religion true or false? (warning some might find this offensive)

fine i shall try to put in some periods here and there but don't expect them to be in the right places

Here, I'll help you out.

Fine I shall try to put in some periods here and there. Don't expect them to be in the right places.

That is where they go. Just put them where you would pause while talking.

Getting grammar advice from me. =X

(i don't know much about this)

If you dont know much about a subject, why are you using it in a debate?

(i don't know much about this)

If you dont know much about a subject, why are you using it in a debate?

Because those who do know about the subject can add on to it.

@Sabre : One method used to date fossils is carbon dating. The problem with carbon dating is that it's all relative. If I think a rock is 20 million years old and I find a skeleton of something that died 20 years before the rock was formed, I automatically assume the skeleton is 20,000,020 years old. Once again, this is relative.  If the rock was really only 300 years old then my initial hypothesis of the skeleton's age is far from correct.
There's another method used to date fossils where they are dated based on the layer of earth they're found in. (I forget the name) For example, the deeper you dig into the earth, the older the layers of earth are. This can be used in conjunction with carbon dating to "prove" fossils existed millions of years ago. This is where I'm going to bring in a theory known as the Omphalos hypothesis.

I personally believe that God created the Earth in its mature form. That is to say it was already a huge (well, tiny compared to the stars) clump of earth and all vegetation and life was in its adult or mature stage. The time it would take the layers of earth to form (apart from this divine act) would take millions of years. The reason I believe in a mature earth is if God created a young earth with young vegetation and young people, it would have failed. The people would have been too young to gather their own food. Assuming the earth was young and the people were mature, there wouldn't be any food and by the time the animals and vegetation had developed to the point they could be used for consumption mankind would have already died of starvation.

I agree with your last comment. The church (or more specifically, the Roman Catholic Church *traditional*) did indeed use Christianity to get economic benefits. The "get out of Hell free card" you speak of is the concept of indulgences. For example: You rape a woman, pay the church $5.00 and your sin is forgiven. This is not supported by the Bible or any of the Christ's teachings.

That, however, was humans using something Godly for their benefit. A majority of Christians (or at least the ones who have read the Bible and haven't been brainwashed) don't agree with the concept of indulgences.

Though, no offense intended: The point you're trying to make about how Christianity benefited people would only work if Christianity benefited people from its conception.

I have people waiting to get on the computer, I'll be right back in a bit. (I'll get to moses, the staff, etc. then)

This thread should be locked seeing as you can't start a debate over something you don't know too much about

Or

Can't be proven right or wrong.

i don't care what your opinion is. i'm having fun and learning things that i otherwise wouldn't have learned. if you don't have something to contribute to this debate, go away

I wasn't stating my opinion, this isn't supposed to be  "fun"

You can't prove religion right or wrong.

i don't care what your opinion is.

Cant really say that here, since everyone has an opinion, cant really say you dont care.

i don't care what your opinion is.

Cant really say that here, since everyone has an opinion, cant really say you dont care.

That's your opinion . lol

From what I see Sabre is genuinely trying to understand why people who are religious believe what they believe.
The point of a debate is to share ideas and answer each others questions. If you leave a debate and haven't learned anything, then the debate wasn't very productive. Part of a debate is listening to what other people have to say instead of thinking of your rebuttal before they finish speaking.

If there are willing debators then the topic shouldn't be closed. Just because you disagree to a topic being open doesn't mean others won't benefit from it.

Thread fails.