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Need help for a 'must-lose' battle

Started by King Wing, July 13, 2007, 07:56:24 AM

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King Wing

*waves*

I'm a noob when it comes to the RPG Maker, having only discovered it a few days ago. I've been lurking for a while, but I haven't seen anyone ask a question similar to mine so I signed up to ask...

I'm working on an intro scene on RPGM '03. In it, the hero runs towards the villain to stop him from destroying a special 'magic' tree the hero worships. This initiates a boss fight you're not meant to win (in fact, the villain kills the hero before the ATB bar fills up once). The battle is meant as a cutscene, but I can't stop it from leading to the Game Over screen.

So my question is: how can I make a 'must-lose' battle which doesn't lead to the Game Over screen?

Also, how can I slow down the different part to an event? I want the villain to walk up to the 'magic' tree and cast a spell on it, but he ends up casting the spell while walking towards the tree.



Thanks in advance. :)

Deliciously_Saucy

Too easy ^.~

For the first, make an event, click enemy encounter, in the "Defeat Handler" area click the "Execute custom handler" point.

For the second, you must insert a "wait" after the walking command for how ever many seconds it takes to walk to the tree.

King Wing

QuoteFor the first, make an event, click enemy encounter, in the "Defeat Handler" area click the "Execute custom handler" point.
I've gotten that far already.

It says on the Event Commands box:

<> Enemy Encounter: Normal
    : Victory Handler
     <>
    : Defeat Handler
     <>
    : End

I'm sure I'm supposed to put something under Defeat Handler, but I don't know what. :-\


And thanks for clearing up the second problem. :)

Deliciously_Saucy

Put nothing under victory handler, and your normal, story continuing commands in the defeat handler.

Was that what you where doing?? If it is, let me open my copy of 2oo3, which I haven't done in a while and check it out...

King Wing

#4
Ahah, I figured out what I was doing wrong. I did this:

<> Enemy Encounter: Normal
    : Victory Handler
     <>
    : Defeat Handler
     <>
    : End
<> Message: Bla bla bla
<> Message: Blabbitty bla
<> Move Event: Bla bla bla

I didn't realise I was supposed to put all the following commands under the Defeat Handler.

Which brings me to the last of my noobish questions (for now, at the very least): How do I stop my event from repeating itself? I mean, I want it to happen only once, but it happens every time I enter the area the cutscene is in. Is there some sort of precondition I need to set?

EDIT: My last question (and this is the last): How do I change my character's walking speed? After the cutscene, he starts walking about 2x faster than normal...

modern algebra

Well, if you're never returning to the area you can erase event if that command is in 2k3. The best way to do it is to turn on a switch, then make a new page and condition it on that switch.

Deliciously_Saucy

Another way to stop the event from looping in more detail is;

In event, the first command is "Conditional Branch" if switch "XXX" is OFF.

In the handler (that will now be on the event table) "Branch if XXX switch is off", put in your entire cut scene, and add to the end of it, "Move Event- Turn on switch XXX" and "Erase event".

The event will now never repeat.

As to the speed thing: That's the normal speed of the hero, it was only slower because of the event in which he was moved told him to move slower then normal walk speed. To my knowledge you can't change the hero walk speed outside of events.

King Wing

I formatted my table like so:

Quote<> Branch if Switch [0001] is OFF
  <>
: Else Handler
{{Cutscene}}
  <> Move Event: Villain, Switch ON
  <> Erase Event
  <>
  : End

But it just froze up. :(

As for the speed... When I played the game before initiating the cutscene, the Hero walked at an normal pace. I tested the speed after the cutscene and he was running at least twice as fast. I think the event is effecting the walk speed somehow...? :-/

Deliciously_Saucy

#8
Quote<> Branch if Switch [0001] is OFF
  <>{{Cutscene}}
  <> Move Event: Villain, Switch ON[Make sure this is turning on switch 0001]
  <> Erase Event
: Else Handler

  <>
  : End

This is how it should look.

As for the speed, uhhh I'm not too sure, it's 2am here and I'm quite sleepy... If I think of what's going on, I'll post it up.

King Wing

Arh, this thing refuses to run properly. I'm following everything you say, but it's just not working.

I've fixed it temporarily, so that the first thing that happens in the game is a girl gives you a custom one-of-a-kind item. I made it so that the item is a prerequisite for the event, and I also made it so that the villain steals the item during the cutscene. The cutscene's not repeating itself any more, but I feel the solution is a bit unsatisfactory.

That, and the walk speed is still screwed up.

Knight Rider

??? well if you could post the event here, ill be easier to me to fix it....

King Wing

I would've posted the event earlier but first my computer kept freezing up and now Imageshack isn't loading.

Knight Rider

Quote from: King Wing on July 13, 2007, 07:20:39 PM
I would've posted the event earlier but first my computer kept freezing up and now Imageshack isn't loading.

hmmm....well ill just keep waiting.... ;)

Kuroi Kajii

   For the speed thing, check all of your move commands for both the villain and the hero and any other event you moved. If you used an "increase move speed" somewhere then make sure it's paired up with a "decrease move speed" somewhere after it. That's the only thing that I can think of that will make your character go Speedy Gonzales like that (I did the opposite once and turned my hero into a sloth.)
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King Wing

Funny thing, I figured out how to fix the speed a few minutes before I read your post. Thanks anyway. :D


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#15
Quote from: Deliciously_Saucy on July 13, 2007, 08:49:34 AM
For the second, you must insert a "wait" after the walking command for how ever many seconds it takes to walk to the tree.

Why not just use "proceed with movement"?

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King Wing

QuoteThe switch that turns on has to be the same switch you have in the fork condition. The one you named. Is it the same one?
Yeah, it is.