Re-fragmentation?!

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 12:10:52 PM

I ran Defraggler last night, and it said I had 27.6 GB of fragmented files
I was like "oh cool, lots more space" so I started it and went to sleep.

I wake up this morning and now I have far LESS SPACE after the defragmentation ended.

WHAT
THE
FUCK?!

run analysis with Defraggler again, sure enough "you have 50gb of fragmented files"

seriously...what the hell is going on?

Holkeye · February 25, 2009, 12:22:59 PM

Just because files are fragmented, that doesn't mean that defragging is going to give you more space. When you defrag, it just puts all of the frags next to each other, sometimes resulting in a bit of free HD space. All you can do is run it again and see what happens.

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 01:33:01 PM

Quote from: Holk on February 25, 2009, 12:22:59 PM
Just because files are fragmented, that doesn't mean that defragging is going to give you more space. When you defrag, it just puts all of the frags next to each other, sometimes resulting in a bit of free HD space. All you can do is run it again and see what happens.

Holk, it's not about free space.
it's supposed to DE-fragment.

and it went from 27.6gb of fragmented files to 50gb of fragmented files.

Holkeye · February 25, 2009, 01:59:46 PM

One reason that I can see is if it was defragging two files that were right next to each other at the same time. This could create a sort of "mesh", and end up resulting in the files becoming more fragmented than they were in the beginning. Other than that, I have no idea.

:) · February 25, 2009, 02:03:00 PM

defrag with your windows tool and see what happens

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 02:36:10 PM

Quote from: Noumes on February 25, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
defrag with your windows tool and see what happens

I'll do that tonight.

Quote from: Holk on February 25, 2009, 01:59:46 PM
One reason that I can see is if it was defragging two files that were right next to each other at the same time. This could create a sort of "mesh", and end up resulting in the files becoming more fragmented than they were in the beginning. Other than that, I have no idea.

yeah I can't imagine what happened either. I Defrag once every two weeks or so since I got the computer and Defraggler has worked perfectly.

Holkeye · February 25, 2009, 03:28:16 PM

Did you install any new software since the last time you defragged?

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 03:47:04 PM

Quote from: Holk on February 25, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
Did you install any new software since the last time you defragged?

nope.

And honestly, I don't know what difference that would make, since it was working fine all of this time up until just yesterday :/

Roph · February 25, 2009, 06:03:15 PM

How much free space (as a percentage, not amount) do you have on the drive?

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 06:24:50 PM

Quote from: Roph on February 25, 2009, 06:03:15 PM
How much free space (as a percentage, not amount) do you have on the drive?

apparently 30%

it's reading 65gigs free on a 225gb (supposedly 250gb) drive

haloOfTheSun · February 25, 2009, 09:55:43 PM

This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I mentioned it in IRC a few times and everybody just ignored me.

Feb 12 22:22:48 <HaloOfTheSun> I defragged and went from 14.2 gigs to 13.5

And when you buy a hard drive, you don't get as much space as advertised. It's normal for your 250 GB HD to be only 225.

tSwitch · February 25, 2009, 10:12:20 PM

Quote from: HaloOfTheSun on February 25, 2009, 09:55:43 PM
This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I mentioned it in IRC a few times and everybody just ignored me.

Feb 12 22:22:48 <HaloOfTheSun> I defragged and went from 14.2 gigs to 13.5

And when you buy a hard drive, you don't get as much space as advertised. It's normal for your 250 GB HD to be only 225.

I know that much.

so what...did it just fix itself?
My fragmented files doubled, I want my space back

haloOfTheSun · February 25, 2009, 10:48:00 PM

Yeah, me too

Stupid defraggler

Holkeye · February 26, 2009, 12:51:10 AM

Quote from: NAMKCOR on February 25, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: Holk on February 25, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
Did you install any new software since the last time you defragged?

nope.

And honestly, I don't know what difference that would make, since it was working fine all of this time up until just yesterday :/

It would make a difference because you might have inadvertently installed something harmful.

Roph · February 26, 2009, 01:26:29 AM

Maybe it left some of the temp stuff behind =s

Kokowam · February 26, 2009, 02:10:52 AM

I watched that .gif a couple of times. It's cool.

tSwitch · February 26, 2009, 02:43:37 AM

Quote from: Roph on February 26, 2009, 01:26:29 AM

Maybe it left some of the temp stuff behind =s

'some' ?
23 gigabytes worth?!

it never did that before :/

SolstICE · February 26, 2009, 05:14:27 AM

is there good reason to run defrag? never bother because it takes 10 hours and keeps resetting

:) · February 26, 2009, 05:24:00 AM

Quote from: SolstICE on February 26, 2009, 05:14:27 AM
is there good reason to run defrag? never bother because it takes 10 hours and keeps resetting

It's like cleaning up your room. everything's where it should be, easier to find, and you have more room.

Holkeye · February 26, 2009, 06:42:30 AM

I always thought that defragging made programs start and sometimes run faster, because all of the information is in the same area. I have gotten some extra space from defragging, but I was always under the impression that this was a secondary feature.

tSwitch · February 26, 2009, 01:45:17 PM

windows defrag worked.
I uninstalled a few games I never play anymore, then ran it, I'm now back up to 123gb of free space.

Quote from: Holk on February 26, 2009, 06:42:30 AM
I always thought that defragging made programs start and sometimes run faster, because all of the information is in the same area. I have gotten some extra space from defragging, but I was always under the impression that this was a secondary feature.

I think the main purpose is to make things run faster, but it has always cleard up space close to the amount of fragmented files it found, for me anyway. I'm going based on my observations.

ahref · March 01, 2009, 11:22:21 AM

http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/
runs so much faster and uses windows defragging stuff