The Eraser Doorway

Here's an interesting concept:

You are out for a walk on a dimly moonlit night, and you somehow stumble upon a magic door. This is a very powerful door, and you have no way of comprehending how it works.

The only way to see what is on the other side of this door is to open it and walk through the doorway.

However, though you would very much like to see what is on the other side, you are hesitant. Why? Well, there's a sign by the door that reads as follows:

"Do not enter. Those who enter this doorway will be forever erased. Everything you have created, all memories of you, and all changes you have made to the universal time line will cease to exist in past, present, and future. You will not die- you will simply vanish entirely from existence."

This is a bold claim- though there is no proof that this is warning holds any truth or value at all.

A man comes up along side of you, and reads the sign just as you have. With a roll of his eyes and a sigh, he says to you, "Watch this", and opens the door.

On the other side, only inky blackness, stretching on to eternity.

The man states that is merely because the light is turned off, and there are no windows.

He motions to step inside...

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Consider this now: You can disprove the warning if the man steps inside, and then, subsequently, steps out, quite easily.

However...Is there any way to prove that the warning holds true?

That is what I wish to discuss.

There is a very simple way to tell if the warnings hold true.... All you require is a long piece of rope, and a person you dislike. First you tell the person you don't like that they will be able to obtain one thing they wish if they step into the door.... But you have them put on the rope, tie it securely on their waist, and have them go through the door....

You wait a few minutes, and pull on the string. If the rope comes back with nothing... then you have proved that the warnings hold true, if not... Then it is safe to go in.

     Ah, but if it holds true, they are erased from memory. You would not remember your partner in the experiment, but rather you would notice, for the first time, a rope inside the doorway, the end of which rests in your hands, leaving you quite perplexed. Furthermore, there's a good chance that, if your partner is the one that caused you to return to the door on this occasion, you may end up being in a completely arbitrary place due to the effects of the removal changes to the time stream.

Ah yeah... Forgot about that. Well, it could erase the memory of the person that went in... But take in account about the other man that is still there, just ask him to put on a blindfold and tell him that a person is going in the door and that they have a rope on them.

I've come here on my own account, but I call the person I dislike with a cellphone and they come. I tell the guy who says this warning is fake that when I tell him to take off the blindfold and if the rope is empty then the warning is true... Since I won't be the one disappearing, the memories of what I said will stay.

VERY good, that's better than what I came up with, which is very similar (flawed too, so I didn't bother with posting it).

However, again you must consider the part about altering time and history.

     . . . there's a good chance that . . . you may end up being in a completely arbitrary place due to the effects of the removal changes to the time stream.

The answer is no.

Take something that makes noise, like a radio and toss it into the door while playing music, if you hear it, then you'll remember it being there.

Not really, you would just wonder how it got there.

Take something that makes noise, like a radio and toss it into the door while playing music, if you hear it, then you'll remember it being there.

Use this idea, but write down on a piece of paper that the radio is to test whether the guy is right or the sign is right.

Should have thought of that

Eternal Sunshine of the Arrow's Mind!

How about since the dude said that the light was of, you shine a light inside. If you see a switch, you can probably go in without harm. And, if the warning holds true, then it won't matter anyways, because everything after you were but a twinkle in your Daddy's eye is you-less, and thereby unaffected by your existence.

Man, I need a sandwich. Too much thinking.

-BP

Please do not necropost

Please do not necropost

Sorry, I just thought it was an interesting topic.

It was, but you necroposted

haha just build your house there put un wanted guests in there if you finnally end up with cancer a disease walk in and find out i know its a stupid idead but you had a log road and nows your chance (7 hours on the forum :O for me)

If the man steps into the doorway, everything about him would have been erased from time.
This means that he would never have stepped into the doorway, nor would you have seen him, thus creating paradox.

1. I'd throw a rock in the door and see if it comes back.

2. Or a squirell.


3. I'd take the risk and try it myself, if i don't come back it's proved.

Who cares about life anyways? If someone does, they can send Arrow


edit: Woulnd't realise huh?
Err, there is a way, there always is a way.

I'll find one and edit the post.

Till then, the third option of mine~




Edit:-
You said, Arrow, that there is no proof that the sign is true.
So we just send someone in, and if we don't remember a thing..yeah it's true.

But he'll come out, most probably. I came out~

Leave the door, then come back the next day to stick your hand in. If the sign's true you'll find yourself thinking you've never had a hand, and thus you'll have no memory of why the hell you're in front of the door again (you came for the specific reason of inserting the hand you'll then think never existed).
Read the sign again and think for a while.

I mean, you would be aware that the door erases all memories of what enters it, so it wouldn't be out of the question to come up with the thought that perhaps the reason you don't remember why you're in front of the door is because you put something in it.
From there, it would be probably for you to look down at your handless arm and think that maybe you put your hand in.
You then say "OOoooooooooooooooh. HOLY FUCK that's crazy."



Or here's a thought:

Since you were the first to encounter the door, it could be that the "you" the warning refers to is literally you.
So if the man walks in and walks back out it proves nothing.
Or perhaps when it says "you," it means the entirety of you--your whole body.

Or if you really want to try something crazy, take a sledgehammer to the door frame and take the actual door off its hinges.
If there's still an open entryway, it's no longer a door.

STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD

Easy, close the door and continue on with your own life.

The answer is no.

The answer is yes.

Rope-person theory
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Impossible if the person would have no effect  on time then you would not have brought a rope so you would find yourself back at the door, however you being confused as to why you are at the door a second time with no more resources than the first time would lead you to believe that you once had another object with you but it no longer exists and therefore is not with you at this point in time. The fact that it had never existed can be used to infer that it did :|.

Radio Theory
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The radio would stop existing and not make any music in the first place, you would not have written a note because it never existed. If it doesnt cease to exist well just walk over and pick it up you wont forget why you just threw a radio.

You guys need a little more thought.
What you should do is destroy the door or kick it into the void. Seeing as anything that goes in ceases to exist then the door would not only vanish but all memory of it would. Problem solved there never was a door. Unless of course it doesnt vanish, then you go to jail for breaking and entering.

If you knock down the door, maybe it was just a portal into the area. Then you'd be left with someone's house. :3

Also, for B&E, that's better than never existing :3

But you will always exist in an alternate, parallel universe where you didn't go into the door.

Parallel Universes are theories and only relative in thought. You could be white in an alternate world, but then it wouldnt be you. So it cant be parallel.

Who says that there are parallel and alternate universes anyway? Maybe there is only this one. Of course, that means that paradoxes cannot exist, such as someone walking through the door and no longer existing. So perhaps the door is nothing.

Exactly my point

The door must be a lie.

The door must be a lie.

You can lurk here, but please, refrain from posting.

No, seriously.

Who says that there are parallel and alternate universes anyway? Maybe there is only this one. Of course, that means that paradoxes cannot exist, such as someone walking through the door and no longer existing. So perhaps the door is nothing.

Branching off of what Halo said. If you were to exist but then you were suddenly not to exist, that would be a paradox, as Halo stated, so the only explanation would be that the door is a lie.

Or that we as humans have no real grasp on space or time, and physical rules that we have created don't actually exist.

Actually we have an evergrowing understanding of space and time and the possibility of non-paradoxical time travel is quite large. Yet it is also likely that we'll never understand it completely.

Scientific knowledge and discovery will probably take the shape of a double funnel: at first we knew nothing. Over time we started to create theories and then went on to make many discoveries, laws, and theories. We have been slowing down a little but there is still much happening. Over time our knowledge of science will not expand very much, and barely anything new will be discovered.

Anyway that's a bit off-track.

do you remember the man entering?

Well to see if it's true, you would forget the guy who entered.

Secondly ask the guy to turn on the light switch =]

Secondly ask the guy to turn on the light switch =]

Holy crap. This is probably the best way possible.

edit: it's unique because you don't actually KNOW there's a light switch in there, so it's not like you'd cease to remember not knowing if one is there or not.

If we forget the guy who went in we'd forget if someone did go in so thats wrong.

If we forget the guy who went in we'd forget if someone did go in so thats wrong.

I said it's the best idea we've seen, not that it actually works. I still go by my first post:

The answer is no.

WHEN THARS A WILL THARS A WAY

YOU DONT GOT THE WILL MALSON

THAR HAS TO BE A WAY TO DO THIS.

But you agreed with that post ?_?

I was being a malson back then.

now i'm determined to find a way.

Well it says the light has been turned off so I assumed there was some form of light. such as a bulb or maybe a candle? 
If there is also known to have no windows then its just a dark room right? Such as a closet =]

Who knows. I'll possibly give a better evaluation when I'm not so tired and have read the first post clearly.
 

~Stay Cool~

A man comes up along side of you, and reads the sign just as you have. With a roll of his eyes and a sigh, he says to you, "Watch this", and opens the door.
On the other side, only inky blackness, stretching on to eternity.
The man states that is merely because the light is turned off, and there are no windows.
He motions to step inside...

Im a little cofused here, you said that /\ in the first post. But if the man can do that then the warning is obviously a lie, or else he wouldnt be there to motion you to come in. If it were true you would simply be staring at the sign like you were before the man arrived and walked in only to vanish.

However...Is there any way to prove that the warning holds true?

Yes. Walk through the door. If it's false, you'll know it. If it's true, you won't care. O_o

Yes. Walk through the door. If it's false, you'll know it. If it's true, you won't care. O_o

You've viewed this place for over 130 days total, and that's the best you can come up with?

The most simple answer is at times the most logical...?

 

Shine a flashlight into the doorway, to get a vague idea of what's in there.

Also, using this technique, if the light disappears, you'll be stood there, with a switched on flashlight that shines no light. Thus causing you to think that the sign may be true.

Either that or you need new batteries...

That's not bad, but it's dependent on whether light is a particle or a wave =x

Exactly- it's the doorway that does the erasing, so even if the light made it through and you could see inside, you could step into the door and vanish.

we dont need to go in to look.
;-;

Exactly- it's the doorway that does the erasing, so even if the light made it through and you could see inside, you could step into the door and vanish.

The light would still be entering the doorway though

That's not bad, but it's dependent on whether light is a particle or a wave =x

Who ever said that waves don't get erased either? That could possibly be why there is no light inside the room in the first place. The dim moonlight would surely shine inside the doorway, but if the warning holds true, you could be stood there with a ray of pitch blackness going straight from the moon to the doorway, as that part of the light emitted would have never existed.

If you get what I mean...

You're talking possibilities, which isn't acceptable when you're trying to prove something to be true. I never said waves can't get erased, but no one said that waves DO, which is much more important.

I see where you're coming from there.

Light, or visible light, is electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye (about 400–700 nm). In a scientific context, the word light is sometimes used to refer to the entire electromagnetic spectrum.[1] Light is composed of elementary particles called photons.[/u]

The underlined statement states that light is made of particles. So light must disappear upon entering the doorway.

Exactly- it's the doorway that does the erasing, so even if the light made it through and you could see inside, you could step into the door and vanish.

The light would still be entering the doorway though

actually, if everything thta enters the doorway vanishes, then the light will stop as soon as its about to enter.

Wrong. The light would have never existed in the first place.

The light would still be entering the doorway though

True enough, but if you knew that then why did you say this?

Wrong. The light would have never existed in the first place.

No, there would be that bit of light that hasn't entered the door at the time.

Very true. That would leave you wondering why the light is shining around the door, but not inside it.

Here's an interesting concept:

You are out for a walk on a dimly moonlit night, and you somehow stumble upon a magic door. This is a very powerful door, and you have no way of comprehending how it works.

The only way to see what is on the other side of this door is to open it and walk through the doorway.

However, though you would very much like to see what is on the other side, you are hesitant. Why? Well, there's a sign by the door that reads as follows:

"Do not enter. Those who enter this doorway will be forever erased. Everything you have created, all memories of you, and all changes you have made to the universal time line will cease to exist in past, present, and future. You will not die- you will simply vanish entirely from existence."

This is a bold claim- though there is no proof that this is warning holds any truth or value at all.

A man comes up along side of you, and reads the sign just as you have. With a roll of his eyes and a sigh, he says to you, "Watch this", and opens the door.

On the other side, only inky blackness, stretching on to eternity.

The man states that is merely because the light is turned off, and there are no windows.

He motions to step inside...

As I have said before

it says the light has been turned off so I assumed there was some form of light. such as a bulb or maybe a candle? 
If there is also known to have no windows then its just a dark room right? Such as a closet =]
 

No Necropostin !_!
I mean its okay here but we already sort of solved this halfway through the thread

I know the rules friend

But I don't see the resolution 

They are all resolutions :B

  That no one has agreed to...

 

Spoiler for:

Rope-person theory
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Impossible if the person would have no effect  on time then you would not have brought a rope so you would find yourself back at the door, however you being confused as to why you are at the door a second time with no more resources than the first time would lead you to believe that you once had another object with you but it no longer exists and therefore is not with you at this point in time. The fact that it had never existed can be used to infer that it did :|.

Radio Theory
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The radio would stop existing and not make any music in the first place, you would not have written a note because it never existed. If it doesnt cease to exist well just walk over and pick it up you wont forget why you just threw a radio.

You guys need a little more thought.
What you should do is destroy the door or kick it into the void. Seeing as anything that goes in ceases to exist then the door would not only vanish but all memory of it would. Problem solved there never was a door. Unless of course it doesnt vanish, then you go to jail for breaking and entering.

If you knock down the door, maybe it was just a portal into the area. Then you'd be left with someone's house. :3

Also, for B&E, that's better than never existing :3

But you will always exist in an alternate, parallel universe where you didn't go into the door.

Parallel Universes are theories and only relative in thought. You could be white in an alternate world, but then it wouldnt be you. So it cant be parallel.

Who says that there are parallel and alternate universes anyway? Maybe there is only this one. Of course, that means that paradoxes cannot exist, such as someone walking through the door and no longer existing. So perhaps the door is nothing.

Exactly my point

We agreed on the fact that such a door cannot exist

Then this theory is solved!

Well no one told me that! Besides I had been gone for sometime =]