[Xenomic]

That attack is meant to be OHKO. You just have to react fast enough and make sure that when she starts her little taunt, that you GET her to stop talking. Otherwise, she WILL use Hourai Elixir, and that's all sorts of bad for you. I was around those same levels so....Reisen is meant to be your main healer in that fight to keep everyone's HP and MP up, as well as alive. Don't bother wasting items too much during the fight before that, since you auto-heal after it!

[jq1790]

So, basically...if she uses Hourai Elixir, it basically means "You screwed up and now you die.  Game over."
Fun.  Well, at least I know I WAS in fact probably pretty close to winning since I DID see GiaP and Hourai Elixir...  For the record, at what HP percentage, about, does she start her taunting/Elixiring/partywiping?

EDIT:  First freaking turn, she uses Awakened God?  What the crap.

[jq1790]

Sorry for the double-post, but this is an unrelated thing to my previous one...  Finally beat Eirin, and I"m under the school now.  I think there may be something off with the coding there, since I just got the 'everyone's HP get randomly lowered to almost nothing' glitch again...  It might just be that I somehow did something weird, I dunno.  I'm wonderinmg if it's related to those trapped Save Points I just stepped on...  The ones that set your party's HP to 1, I mean.

[Xenomic]

The traps should only reduce your HP to 1 only once. They shouldn't do it again after you triggered them o.o  Did it happen before you stepped on them or after?


Also, at 33-35% HP is when she'll use Hourai Elixir, and at 0-25% is when she starts using Galaxy in a Pot.

[jq1790]

I'm not sure, but I played that spot again and it didn't happen, so I'm good there.  Though, in the under-the-school area, there's an enemy with no sprite...It can Berserk people, if that helps you ID it.  Also, in Momiji's area(Just started controlling her), the enemies I was fighting had no sprites either...  They had Escape and Double attack, I know that much.  However, I couldn't tell you WHAT they were since they were invisible.  Look into it, perhaps?  Also, I got some error the first time I tried entering a battle there that killed the game.  I had saved, luckily, right after fighting that interesting Keine battle and Tenshi, so I didn't lose any progress, but still.

Also, Tengu Mountain signs = broken?  I try to read them, but nothing.

[Xenomic]

Ooooooooooh. I know what happened. Silly me forgot to put in the sprite packs too x_x

Must reupload again! For the 5th time! >_<