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Okay I'm indifferent on this topic. But tell me what you guys think of the whole medical marijuana thing. Is it good, bad ot just stupid.

I'm totally indifferent on the subject, but I do think pot heads would try to get medical marijua for non mdeical resons thinking that would be  a legal grey area.

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I think medical marijuana is a good thing. Personally I think marijuana in general should be legalized. Unlike tobacco cigarettes there are no proven ill side effects. I think marijuana is just like anything that can absorb a person. Video games included in that. Sometimes the obsession with the thing can lead people to bad choices. People should be responsible enough to make their own choices, and if they fail to should of course be punished accordingly. I think if marijuana were legal, people would be more responsable with their use of it. There is of course always the chance they wouldn't...

To summarize; Medical marijuana is a good thing. However legalizing it for other things could be good, and bad, depending on the choices of the people who use it.

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of course marijuana should be allowed for medical uses..and really, y not for non medical uses?

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y not for non medical uses?


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y not for non medical uses?


cause you are an idiot.

if you had any brain you would know that drugged people don't act like normal people
i really don't care about what happens to their body, if they wanna suicide i am willing to give that kind of people the gun
however, those brainless freaks of nature effect society with their behavior, they could easily kill if they don't like someone cause they don't think

i say anyone who use drugs or smoke or drink too much should be taken out of the world
same for thieves killers so on

this will solve the world's hunger problem, no one will be poor anymore cause there will be loads of jobs and everyone will behave like a smart beast or face results.

jail is wasted on people who shouldn't be alive. ~.~

as for medical usage, yes, it should be allowed for as long as there is no better way.


If you can honestly say that Marijuana makes people kill because you don't think, then you've never done it, and can't have it explained to you...IT DOES VERY LITTLE.  you can think perfectly fine, hell some people spend their life high and you wouldn't know it if you didn't know them.  Name one way someone smoking Marijuana could effect society...

Youre probably going to say something about driving...well the bottom line is that Maijuana can slow your reflexes sure, generally drivers that are high  drive slow and cautious so as to not get in trouble.  And besides your reflexes aren't that slow: simply stay further behind the car in front of you and pay close attention.

There now name one negatrive influence Marijuana(not all drugs as I think you were referring) has on society.  Name one.

Edit: You are just an arrogant person

"i say anyone who use drugs or smoke or drink too much should be taken out of the world
same for thieves killers so on

this will solve the world's hunger problem, no one will be poor anymore cause there will be loads of jobs and everyone will behave like a smart beast or face results.

jail is wasted on people who shouldn't be alive."
 
...your mother/father never had a drug problem or drinking problem?  Your friends never had dependency issues?  Your son/daughter never smoked pot?  Would you just kill them for drinking too much?  Is jail wasted wasted on them?  Someday, someone you love is going have some kind of dependency problem(drugs, alchohol, cigarettes, etc.); would you treat them the way you just posted?  If you would then you are a nazi     :wink:

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^er how does that make him nazi if anything hitler is pro-drugs As for the drugs themselfs why do you need it? Most cases of "medical" Marijuana is just cuz the person says they dont wana take asperin so there is no reason to take it.
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Whatever, its fun  :^^:  :lol: . Just don't smoke and drive.

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It's good for cataracts...glaucoma...and pipes  :lol:

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^er how does that make him nazi if anything hitler is pro-drugs As for the drugs themselfs why do you need it? Most cases of "medical" Marijuana is just cuz the person says they dont wana take asperin so there is no reason to take it.


1  Hitler did use drugs himself thats not what I was referrring to.  I meant that Nazis "removed people" from the Earth that they didn't think deserved to live.  It's the same principle as "removing alchoholics and drug addicts" from the earth.  Its not up to any person or government to decide which people deserve to live.

2  Before Medical Marijuana was outlawed(i'll get the date and edit this post) there was a writer(i'll get his name and edit the post) who had both Cancer and AIDS and basically all he had to live for was Medical Marijuana to relieve himself from the constant pain of AIDS and Cancer(can you imagine what that would be like?)  It works better than Painkillers and Opiods because the person can still function and think clearly with a very low dependency(if any).  
People can't take Morphine forever and be fucked up all the time.  It has adverse side effects.  Marijuana doesn't have many(if any) adverse effects at all.  
Imagine this man after the DEA raided his house, confiscated his labtop,  didn't find anything, and told him to discontinue all use of Marjijuana.  The diseases he had didn't change, only the law, but now he had Government agents rummaging his apartment.  THE MAN  HAD CANCER AND AIDS, why couldn't the DEA leave him alone?

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1.that is called communism not nazism

2.Others life with cancer and aids...btw that makes it worst if they do take it.I personly belive you should streghtn your own a imune system and let that fight for you granted that work vrs aids but if you have healthy diet and exersise a little bit that would help you a lot more but then agian that lazy ass would rather be on meds.
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Grass is all natural man, no meds required  8) . Medicinal marijuana's only purpose is an enhanced pain reliever. All it does it eases the pain people suffer from long term or terminal diseases.

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The reason criminals tend to also drink and/or smoke (not visa versa) is because someone who is criminal typically is more indulgent in the things in life that morals or simple good policy would consider ...less then savory. The drug does not make the person who they are, it is simply that type of person that is more likely to partake in usage of the drug. I think substances with lesser ammounts of mind alteration (marijuana being #1 in this catagory) wouldn't cause any problems in a responsible society if legalized. That said, many people are not responsible, and are going to break laws with or without drugs. The drug is not the problem. It is the people.

Also, its not nazism OR communism. Stop throwing around names without knowing what they actually mean.

As ussuall, I think blue is unneccesarily harsh, but I don't entirely disagree with him. The world is full of law breakers and morons. Its not a good thing. Perhaps death is the only true answer? Certainly, they cannot be controled.

But out of pure curiosity... blue, did/do you use the postality knights version of RPGMXP? If so, that would make you a criminal. Have you sentenced yourself to death? I wonder...

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p.knights is an expection, it's not a crime to use it
it was translated from a free to use version
it couldn't possibly be stealing ,you just use the free version the way you find right regardless fo having an option to buy another version
that's why i don't see it as any form of a crime, they simply didn't think too much about it

now, as for internet crimes in general, they are very common, but it's more sharing than stealing
stealing would be say having a crack for the legal rmxp
sharing is to share your translation to the english version

atm there is no way you will be punished for internet crimes
there are massive crack sites out there, since no move i being done against them i suppose it's not yet the time to see it as a crime
maybe a form of communism
you give what you can (buy from time to time, help others or make stuff to put on the internet) and get as much as you need (you wouldn't sell a cracked game or use every crack or illegal program you could find, just what you really need, if you started selling those stuff though you'd be a criminal)
so i think this system shouldn't change cause alot of people still buy things despite the ability to download them
if they will stop doing that though there will be a problem
hopefully the internet will stay as it is now, a sharing place.
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I completely agree with you. There are some people who abuse it, but mostly people seem to be responsible and not excessive with the resouces availible on the internet.

However, the distrubution, and often the aquisition of such things on the internet is considered, at least here in the US, to be illegal. People make use of loopholes in the law to keep doing what they do. For cracked games or emulation people will put explicit warnings saying you are not to download unless you already own the game (in which case it would be legal, however most people downloading it don't actually own it) and that you have been informed and they are absolved of responsibilty. When they do this the government can't do anything to shut them down because they have shifted the responsibility from themselves to the person downloading. The company that owns the game can of course request that they cease and desist, though I am not sure they can really enforce it.

The people who do this kind of thing on the internet are ussually pretty clever. They find the loopholes and hide behind them. It is hard to say if it is truely a crime, or if it is legal. The governing power of laws is blurred on the internet, however I don't feel it is causing any sort of real damage.

(Sorry for going off topic)

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Okay okay, I'll try to  get this thing back onto the original subject.

I have some friends who smoke pot every once in a while. All they do while stoned is play Xbox or PS2. I don't think they're harming society in any way. But I'll admit not every one is like that, some people will do really stupid stuff while under the influence of drugs.

BTW, I don't smoke pot any more because my girlfriend won't let me. I be very whipped.

Why I'm indifferent on the medical marijuana is because some people will act completely harmless while stoned... While others would act stupid. I just wonder if there are enough people who wouldn't be stupid to make medical marijuana harmless.

And yes, it does work well with people who have cancer. It helps people regian their appetite, Chemo Therapy tends to kill some one's appetite. My cousin has cancer right now, and if his appetite starts going soth I wouldn't think twice about buying him pot because I know he wouldn't act stupid.

so my concern is, would there be too many people who would act stupid while stoned to ruin it for every one who wouldn't be stupid.

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...your mother/father never had a drug problem or drinking problem? Your friends never had dependency issues? Your son/daughter never smoked pot? Would you just kill them for drinking too much? Is jail wasted wasted on them? Someday, someone you love is going have some kind of dependency problem(drugs, alchohol, cigarettes, etc.); would you treat them the way you just posted? If you would then you are a nazi


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no my parents never had such a thing they are humans and not human apes, i choose my friends wisely unlike some people, my friend would never be retards who use drugs
my childs will be educated never to even want to do any of this sh*t, hell i never even want to lie thanks to the education i got

so yes, seeing as i am only around decent people, i see those who can't control themselves a waste.
a pure society is undoubtfuly a far superior society

now let's talk about that last comment
do you even know what nazis are? you obviously don't, cause if the nazis only had problems with criminals they would be saint and would be remembered as the best thing germany ever had
however, hitler was jailed due to an attempt to take over, instead of killing him like should be done with ever prisoner they let him go after a really too short period of time
he then works his way to the top by using physical power and little criminals like you that are willing to go and blackmail or to hit for no reason
they are sniffing pots all day long... ~.~

obviously you couldn't know that cause you are smoking all the time

you wanna know how bad it is? well here is a riddle
how come most of the criminals use it or are smokers or drinkers or all combined?


this world is getting worse and worse cause of dumb people like you
why should those things even exists?
smokers are just killing themselves and their smoke kills others
i say, shoot them, there is no reason why not to do it , it's what they want.

same with drinkers and the way they will cause damage to others while drunked
and needless to say, anyone who use drugs should be shot.

why would i want criminals around?

the nazis "removed" people they didn't like, true
but the people they "removed" were the following:
a. any german who wasn't what they would call perfect (any handicap or gay german got murdered)
b. anyone who tried to say no to hitler
c. anyone hitler considered a low race, aka everyone who isn't german but mainly jews at that point such as they had no country and thus no ability to defend themselves

i would highly doubt hitler used drugs, he might have been drinking at the start such as he was a criminal and a brute asshole
but he was playing around with the world fooling everyone, he ruined every sign of a revolution, forced his based-on-nothing theory on everyone

basicly, he was playing smart, to play that smart you have to be silver
don't forget hitler was a so called god for germany, but they did no encourage usage fo drugs, though if hitler used them everyone would have.
so for as much as i'd like to call hitler a drugged moron i doubt he was drugged.

now as for not being reasonable with my need to kill criminals...
why the f*ck are you becoming a criminal in the first place?
do you idiot even think of the people who will get hurt when you get easy money for your drugs?

you are watching tv too much idiot
there is no reason why human apes who don't behave would stay alive
such as it is it would have stopped hitler if you killed every jailed creep now wouldn't it?
so there...

and it would help every country cause they won't need to fund slimes like you

you like it for medical usage?
a. get permission from a doctor, it's not up to you to choose your miracle cure, even if it's something against a normal thing, you need to ask, that's what doctors are for
b. make sure that after you are done you can get the right treatment to help you stop the addiction

otherwise i wouldn't be shocked if you'll be jailed.


hitlerdidn't use drugs????? r u serious?  u dumbass



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Hitler's Drugged Soldiers
The German newspaper, Spiegel, has been running a series on the last days of WWII this week. Check out this article on Hitler drugging his soldiers with meth.

The Nazis preached abstinence in the name of promoting national health. But when it came to fighting their Blitzkrieg, they had no qualms about pumping their soldiers full of drugs and alcohol. Speed was the drug of choice, but many others became addicted to morphine and alcohol....Pervitin, a stimulant commonly known as speed today, was the German army's -- the Wehrmacht's -- wonder drug.
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http://www.talkleft.com/new_archives/010673.html

i didn't bother to finish reading because you don't live in the real world...

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i think medical marajuana is used for the old timers for their last moments in life...cuz my grandpa is on it now...
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I think the medical drug doesn't really help much.Hell,The only time i ever see a doctor giving a person  Medical Marijuana is if they had eye problems.
I never seen a person just prescribed with Medical Marijuana because of anything else.

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plus medical marajuana is used for testing to see what it can do to us...and how they can change the effects and such...
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hitlerdidn't use drugs????? r u serious?  u dumba$$



Wednesday :: May 11, 2005
Hitler's Drugged Soldiers
The German newspaper, Spiegel, has been running a series on the last days of WWII this week. Check out this article on Hitler drugging his soldiers with meth.

The Nazis preached abstinence in the name of promoting national health. But when it came to fighting their Blitzkrieg, they had no qualms about pumping their soldiers full of drugs and alcohol. Speed was the drug of choice, but many others became addicted to morphine and alcohol....Pervitin, a stimulant commonly known as speed today, was the German army's -- the Wehrmacht's -- wonder drug.
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http://www.talkleft.com/new_archives/010673.html

i didn't bother to finish reading because you don't live in the real world...



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hitler did not use drugs, he made his soldiers use it, for the short range it would help them fight
such action is careless seeing as later on his soldier would pay the price, but it may have just come handy when he needed to take over weak countries like france and poland without much of effort
he himself couldn't possibly use drugs despite the fact that i am sure you are on drugs.

at ww2 i would doubt enough researches about side effects were made, seeing as that is the case the drugs, which on the short range makes you in a way a better physical soldier, weren't suspected to cause the troubles drugs make
as you can see in the articale it was mainly used against france and poland as they are weak enough to make the drugs last the entire war
using it against uk or russia would make german fall quicker than it did

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I doubt Blue would ever touch marijuana. He's made it clear he doesn't like drugs and will never use them.