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Homosexiality - Right or Wrong

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What do you think about it? I personally think it is very wrong, and that humans were not made to love someone of the same sex. If adam and eve really existed do you think they would want there future children to be gay?

Lets hear your opinions.

I'm tolerant of it. Mainly because homosexuals seem to be very kind.
I don't see why people have a problem with them so much. To much hate in the world I suppose.

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if they existed and humans were not evolved from apes then:
they will only have kids of their own
forcing their kids to do it with each other
the result? damaged babies and the end of the human race at some point not too far from there.

whats weirder is how those 2 only had 2 kids, both were boys and 1 killed the other.
now tell me how the hell is it possible ?
whoever wrote the bible clearly just showed examples of don't lie don't kill so on, he made it obvious so people won;t think there is a god.

for your question:
it happens if the right area is created.
human brains are very flex, if you only see guys (such as in boy-only, girl-only schools which actually existed and maybe there are still some i don't know) it's natural for some to start thinking the other way when they simply don't see the right answer cause it's not there.

where were the gays and lesbians in history? why did they come out only about 50-100 years ago?
simple because at the time and all of the history before it the family was the group, family told you everything you know and that's it.
then they told you to marry this and that girl, no way to mistake cause in every house there were both guys and girls and no one wants their own family... -.-

so then there were boys-only girls-only schools, why not together? cause girls were considered "less the boys" like a bunch of pets that only multiply and take care of the kids
well.. that is their natural cause but how come the boys were told they can become more than hunters? weird..

but now, thanks to that there is an option so people don't see it strange if they are confused about their sexual identity.
they even fall for the confusion, after all there is a period of time in which boys hate girls, girls hate boys, and sadly certain parts of the mobs are more confused than others.

but remember- it's not the gay people's fault.
it's the entire society who told girls they can't and forced it to happen.
shame on you stupid god believers for following the bible guidlines which clearly say that boys are better than girls.

so don't hate them- hate god, hate the god believers and hate yourselves for hating those who couldn't avoid it.
don't hate people just cause they were born to a society that forced something on them.
(that's why hating a muslim/christian/jew only cause they are and not cause they are dumb enough to believe in god(or otherwise if you believe in god then just hate cause it's another religion) is a dumb thing to do .
but again, they didn't hate person X cause he is diffrent, they did it cause society told them something which is wrong.
don't hate blacks, don't hate muslim, hate morons and hate the soceity that made you feel like it's easier to hate those people)
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I say homosexuality is wrong. God made one man and one woman for
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wrong... on alot of levels... Its a fetish... almost the same level as child porn but not as bad... i dont consider people who are homosexual to be bad people as i would people who fiddle with childeren as with homosexuals the other person doesnt mind. Yet they have a simlar mental problem... i work with some homosexuals and we get along fine, just cos i think its wrong doesnt mean i think they are bad people or anything.
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I am with Zeriab...

Don't care much really...

God never said it was wrong... that was written in a bible... and I think the bible has no more truth than the sun news paper...LOL

Adam and Eve had two sons Kane and Able... No daughters that means One of em slept with his own mum... or both of em did... Eve must have been spit roasted most days... I bet she had trouble walking... Any ways... The bible also says insest is wrong (SO may be God Does also)... But If the Bible is full of truth... Mary didn't ask to become preggerz... so God Rapped her there-fore breaking one of his own rules... The Bible and God are the biggest contradiction going... it gets re-wriiten almost once every 50 years... soon the New New testament will be released... I HATE RELIGION !!!!

I hate it far more than Gay people...  I would rather watch two gay people at it than the Jesus army washing peoples feet in my local town... Sod what the Bible says litterally...

Gay people though do make me Cringe... its not nortmal to me... but if its normal to them and they are over 16 then let it be !!!
 


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Don't care much really...

God never said it was wrong... that was written in a bible... and I think the bible has no more truth than the sun news paper...LOL

Adam and Eve had two sons Kane and Able... No daughters that means One of em slept with his own mum... or both of em did... Eve must have been spit roasted most days... I bet she had trouble walking... Any ways... The bible also says insest is wrong (SO may be God Does also)... But If the Bible is full of truth... Mary didn't ask to become preggerz... so God Rapped her there-fore breaking one of his own rules... The Bible and God are the biggest contradiction going... it gets re-wriiten almost once every 50 years... soon the New New testament will be released... I HATE RELIGION !!!!

I hate it far more than Gay people...  I would rather watch two gay people at it than the Jesus army washing peoples feet in my local town... Sod what the Bible says litterally...

Gay people though do make me Cringe... its not nortmal to me... but if its normal to them and they are over 16 then let it be !!!


You obviously never read the bible, they did have more children later on. And God isn't human, therefore he doesn't need to rape a woman for her to become pregnant and I very much despise what you just said, though I understand why you said it and I forgive you.

And God does say it's wrong in the Bible.

I can't at the moment, but I really hope someone will give you a bible, and I hope you read it.
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Being is like saying (Uber nerdy) Software and another Software can make a computer work. Well, being that there is no hardware, there parts cannot connect therefore the computer is not a computer, just a bunch of CDs that will get old and useless and die out because they can't be used. Gay people, if everyone was gay, we all would be dead. Therefore being homosexual is wrong becuase they don't connect or don't connect correctly.

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They can connect but.. ><

If the earth was gay, it'd last about as long as the average human life expectancy. The sewers would run creamy white with.. ><

Everybody would be so.. ><

We're not designed for it quite simply. I know somebody who is gay clearly just to be different.

"I'm an outcast! Nobody likes me, the world is so wrong"
"Oh hey I'm an outcast too! Nobody understands me, I'm so different from anybody else"
"I am who I am, I don't need anybody else to give me my individuality"
"OH MY GOD You so understand me!"
"I do you too.. *sniff* I'm very grateful for all this, you truly are a close friend.."
"Why don't we plug each other to show our appreciation?"
"OMG OKAYS"
"*plug*plug*plug*lick*plug*plug*suck*plug*plug*fap*plug*plug*plug*"
"But wait? There are other gay people out there?"
"We're no longer different! OMG! We best kill ourselfs, our lives have become nothing more than stereotypes... hated stereotypes.."

Of course not everbody is gay in a similar way to my fictional example given above. And the line is not always so thin between homosexuality and ..emo-ness. Although it's never far of course.
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Lol, wtf was Silverline?
Omg.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I know this one emo kid, her grew his hair out like a girl, wears fingure nail polish, wears girl pants. It's a wonder if he's still straight.

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This ties in alot with my post in the abortion topic...

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I live in the United States, a country founded on choice and freedom. Just because you do not like something someone does, unless it is directly harming someone else, then that is just too damn bad. You do not have the right to take someone's freedom of choice just because you don't like what they might choose.


People have a right to do whatever they want. It is not as if their gayness in some way effects you, other then if you are of the opposite sex there is no chance of you getting with them (the horror?). I don't think people have any right to say wether or not is or is not okay for someone else to engage in a certain sexual behavior, unless it is somehow effecting them personally, or society at large, in a negative way.

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I know for a fact that homosexuality has been around for hundereds to thousands of years. Particularly in ancient Greece. It is only recently that it has been so public and so widespread, and that so many people have had a problem with it. In many cases in history it was accepted as normal, or simply not thought of as particularly unussual.

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i think whoever wants to be a homosexual can. Its not up to us wether its right or wrong, its up to them.


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...Lesbians are hawt...



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you sure? My PM box is empty...

but back to the debate...

anybody?

OK, gay marriage. Same thing, let em do whatever the hell they want.

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Homosexuality isn't wrong.  People have a right, some people are different. Nothing in this world is perfect, and maybe if the thoery of reincarnation is the truth gays and lesbians could originate from in the past being someone of the opposite sex.

Sure i'm christian, and believe in god and all that.  But just because god said it was wrong doesn't mean it is.  Also if god does exist, the likelyhood he really said that is 99,535,750,000 to 1.

Personally I'm stuck between, and can't exactly decide until I try both.

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i like THIS debate. we should debate about what breast size is best looked at next XD

just kidding...

any more debating about homosexuality?

i dont get why guys are all for lesbians, and not for gays...odd

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Guys = Hard, muscular, chunky, seweaty, hairy, large, rugged, studry, tough, bearded, deep-voiced, ETC

Girls = Soft, smooth, round, cute, curvacious, sweet, etc
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Guys = Hard, muscular, chunky, seweaty, hairy, large, rugged, studry, tough, bearded, deep-voiced, ETC

Girls = Soft, smooth, round, cute, curvacious, sweet, etc


hm...good point. what abotu the wiry guys though?

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Well all the ladies seem to love gay japanese men.

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Well all the ladies seem to love gay japanese men.



japanese or anime? yaoi is wrong. Yuri, on the other hand... :whoa:

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I am talking about yaoi here. Most girls seem to love yaoi. I don't claim to support it, I am just making an observation.

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I am talking about yaoi here. Most girls seem to love yaoi. I don't claim to support it, I am just making an observation.


it butchers our favorite charcaters. I mean, CLoud and Seph? NO! now, the ladies with eachother, thats different...

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Well fan yuri butchers female characters in the same way, but you rarely see any females complain about that. In general it seems females are more open to that kind of thing then males are. Probably because society insists that guys should be this typical straight jock family man bread winner shit, where as many females have broken away from their stereotypical rolls and are less bound by what is expected of them. (However of course there are plenty of sexist assholes out there who think women shouldn't be in the work place and stay at home and have kids and blah blah blah.)

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Well fan yuri butchers female characters in the same way, but you rarely see any females complain about that. In general it seems females are more open to that kind of thing then males are. Probably because society insists that guys should be this typical straight jock family man bread winner sh*t, where as many females have broken away from their stereotypical rolls and are less bound by what is expected of them. (However of course there are plenty of sexist assholes out there who think women shouldn't be in the work place and stay at home and have kids and blah blah blah.)


ya, isee hwat you mean, but anyways...i dont get the pioint of being a lesbian if you're just gonna use penis-shaped didos. i mean, the real thing would be much better...

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Haha, I've heard some girls say a good vibrator is better then a penis.  :?

Anyways, not all of them do that... In fact I know one who would never do that (or so she says).

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Haha, I've heard some girls say a good vibrator is better then a penis.  :?

Anyways, not all of them do that... In fact I know one who would never do that (or so she says).


lol...well, whatever. they can deny having "urges" but we all know its bullshit.

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Do we? Its not like we can really know what they're thinking. =/

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well, i dunno...maybe. ah well, good night, we should get back on topic next time though.

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Me i coulnd never become gay or even do it for 1 day. but i have nothing agenced gays/lesbians they are still people to me. even if my religion (cristern) says its bad i dont realy follow my relions rules. one of my old friends was a lesbian. but people said she was wrong to think this way and was even givern a lectrue as to why its bad. and i think thats total bullshit, if they whont to be that way so be it, its up to them and only them

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don't be stupid lesbians are good
gays are bad

lesbians= good
lesbians= hot

gay= make me puke.

there is no shame in being a lesbian and letting others watch!

and there is alot of shame in being gay but since it's not even close to as horrible as following a religion then it's ok. (just away from my sight thanks)
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You obviously never read the bible, they did have more children later on. And God isn't human, therefore he doesn't need to rape a woman for her to become pregnant and I very much despise what you just said, though I understand why you said it and I forgive you.

And God does say it's wrong in the Bible.

I can't at the moment, but I really hope someone will give you a bible, and I hope you read it


Tsunokiette... you have posted often in my thread on the paranormal... I am so sorry if I offended religion... I just hate it when people say the Bible says it wrong so its wrong.... the Bible says naff all about drug dealing but people do it... so is that OK...? (The Bible was written when it was OK to crussafiy people... that should say things in very loud words...)

I think I am gunna start offending you again... any Chritians out there please read no Further

I think Jesus was a drug dealer... thats why his de-siples followed him every darn place he went for free hand outs... and thats why they saw many odd things that Jesus was said to have done... they was tripping their Nutz off...

Take for example the feeding of many... may be they had the munchies after a setion on the Bong and ate the grass they sat on and got full that way, Grass and fish & bread all look the same if you suggest they do when stoned...

May be thats why Jesus Washed peoples feet, he was collecting funguss spores to make a new version of Skunk... collected D herb !!!...

Some religions say Alchol is bad... my Mates a morman... but why then did Jesus turn water into whine... Cuz he was an Alcholic too...

Now I may burn in the firey depths of hell for this... But do I care Nope !!!

Cuz if I don't think God exsists it was from his lips that the word of the devil was 1st spoken... so I don't think the devil exsists either...LOL
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OK Christians you can start reading again....

I think religion and faith is great if it keeps you doing right from wrong...

I don't like it though when you question peoples sexual prefference cuz the Bible says its wrong... especially when james and john are both sailors on a small boat with no women around (You know what I am saying)... And Joseph in his multi-colour jacket... now thats as queer as it comes, Jason Donavon played that part... Oh and I don't know of a single preist thats not Gay or a sexual pervert of some kind...

Ooopps... May be I should have said all Christians read from this point... But sod it its late and I am going to bed...

Bible bashers I am sorry for offending you... but if it helps I HATE all relgions...

And as for this Thread... Gay people should be allowed to do what ever they want... but lets put em on an Island called Gay-atopia and let em live there... that way if Aids does gop air born we can nuke it....LOL
 


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LMAO! thats hilarious. Jesus, a drug dealer. hehe...


anyways, im pretty sure the general opinion is that sexes thing that homosexuals of their sex are wrong, unless htey themselves are homosexual.

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You obviously never read the bible, they did have more children later on. And God isn't human, therefore he doesn't need to rape a woman for her to become pregnant and I very much despise what you just said, though I understand why you said it and I forgive you.

And God does say it's wrong in the Bible.

I can't at the moment, but I really hope someone will give you a bible, and I hope you read it


well in the original (meh... you realize the original is the base for the other 2 which were made by a pacifist drug dealer and the islamic jihad) god didn't make no babies
for a reason... the original god couldn't do such sick things like raping virgins
then again... when you do read some of the chapters you can see things like a girl can't have a baby, she asks god for a baby and in return she will do something and suddenly she get a baby
hmm...
yep god is raping virgins...
death to god and his sick raping mind!

as for saying raping is wrong...
it isn't mentioned.. cause no one would think of doing it, if you wanted to rape some girl you'd just do it cause girls can't say no to sex.
girls had almost no rights at all actually

and it doesn't really matter if adam and eve and more kids
cause after killing brother a brother b runs around the world and suddenly meet people who are obviously older than his own parents
how the hell is that even possible?
who knows.. who cares...

so the next time you read the bible remember one thing- if the first parts make no sense and if god is raping innocent girls
then stop making new editions to the darn book $#%##@
it's not like it didn't suck enough the first time...

(and there is no line at all against lesbians or gays.. they weren't invented yet...)
(there are some stuff against doing it with a member of your family though..
wait.. if you say god is like the father of adam and eve and the rest of the human kind, then when he rape stupid asking for help girls he is actually raping his own daughters? Oo)
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I say it's ok ... if thats what they desire then no problem. I don't see anything wrong with it (Not that i'm gay or anything BLUEXX!)

Even though god says it's wrong and i understand. I think it's alright for people to love the same sex. hey if thats what they want then let them be. Just because they like the same sex doesn't mean theres something wrong with them and that you shouldn't really be around them.

Infact some gay people are pretty cool. I would tell you guys a few sentences about something but i don't think i should because you guys .... are immature like BlueXx and Gongo. I can't tell them anything with out them thinkin it the other way.
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I say it's ok ... if thats what they desire then no problem. I don't see anything wrong with it (Not that i'm gay or anything BLUEXX!)

Even though god says it's wrong and i understand. I think it's alright for people to love the same sex. hey if thats what they want then let them be. Just because they like the same sex doesn't mean theres something wrong with them and that you shouldn't really be around them.

Infact some gay people are pretty cool. I would tell you guys a few sentences about something but i don't think i should because you guys .... are immature like BlueXx and Gongo. I can't tell them anything with out them thinkin it the other way.

Heh, you like to bring Bluexx and Gongo up a lot dont you? I haven't seen one post from you that doesn't mention Blue or Gongo in a good, or bad way.
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Well,i think there's nothing that can be done about it.Homosexuality always has and always will exist.I just don't like those who have to make it a statement that they're gay,and behave like complete idiots!I know some gay people and they're quite alright,because they act normal,and aren't like waving they're hand all the time,or dressed up with those hawaian shirts!!
Ok,now about the bible.People,you have to realize that the bible has been around for many,many years.Back then people didn't have half the brain we have now.The bible doesnt mean that everything written in it actually happened.It's like a big novel,that was written to make people understand right from wrong.I think this is what most religions(including my own) are doing wrong.They take it all letter by letter,when what you should be doing is taking the moral out of all the stories.Then again,i know nothing,so who am i to state that this is the truth!Another thing you have to think about,is that the bible has been through many diferent eras.In each of these eras,its not surprising that one king or emperor would want something to be accomplished,and edited the bible to fit his needs.Let's not forget that practically anyone could read back then,so it would pretty easy to do such things.I know the topic isn't about the bible,but its beign debated as well or even more than the actual topic itself!! :^^:
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i really dont understand people who say they think its wrong as long as a gay person doesnt come up to you and err... ill leave that to your imagination...

then just ignore it

also thatsmypie you might want to change the topic title to include somthing along the lines of

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im not sure of the ages of people on this site but it might be inapropriate for some at least the above gives them a warning :)

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I'm going to post my one thought on this, and that's it.

I think that if that's the way they want to live their life, then so be it. Who are we to say they shouldn't be allowed to be with members of their own gender? What's really important is happiness, so just let them be.
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As a Pagan... I'm not touching the bible thing with a ten foot pole.

Now about people being gay. It's perfectly fine, as long as some dude doesn't hit on me. Poor dude, I'd probably throw up on the guy.

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Now about people being gay. It's perfectly fine, as long as some dude doesn't hit on me. Poor dude, I'd probably throw up on the guy.

Now this is some interesting stuff!!
Are you really a pagan or do you mean atheist?Do you worship several gods?
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MAinly Odin, But i let out a prayer to Thor every once in while. I don't practice shamanism though.... I'm too lazy.

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it says in the bible that homosexuality is wrong. its a sin!
Im religous yes i am :P i beleive in god...

here are some ?'s
If god isnt real how was the world created?
If god isnt real why is there pain and happiness?
Why did people make a book about god and jesus? were they just tryin to fool ppl?

Think about that, and tell me what you think via email or PM
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Why did people make a book about god and jesus? were they just tryin to fool ppl?


Hehe, blueXx has an interesting theory on this.  :wink:
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Organized religion is the strongest form of control the world has ever seen. Think about that.

No matter what you belive, you can see the influence religion has on people. Perhaps yourself, perhaps someone you know. There is always the off chance that maybe someone organized things in attempt to take advantage of that, though it seems unlikely.

There is also the fact that religion is a great way to give life meaning. So many people struggle with the questions of why we are here, and what the meaning of life is. Religion makes these things simple, and helps lift the burden of this world from the people. It can be a very comforting thing.

There are plenty of good reasons for someone to make up that kind of thing.

Speaking of which, no one made up Jesus. Jesus was an actual person. It is simply many of the events around him, and the meanings of them, that would have been fabricated.

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Its okay, live like they want to do, but I don't think its meant to love the same sex in that way. If all people would be homo's we wouldn't exist. :shock:

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it says in the bible that homosexuality is wrong. its a sin!
Im religous yes i am :P i beleive in god...

here are some ?'s
If god isnt real how was the world created?
If god isnt real why is there pain and happiness?
Why did people make a book about god and jesus? were they just tryin to fool ppl?

Think about that, and tell me what you think via email or PM
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heard of the bigbang? the one missing link is the energy needed for the explosion that created the start of a process which still goes on and start too many years ago to have a number for it (imagine how old is earth, now think ho many planets already died and had the lifespan of earth or longer, imagine when they were created and imagine how many years a planet takes to take form
you can't imagine how many years ago was the bigbang, so many 0s it's just twisted.

how do you fill up the energy thing? (it's missing only because energy cannot be created so it had to come from somewhere.. where?)
an interesting theory, and the only reasonable one is that the space actually got limits, it's limits are so far i am almost certain humans will never reach them (if they do that's gonna take so many years earth will die by then)
in other words, just like humans discovered earth is round, maybe space is just as round, if you compare space to earth, we are tinier than germs, silly 1 cell creatures that by mircale found a way to reach from 1 glass to another and are very happy about it.

so in other words, there is something really powerful out there that makes glasses and tables and what not knowen as universes
who knows what the point of it..
though i am certain that thing is at the same position as us, it got something more powerful than it that makes the glasses he is on.

it's some sort of an endless chain seeing as there is no way to explain how the energy got to whats outside our universe

pain and happiness? go learn biology.
they are both nothing but waves sent from part X to the brain.
they are none but tools that help us human apes to survive.
just be happy you got a thumb.. that's the only reason you are "better" than the other animals

and lastly, the bible, as i explained before, is nothing but a law book.
it used the unawareness of people back then to teach them why should rules like this and that be kept
the original was in fact written at a point in which many tribes made gods out of wood or stones
thats why the idea of god was thought of, it was a very "futuristic" thought compared to the ignorance it takes to call a chair god.

actually the idea of a law book is not original bible thing either, nor the creating the world thing is.
it was all already done in asia of the past.
only that the rules back then went like "if person X kills someone's son and that son isn't a slave then person X's son will die, if he is a slave person X will pay 10 coins"
i swear that's how the rules looked like.

so the person who made the bible thought "hmm why not make rules a bit more fair.."
he explained with alot of stories stuff about why following all the laws and by making god he stopped people from worshiping chairs

but i do belive it's about time the ignorant mob of the world will move on to the next stage... -.-

heh i love talking about that XD

jesus btw was a pacifist jew, his mom was jewish and so was his dad.
now let's assume maria was a virgin and yet she had a baby...
i wonder..
how yes, she was having fun from the side without anyone knowing
and hell, why not making her a saint for it

surely that weirdo got something new to the picture "if you are slapped turn the other cheek"
but how stupid is it if no chritian ever followed the one new thing he added?
freaking christians made more pointless wars the the islam itself
and you call yourself christians?!

funny how no beliver actually follow their own little bible
no beliver ever read the bible either
anyone who reads the bible become and atheist.
well almost anyone... some people got brainwashed too deeply

wanna know what i think about gay people?
they are sick and if they lived 500 years ago they would have their heads on a tree.

and yet, since we evolved so much that babies simply hardly die in developed countries they are important seeing as their family trees stop with them which means that they lessen the world hunger  :twisted:

btw side note about the energy thing: if any of you will claim god made the energy then i want you to tell me what made god.

also note that the being that made the energy from outside our little universe couldn't have possibly talked to the germs of earth
but go ahead and tell the germs in your glass what to do and punish them when they don't
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You see blue.Finally i can understand your opinion.I thought you were just one of those guys who just said they don't believe in anything,but didn't do their homework, looking around for answers.All the stuff you said is really the same way (or very close to) as i see things.The only diference is that you say that how the energy always existed is a missing link.To me thats the answer that makes me want to believe in God.You see,that energy IS GOD (my opinion).Everything uses energy,so thus God is everywhere.This also leads to the Ying Yang theory making more sense to me then God and the Devil beeing two rivals.To have good you need bad.There's positive energy and negative energy.And thats how your car starts.Thats how you turn on your kitchen light.And thats how you live.
You see i believe in all scientific explanations.I just dont think they disprove the existence of a superior beeing,rather then just re-inforce it.Everything is just to perfect to have "just happened".The way nature works,the body of all living thins,the way we all relate,and we all are made of the same thing.Thus the saying that we where made out of clay.It's a very basic explanation,but it is true.No someone did not grab some clay and molded us,but we are made from this planet just like everything else.Nothing is created,nothing is lost,everything is transformed.You die,your body rottens in the earth,the plants feed off the earth,you feed of the plants...we are all one and the same earth,just transformed into diferent shapes.
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so you say you believe the energy is god and therefor you say god exists.

i ask, if god= energy and energy is well knowen not to talk too much explain to me how come god keeps talking in the bible and got all the time in the world to teach humans his laws while since he is that energy he also creates so many more planets the numbers are too high to count
that's what i find weird and impossible in the whole "god said this , god said that, god told people to write the bible" theory

btw, if you used the search button to find the religion topic, you'll see i did explain my point of view.
you will also see how not even one of the belivers provided an answer to how come the being who talked to the humans for so long exists.
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You see,i ask myself the same questions.I am not stating nothing but my opinion,wich is very unfounded,and i dont know anymore than any of us here.There is not an answer,therefore,you have the choice to believe or not.Even though i also have all these doubts,i just prefer to give it a possibility.
I have not search for the topic like you said,but now that you mentioned it,i'll have a look at it.I bet its got many interesting points of view.
The thing about God,is i dont think we could understand such a thing that is far more superior than us.We don't even now our own potential,like what our brain would be capable of if we used it to its fullness.So how are we going to understand the infinite?It's to much for our small litte brain.If God exist,imagine the knowledge He would have.It would never be possible for us to understand such things.
Well,i better start focusing on something much more easy to compreend and thats still kicking my @$$.You question on the event trivia  :shock:
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Blue, do your god damn homework. Homosexuality has been around for a long ass time. And as I said before, in many (many, certainly not all) places and times before now it was actually fairly accepted in society. Of course in some societies it has been a rather controvercial subject (like it seems to be in ours), and in yet others, primarily highly religious societies, it was looked down upon. The point is that homosexuality is no new issue, and yet you keep acting like it is.

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The Romans for example thought it was perfectly fine.

Also a side note, The Romans also thought it was okay for a married man to get prostitutes on the side. So yeah I think modern society has slightly different veiws on sex in general.

Also the greeks thought it was perfectly  fine too.

Over here in Mass gays and lesbians can get married.  So maybe because I'm from crazy liberal new england I don't mind people being gay.

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I just think people are allow to choose whatever they want to be in live, if they want to be gay than let them be and for people that say I hate gay people should really reconsider, since you never know if one of your son's or daughter's might be born as one or become one.  

There's this family that used to live in my town, since people still talk about it sometimes and I heard it around town.  I heard that the father always used to say bad things about gay people and calling them names and cursing them all the way to hell.  What this father didn't know was that his son was gay.  He found out later on when the son had a car accident, before he died he told his parents about it and they were shock.  Especially the father.  He also found out that his son wanted to tell him about his gay side but was to afraid that his father might hated him for what he was.

That story is true and it happen about 8 years ago.  The Mitch family was their last name.  They moved away to another city after one year of their son's death.

I know many people don't like gay people and they think they should be bannish or dissappear from the face of the earth.  My final question is, if men put on a wig, makeup, and lipstick on, will that make him gay.  Have you ever consider america's funding fathers.  They used to do this everyday by the way.

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Blue, do your god damn homework. Homosexuality has been around for a long ass time. And as I said before, in many (many, certainly not all) places and times before now it was actually fairly accepted in society. Of course in some societies it has been a rather controvercial subject (like it seems to be in ours), and in yet others, primarily highly religious societies, it was looked down upon. The point is that homosexuality is no new issue, and yet you keep acting like it is.


define new
i define it 100-200 years
it's not a thing from ancient times, it's just a thing from around 1800-1900 or so
if you think it's older.. go ahead and show me i am wrong

it's a time thing, it's all effected by the way the world looked like between 1800 and 2000, the western world changed fairly alot
people just figured it's ok to be diffrent, and since it's ok why not trying weird stuff that nature didn't plan
who knows what will be 500 years from now in this rate ~_~


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My final question is, if men put on a wig, makeup, and lipstick on, will that make him gay. Have you ever consider america's funding fathers. They used to do this everyday by the way.


no that just makes him weird and rejected by the human society that sees the diffrent as the enemy
you didn't hear about the "america's funding fathers" doing the other thing gay people do?
heh if they did that, they wouldn't be "america's funding fathers" alot of people would agree at that point of time that such "shameful behavior" deserves a punishment
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Once on a holiday I went on with some friends I got dressed up in girls clothes and had makeup on and everything.

I had a kinky top on and a bunch of socks in there to give me some big boobies :^^:

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When I went into some toilets later to get rid of all the makeup they'd put on me there were like 6 burly men in there; they so looked at me like "Seriously : WTF"
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why the hell did you do such a thing? >>
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hmm so basicly , lacking the recorded history saying "i am gay" they all just stand on art or stuff from 1500 and up

now as for the art, most of the so called guys look like girl with balls
did it cross their mind that it might have meant that girls should be equal
or that it means that this is a strong girl like any guy?
of course not.

so if i look at the art like that (because the bodies are always a guy and a girl with penis, or almost always)
and since the next in line proof are death punishments laws from 1500 i'd say i stick to my opinion
this is odd and is a result of allowing people to think nothing is wrong

seeing as a death punishment was there to punish such criminals i would be quite certain that there weren't many of those people
if there were many of them the punishment wouldn't be so deadly .
since it was changed to jailing at 1700~ i would say that it was this point in whcih it actually became a bit more popular
and still, having such rules only in certain places mean that it wasn't common at all in most of the world
because other "small groups" (aka jews, and others less knowen ones) always had laws against them all over the world
thus i believe there weren't many of them around, at least not a large enough number to be spotted, in this case i would say that the seed was there all along but no one watered it until 100 years ago or so
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I personal see nothing wrong with homosexuality, it is their bodys and thier rights to do what they wish with it.

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Being gay is gross...


Hey Zxmelee, u forgot to put a big fat LIKE in between "Dont be a faggit" and "ZXMELEE"

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Nothing wrong with it.

All the biblical reasons suck.

The people who say "it's wrong 'cause God said so" are the same people who enforced the KKK, who enforced Hitler, who enforced witch-burning.

In the future, you'll be hated.  :D
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I say homosexuality is wrong. God made one man and one woman for
a reason. If homosexuality were alright, the God would have made 2
men or 2 women to be together.

I am Bisexual and ive been made fun of all my life.But Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard (No offense) Its very unoriginal just like the "God made adam and eve not adam and steve" Quote.
It is not wrong,And plus he did not make one man and a woman together for a reason.He made a MAN and then he made a woman to make him not lonely not to be his Lover.

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I could really careless. If people want to be carpet munchers or fudge packers then it is on them. Just don't let me see it.

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yar hide yourself gay boy

let's just say.. the more people like you , the less the world's hunger problem.

it's a good thing gay people stop their family trees, it's funny how they are actually suiciding cause of it.
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WTF are you talking about.I said im Bi.Not gay
And im not stopping my family tree i still have a straight side to me.

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yay you are only half brain damaged...
tsk...
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You dumbass. Let me guess your one of those bible nerds aren't you.

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lol now the gay boy gets angry
define bible nerd though.
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Those fucken dumbasses who say "God hates you and you are going to hell" or those people who say "Man aren't you glad your a christian! Now we won't go to hell"
There is no definition.It just is a dumb person who goes around telling people that jesus loves them.

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Those fucken dumbasses who say "God hates you and you are going to hell" or those people who say "Man aren't you glad your a christian! Now we won't go to hell"
There is no definition.It just is a dumb person who goes around telling people that jesus loves them.


wow it shows that you don't read my posts...

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well
a. god , at least the one who talked to morons in the bible and so on, DOES NOT EXIST.
b. go ahead, and insult mine, they were the original ones, and they were old just a bunch of old and dumb people that either heard voices in their heads and needs to be sealed in a mad house or were made up by the twat who wrote it

insulting the god... i thought it's the same god which seems to be moving around every time some wannabe decides he is a prophet... ~.~


but hi let me try it on you

jesus is a freaking wannabe, he is no god nor son of any god, his mom is a whore, seeing as it was written she was a virgin, so in other words she was busy with some guy and she decided it's cooler to say it's from god

here... now let's see who will be insulted cause some moron that was killed almost 2k years ago is being called a wannabe just cause he heard voices in his head while he took his daily drugs ~.~


and even if you were right, you are still brain damaged cause humans are beasts and beasts, as nature's way are only there to multiply
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Yeah sure. Whatever,I just hate christians they piss me off.
And if we were here to multiply..Why would i be brain damaged?They're IS a way to reproduce if you aren't straight.Have you ever heard of a sperm bank?

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i am not sure monkeys head of such a thing
nature didn't think and shouldn't have allowed humans to obtain such technology
curse your thumb.. curse you...it's all thanks to the thumb we have to work and study and get paid low while others steal from us.

curse you thumb.

and don't insult christians.. they still have more firepower so it's not a good idea
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I got chased out of town from insulting a christian o_0 They still wont even look at me straight. But i am not a christian I agree with you everyway on the christian part everything else is just .. Crap.

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it's crap cause you have no idea what you are talking about and i proved it to you ~.~
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No you have no idea what you are talking about.I study Life.
What you said is completly wrong

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say whatever you want, i want you to prove i am wrong
which btw doesn't make any sense

there are 2 basic assumings you have to know
a. every beast needs to multiply, it's the specie survival
b. humans are no diffrent, they are designed like any other beast.
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Because first of all.HUMANS AREN'T BEAST.They are classes of the living Factory.Just like Plants and Animals but there is no Human class.Animals and Plants is all there is.Sure we need to reproduce but that is how the world will end.Over population,Trees cut down,Animals die,No meat,Soon everyone dies.
What im trying to say is HOW THE FUCK AM I BRAIN DAMAGED.If you were Bi i wouldn't go up to you and say "Ok your half brain damged"But you did.You are wrong.Because your not even explaining my answer your just saying society was meant to reproduce.That doesn't explain how I am brain damaged.

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i said half, your lower parts seems to be going 2 ways
if it became worse you'd be fully damaged.

human male are meant to be with human females

humans ARE beasts.
humans ARE apes
take blaze for example, he is still an ape.

trees weren't supposed to be cutted down
humans shouldn't have had supa thumb, now that they do they ruined the nature's balance

normal state- thinking of reproducing
brain damaged- thinking of reproducing with the wrong gender..
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Haha, BlueXx with the dumb 2nd grade jokes ... Pathetic. But what else would I expect from you BlueXx. Hey Mental don't worry i have your back in this one. :evil:
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I can tell your more dumb than a cardboard of bush.(Or for that matter Bush)
You shouldn't be "Brain damaged" For your sexual orientation.Yes i do believe in evolution my religion is called "Scientology" for a reason.
Because look at all the people in the world.
The only Gay brain damaged people are the Gay Priests.Because they are a mix between homosexual and christian.Infact I double dog dare you to go up to a gay person and say "Your brain damaged"
You wont get no Kudos for that.
Plus there IS NO SUCH THING AS NORMAL.
I dont think about reproducing with the same gender.Thats impossible.Im saying it is possible if you go to a sperm bank and have it implanted.That is
not brain damaged.

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Humans are beasts...they are classified as being "homosapiens et homoerectus".

Simple latin, if you hadn't taken it in school, homosapien means intelligent man, or knowing man...depends on how you translate. Monkey's are intellegent. They are able to play chess, read, decipher simple colors and patterns just as humans are. Monkey's are beasts.

Homoerectus (erect, hehe) means they stand and walk on two's. Also commonly defined as being bipeds. Monkey's aswell have been known to walk on two feet.

Em....anything else I need to add?

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Because first of all.HUMANS AREN'T BEAST.They are classes of the living Factory.Just like Plants and Animals but there is no Human class.

There why don't you read it?
They aren't beast they are animals

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Dude...or whatever you are, animals and beasts. Do the science. Are you going to school? Because it sures the hell doesn't seem like you know much about genetics or classifications.

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I can tell your more dumb than a cardboard of bush.(Or for that matter Bush)
You shouldn't be "Brain damaged" For your sexual orientation.Yes i do believe in evolution my religion is called "Scientology" for a reason.
Because look at all the people in the world.
The only Gay brain damaged people are the Gay Priests.Because they are a mix between homosexual and christian.Infact I double dog dare you to go up to a gay person and say "Your brain damaged"
You wont get no Kudos for that.
Plus there IS NO SUCH THING AS NORMAL.
I dont think about reproducing with the same gender.Thats impossible.Im saying it is possible if you go to a sperm bank and have it implanted.That is
not brain damaged.


what you and the chair called blaze fail to understand
but mainly you cause he is just a chair, is that BEASTS DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING SPERM BANK
the STUPID THUMB shouldn't exist
so when you think of guys and say "let's have sex with guys cause i am a stupid beast" you are brain damaged
why? cause the entire proccess is nothing but brain waves
your waves went to the other side...
that's all
that's damage no matter how you look at it...

and btw
beasts.. animals.. completely the same...
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Yes I do.
But we are not beast we are evolved forms of beats.We act like beast we kill everything we can find but i have not got my answer yet.How is being a "Beast"Anything like brain damage.

Ok now..That your post has been posted while i was talking.Heres your god damn answer.They don't say "Lets go have sex with guys" No they don't its called hormones.I get attracted to both genders i dont go out and feel like i wanna have sex with both genders..It simply Means i am attracted.God damn you people.Im fucking sorry but i have to bring up brain damage again."Being attracted to both genders isn't brain damage and you know it! Sexual orientation beside Heterosexual isn't brain damage and you know it!"

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Holy shit! We have a break through! Humans do kill everything. From plants, animals, the earth, ozone layer. We are the most destructive animals on this planet. Woot!

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Yes I do.
But we are not beast we are evolved forms of beats.We act like beast we kill everything we can find but i have not got my answer yet.How is being a "Beast"Anything like brain damage.


the brain controls your need to multiply
if that need is translated by you as a male like the female need (aka to sleep with a male) then your brain waves are damaged.
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Blue, it's not exactly brain waves...it's electric activity within the brain. Sinapses my good friend, sinapses.

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BlueXx says: Why would i lie to someone as dumb as you?

Kite says: Cuz i'm as dumb as me

BlueXx says: Good point

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heh same thing maybe i need to go back tot he english teaching book thingy ~.~

and maybe blaze will mind not to post in a place called "Intelligent Debate" unless he will of course stop posting useless stuff
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Fuck you blue,Fuck you,All you think about is my Gay side when i am straight too.It isn't brain damage for the last fucken time because there is no such thing as normal.
You know it if i gave you the word
gslfhlfjfakjfj and you said thats not normal what if i gave you the definition  then it would be 50/50 normal unnormal which isn't possible

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gslfhlfjfakjfj <<< there it is! The brain damage, unable to clearly spell words!

I'll give you my def of bi-sexual....gay. If you are a male, which I'm assuming, and you pack another's fudge...you will be forever gay. There is no straight to it.

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gslfhlfjfakjfj <<< there it is! The brain damage, unable to clearly spell words!

I'll give you my def of bi-sexual....gay. If you are a male, which I'm assuming, and you pack another's fudge...you will be forever gay. There is no straight to it.

That was just an example.I just hit the keyboard with my fist to make letters. Its not a name.
And I never had sex.What i mean by Bi sexual is i get attracted to both genders i don't constantly think about "Im gonna get laid tonight!"
No i don't

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Mental are you saying your Bi ??!!
Thats what I thought after I read your last post.
Sorry if I'm wrong
Even if you are theres nothing wrong with that.
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WTF are you smoking man,It said that for 2 intire Pages

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forget him he is feeling leftover when people are trying to debate
anyways everything i had to say has been said.

you can go "fuck you" all day long if you want
it just adds new levels to your brain damage
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gslfhlfjfakjfj <<< there it is! The brain damage, unable to clearly spell words!

I'll give you my def of bi-sexual....gay. If you are a male, which I'm assuming, and you pack another's fudge...you will be forever gay. There is no straight to it.

That was just an example.I just hit the keyboard with my fist to make letters. Its not a name.
And I never had sex.What i mean by Bi sexual is i get attracted to both genders i don't constantly think about "Im gonna get laid tonight!"
No i don't
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Why are you getting angry at the keyboard? This is all just 0's and 1's....anywho. I would like to know how old you are.

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WTF are you smoking man,It said that for 2 intire Pages
Whoa Whoa! Calm down. I'm just helping you .. I'm on your side.
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Any way this is a rude topic, it should be locked.

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yeah blaze is on your side... lol
this is a debate blaze there are no sides there are opinions
no fights.
aka you don't belong
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BlueXx says: Why would i lie to someone as dumb as you?

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BlueXx says: Good point

Yeah i just wanted to make one last point..
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I'll give you my def of bi-sexual....gay. If you are a male, which I'm assuming, and you pack another's fudge...you will be forever gay. There is no straight to it.

Thats fucked up.I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND for godsake.

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If you have a girlfriend and you are gay, you must be a girl.

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Okay I thnk by now we've heard both sides of the subject... And I'm still sticking with 'If your gay, good for you, but don't get flirty with me.'

Although This topic kind of seems like it's getting out of conrtoll a little, some one suggested locking it. I think they might be right.

Im not a girl!
Im a boy im not gay Im Bi For pete's sake.

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Alright, ok.  :D  Well needless to say in my opinion that it is up to the individual. So that's that  8)

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OMG This reminds me of recess when I was 8. Everyone cool your jets! If he is bi, then relax and don't make fun of the kid! Blue! Thats way to mean man, take some chill pills.

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You have to take into consideration the age of most of the users here. About 12-16. They're not too accepting of everything just yet. (I'm not talking down to anyone, but it's true.) You have to accept that if you tell people from that age group you are gay or bi, then they're just not going to accept you, and they'll make fun of you for it. We live in a world where it's socially acceptable to hate people who aren't straight.
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I dont even know blue much.But from this thread...
I can say Blue is a bitch.

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Alright, this is getting a little out of hand. Discuss it maturely or the topic will be locked.
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Fine.But im used to people making fun of me for being Bi.But you know what?They probably will have a boss who is Gay one day.And they wont even dare to make fun of him.

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ARAGGH. This bullshit literally made me yell out loud!

Blue, stop being a fucking narrowminded asshole, and Mental stop being retarded!!!

As long as someone's sexual oriententation does not effect YOU SPECIFICALLY, who gives a shit! Its their choice. Mental isn't doing you or anyone else just because he gets a hard on looking at some hot guy.

And although we are animals, and no better then animals, we do have opposable thumbs, making us capable of many more things then your standard animal. "To find answers one must only look to nature." I firmly belive that. However, it must be taken with a grain of salt. We do have the technologey to explore alternative paths. If reproduction is the goal, then I see no reason it would be better executed the old fashioned way then through a sperm bank.

Well... I guess I don't have any specific arguements against mental. He just sucks at defending himself. Personally, I don't like him. But there is no good reason to attack him just because of his sexual orientation.

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Alright, you're bi...who cares? You are you right? Peace  8)

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ARAGGH. This bullshit literally made me yell out loud!

Blue, stop being a f*cking narrowminded asshole, and Mental stop being retarded!!!

As long as someone's sexual oriententation does not effect YOU SPECIFICALLY, who gives a sh*t! Its their choice. Mental isn't doing you or anyone else just because he gets a hard on looking at some hot guy.

And although we are animals, and no better then animals, we do have opposable thumbs, making us capable of many more things then your standard animal. "To find answers one must only look to nature." I firmly belive that. However, it must be taken with a grain of salt. We do have the technologey to explore alternative paths. If reproduction is the goal, then I see no reason it would be better executed the old fashioned way then through a sperm bank.

Well... I guess I don't have any specific arguements against mental. He just sucks at defending himself. Personally, I don't like him. But there is no good reason to attack him just because of his sexual orientation.

Ugh! I do defend myself.Im brand new im not trying to get on the wrong hand here.But God Damn I AM FUCKING TIRED OF YOU PEOPLE WHO ONLY LOOK AT MY HOMO SIDE!I just want you dumbasses to think  I am just like you.No matter who i date will make me any different..God, is it really Important to just start saying things about me.It personally is all Blue's fault.I was just stating i was Bisexual because this is a thing about sexual orientation.Then blue comes out and goes" You better hide yourself Gay Boy!"
You see,Im done. Blue keeps bringing it up.

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Maybe your the one who keeps bringing it up? Let it rest now man, I'm telling you. Some people are going to see that post, and they are going to post something worse, and then you are going to see THAT post, and then you will go off and defend yourself...and looky children, another flame war.

Just chill  :D Read a book or something

Just like the song goes: don't worry, be happy...dooo dooo do do do DOo ...something like that.  :oops:

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I personally just see it as wrong because it's clearly not what us humans are supposed to do. A the level of instincts and genetics and whatever. I don't really have an opinion on the mental side of it all.

But hey, we're not supposed to download mp3s and stuff illegaly, or drink and look at porn while not yet 18 but I do all those ~
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LOL im laughing at both Viper and Silverline,
I (This time im not debating about me im debating about homosexuality in general cause im trying to bring the topic back on track) Honestly don't see anything wrong with homosexuality I don't believe in Normal. Because nothing is normal.Youve probably heard that quote about 80 million times but it really is true You cant say the word Googahslahd and then give a definition of it.They are normal and un normal. So there really isn't a normal Sexuality.Just because of most people being straight...That doesn't mean being Gay is "Un natural" or "Not normal" And now about EVERYONE thinks it is un normal because now rappers show girls shaking there body (If they are a boy)And write Sex lyrics about them.Like "Shake that laffy taffy" And no effense to people who listens to rap but it is true That you will probably NEVER find a gay rapper.

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Being gay is un-natural though. Gay couples can't re-produce. An island of gays would last as long as their life expectancies.
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Homosexuality IS unnatural. As silverline said. Of course, that being said, I don't think there is anything wrong with unnatural things. Buildings are unnatural. Money is unnatural. Just because it isn't a natural thing doesn't automatically make it bad...

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what would i do if i woke up gay one morning....

Option 1: Find a man and rub repoductive organs against one anothers
Option 2: Pretend i wasnt
Option 3: kill myself as i must have some seriouse mental problems

Answer: Number 3
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If being gay is un natural then why are there Billions of gay people?
That doesn't sound Un Natural to me.Gay couples can't reproduce But they can be formed into 1 (Intercorse) And i know you don't wanna hear those kinda details but they can still have sex.Again.Sperm banks is kinda reproducing if you look at it right. Because it makes more of its own kind.
See? That still is a type of reproduction cause even straight people do it to.

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Billions? Now you are going to the extremes here...maybe millions...but not billions.

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Clearly you did not read my post. We are surrounded by unnatural things. Nearly everything created by humans is unnatural. The houses we live in, the jobs we work at, the money we spend, much of the food we eat. Government, politics, war. All these things are unnatural. To say that just because many people do it it must be natural... Well, you have but to look around to see that you are wrong.

No there are over a hundred billion people in the world.Each continent is probably about 6 billion people dpending on how big it is. Being gay isn't that un popular. In europe where i can tell most of you live. When i lived there it was very religiouse so many people were probably against it.But down here in the United States.Most people here stopped believing in god and ether supported the gays (Just to show people it really isn't a sin) Or were gay. It is more popular down here.

And gil, Paper is made from natural resources and so are the jobs we work at.And dont let me remind you money is printed out Paper.And thebodge dont be a homophobe its not cool man.

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im from england =/ and US people are way more religiose than us and i say...

Being a bum bandit is wrong, Your anus is an exit not an enterence.
If you post outside the sewer, don't expect me to see it.

No in americathey actually give us days off.In europe you go to school 6 days they were originally gonna make it 7 days but  they wanted people to go to church. And your Anus isn't an ass.Its an organ dumbass.Don't you take school?PLUS That is exactly what straight people do.Not only gay people.

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Nooooo, your intenstine leads to the anus exit. The anus is the opening (god this a gross subject). Don't you take school? Or should I say...don't you go to school?  :lol:

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no i dont take school anymore fool.

Anus + ass = same thing i didnt mention it not being an organ or being an organ for that matter

also i refure to talk to you in any way shape or form as i find your sexuality insulting to the rest of the human race.


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So about that money...
Okay to the dude that said there's like a hundred blilion people on earth..... I thought there was roughly 5-6 billion. And China's population was almost 2 billion, so for billions of people to be gay half of china and at least a quarter of the population of other countries would have to be gay.

Sorry guy saying bliions of people are gay just doesn't add up.

Last time I checked, 5-6 billion people on earth is a more accurate number than saying hundreds of billions. Well if you want you can count animals to get the billions of gays thing, but it hasn't been proven that animals can be gay... So yeah I'm sorry dude. Billions of gays doesn't work.

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No there are over a hundred billion people in the world.Each continent is probably about 6 billion people dpending on how big it is. Being gay isn't that un popular. In europe where i can tell most of you live. When i lived there it was very religiouse so many people were probably against it.But down here in the United States.Most people here stopped believing in god and ether supported the gays (Just to show people it really isn't a sin) Or were gay. It is more popular down here.

And gil, Paper is made from natural resources and so are the jobs we work at.And dont let me remind you money is printed out Paper.And thebodge dont be a homophobe its not cool man.


Woah, woah, WOAH! There are not over a hundred billion people on earth! The planet cannot support that much life! We would all surely be dead if there were that many people inhabiting this planet.

And for argument's sake, if this were true, your math would be way off. 6 billion people per continent? Do you know how many continents there are? Not counting Antarctica, you're saying now there are roughly 36 billion, which is stilll waaaaayyy off.
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(Well there's 5 pages of tripe split off to spam. Continue there if you gotta)
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If being gay is un natural then why are there Billions of gay people?
That doesn't sound Un Natural to me.Gay couples can't reproduce But they can be formed into 1 (Intercorse) And i know you don't wanna hear those kinda details but they can still have sex.Again.Sperm banks is kinda reproducing if you look at it right. Because it makes more of its own kind.
See? That still is a type of reproduction cause even straight people do it to.


but that can damage your body and possibly give you diseases.
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Okay good thing this topic got cleared up. I don't see anything wrong with gay-ness. But on the flip side, iI hate Emos. I be one strange man.

Also I'm actually surpised as many people said gay-ness is wrong as was said.

Also I think if you get to know some one who's gay, gay-ness becomes normal and acceptable to you. I used to have a gay room mate. And like my mom used to not like gays untill she met my roomate and was, oh wow he's cool.

And also you cant say "Homosexuality is wrong.Because its gross!" Thats not  a reason at all.

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Of course it is a reason. The Anus isn't designed for sexual acts, it produces no lubrication when you're aroused, hence it's easy to rip or scar the tissue inside. Plus there's the obviousness that you will get peices of the person's faeces on your penis.
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Last i checked they have ORAL not ANAL.
They dont do that at all.And i said saying tis gross is not a reason

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You can't just take reasons you don't like and say they don't count.

You're not allowed to defend gay people because you're Bi, that's not a reason.

Either way, sucking another guy's penis isn't gross? Not to mention how unhygenic that is.
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Quote edited by Sam to show reasoning in posts:
1.You can't just take reasons you don't like and say they don't count.

2.You're not allowed to defend gay people because you're Bi, that's not a reason.

3.Either way, sucking another guy's penis isn't gross? Not to mention how unhygenic that is.


1. Yes I can you know why? Thats the dumbest reason ever just to say "Its wrong.Because its gross to watch a boy to kiss another boy!" Infact THAT IS NOT A REASON thats an opinion

2.Yes i can.I am defending them right now.Doesn't matter if im Bi or not.And
plus i know how it feels to be treated like shit from people like Blue.

3.Ha have you heard of vaginal sex? Yeah that is way more unhygenic and so is anal too.Oh yeah and you shouldn't say its GROSS because everyone has different opinions.

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For number 2 I was parodying you :|
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Yeah.
We can see that but "WOOPY DOO"

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gay people and drugged people should be chased humilated and killed
that's my new opinion after i got to know a person who use drugs and is gay all at the same time

DEATH TO THE BRAIN DAMAGED

You hate my sexuality so much you want me dead.
FUCK YOU. Im gonna come over to your little house one day and break your fucking jaw.Its not the first time ive done it. I dont care if i get arrested again it was fucking worth it.A person called me gay and now hes in the hospital from me beating the shit out of him.

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gay people and drugged people should be chased humilated and killed
that's my new opinion after i got to know a person who use drugs and is gay all at the same time

DEATH TO THE BRAIN DAMAGED

You hate my sexuality so much you want me dead.
f*ck YOU. Im gonna come over to your little house one day and break your f*cking jaw.Its not the first time ive done it. I dont care if i get arrested again it was f*cking worth it.A person called me gay and now hes in the hospital from me beating the sh*t out of him.


I swear you a bloody retard.
You dont even know where bluexx lives (niether do I XD)
lol, why degrade yourself more by saying your gonna break his jaw. And then you seem proud of yourself that you've been to jail (apparently) how much for of a freak do you wanna be?

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I find the whole breaking a jaw and going to jail sort of thing a little childish...because you know for a fact that it didn't happen. What did the police do? Arrest you and put you in a cell for 3 days then release you while "the so called victim" was still in the hospital? Come on now, assault is far more punishable than a couple of days in the pokey.

Your probably a little scrawny boy that cannot even lift over 3 stones on a good day....what an asshat.  :roll:

Its not like a hit him with a gun.It happened on the bus. i was there for about 2 days.Only cause it was a school incidence.

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Then it happened under school district jurisdiction. Punishment for that would either be suspension or expulsion from school. Law enforcement are only brought in when there is something extremely severe...such as shootings or stabbings. Then you would be carted off to jail.

Like I said, the story doesn't add up.

EDIT: ALSO, expect a lawsuit for damages or...wait...it never happened in the first place.  :roll:

EDIT AGAIN: Another thing, your signature is way too large as has been stated before in many other posts. Your signature includes graphics and text that should be no bigger than what was previously stated. It's quite annoying.

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Hey blue give me a deffinition of Crack addict.

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whats a definition of a twat

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The term is more commonly used to indicate the following:

    * A fool
    * One who behaves in a childish, extroverted manner
    * To hit something (or someone) really hard
    * To become drunk or otherwise intoxicated - 'Let's get twatted'

There is an urban legend that "twat" is a term for a gravid goldfish.
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I just took a definition of it
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Vulgar Slang. The vulva.
Offensive & Vulgar Slang. A woman or girl

Im not a girl you dumb bitch


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twat, yes it is taken from that definition HOWEVER
it's like saying you are a "dumbass"

it doesn't mean your ass is dumb....

and acually i have no idea what the hell is a gravid goldfish... go ahead and look if you want, doesn't look important to me
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whats a definition of stupid.

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Mental, that is something a grade school child would post. What is the definition of this, what is the definition of that...merely to try to inflame someone to get them angry. Don't provoke it for pities sake.

However if you want the definition of said terms, I'm sure you have a dictionary lying around or there are a couple of websites that provide excellent meanings for words.

I.e. Dictionary.com

Cheers

No im seriouse sam.
whats a definition of me


You spelt it wrong.
Its just a dumb clothes thing

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Whats the definition of important


Did he just say that? I thought every one has their moments, but this takes the cake.

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Whats the definition of important


Did he just say that? I thought every one has their moments, but this takes the cake.

Its me trying to piss you off.
Wait..What cake

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Mental I am not sure if that is your attempt at being funny...which is kind of dry if you ask me. But "taking the cake" is a figure of speech. It means simply that one has seen it all in a point of it being enough. If that makes any sense to you at all  :whoa:

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where were the gays and lesbians in history? why did they come out only about 50-100 years ago?
simple because at the time and all of the history before it the family was the group, family told you everything you know and that's it.
then they told you to marry this and that girl, no way to mistake cause in every house there were both guys and girls and no one wants their own family... -.-



this was the first time I went through this topic, but I had to say something...you might be an intelligient person BLUE, but goddamn sometimes youre stupid!  Gays have been around forever!  The ancient Greeks were almost all gay(until Caesar made a new law forbidding gay and pre-marital sex...i.e. where the word FUCK[fornicating under caesar's kingdom]came from!)  Alexander the Great had a gay lover.  The Greeks basically used Women just to have kids and they thought they could be more intimate with men especially young boys (don't ask me?!) How you could say that gay gays have come out in the past 50-100 years I'll never know.  The words FAG and FAGGOT and Queer have been used to make fun of gay people for literally centuries.  I'm sorry, I just thought that was a dumbass statement.

PS I don't think it is right for guys to be gay, but I am tolerant.  I wouldn't want a gay roomate tho

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Whats the definition of important


Did he just say that? I thought every one has their moments, but this takes the cake.

Its me trying to piss you off.
Wait..What cake


There is no literal cake. Mental you picked a good name, appaerantly somethings wrong in that Emo head of yours.

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ok let's put in another way-
the more "free" the people feel, such as in a democracy, even like ancient greek, the more it is likely they will start think weird stuff and try new things
they have been around forever but on really low amounts
the freeier the world is, the more of them show

i would actually believe nature has a big part behind it
humans multiply too fast at times of peace as no war kills them, for those durations of time, nature has to take action by selecting people and stopping their family trees with them.

heh... maybe nature should be let go with it, there are too many people as is, but being doomed sounds kinda bad, shame they don't realize that nature is just playing tricks on them >>

the reasons i stated before just help that thing spread maybe even above nature's original plan.
holy shit my sig was big!

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I thought the saying was takes the biscuit...
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/29/messages/60.html

But what ever... Mental... by name Mental by Nature...LOL

I aint keen on what Gay people get up to... The thing I dislike the most it they increase the chance of Aids going air born...

Easy Solution... put all Gay people on an Island of their own and if Aids does go air born amoungst them... Nuke it !!!...LOL

(I think all Drug users, via Needle, should also be placed on an Island... and us NORMAL people can place bets on what Island will get Nuked first !!!)
 


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I thought the saying was takes the biscuit...
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/29/messages/60.html

But what ever... Mental... by name Mental by Nature...LOL

I aint keen on what Gay people get up to... The thing I dislike the most it they increase the chance of Aids going air born...

Easy Solution... put all Gay people on an Island of their own and if Aids does go air born amoungst them... Nuke it !!!...LOL

(I think all Drug users, via Needle, should also be placed on an Island... and us NORMAL people can place bets on what Island will get Nuked first !!!)

yet ANOTHER blind person.THAT IS FAIRLY WELL ILLEGAL.  people are scared of gay people because the first aids were found in gay men.But you know what?Those men are dead anyway.AIDS IS NOW being found in heteroes who are cheating on their wife.Those people are selfish bitches anyway.

ALSO
You dumbasses actually thought i was really meaning it didn't you? You actually thought i didn't know what the word IMPORTANT meant..Yi Yi Yi you guys need a wake up call.I chose MENTAL Because my name is Sam there is a game called Seriouse Sam and i played it cause it looked cool and had my name in it. The last boss of the game was named Mental.I chose it because he was a mysterious person in the game in fact they never showed his face.I am VERY mysteriouse and plus hes in the game with my name in it.
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BUT YOU DUMB BITCHES ALSO FAILED TO RELIZE THAT I WANTED TO BE BI.Its not a disease dumbasses.I CHOSE to be Bi i wasn't Born Bi i wasn't going thru a seizur and wake up Bi.So I AM NORMAL. I wanted to be BI. Look lets have an example.Blue CHOSE TO HATE DRUGS.Hes normal.I guess you could say that.

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I thought the saying was takes the biscuit...
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/29/messages/60.html

But what ever... Mental... by name Mental by Nature...LOL

I aint keen on what Gay people get up to... The thing I dislike the most it they increase the chance of Aids going air born...

Easy Solution... put all Gay people on an Island of their own and if Aids does go air born amoungst them... Nuke it !!!...LOL

(I think all Drug users, via Needle, should also be placed on an Island... and us NORMAL people can place bets on what Island will get Nuked first !!!)

yet ANOTHER blind person.THAT IS FAIRLY WELL ILLEGAL.  people are scared of gay people because the first aids were found in gay men.But you know what?Those men are dead anyway.AIDS IS NOW being found in heteroes who are cheating on their wife.Those people are selfish bitches anyway.

ALSO
You dumbasses actually thought i was really meaning it didn't you? You actually thought i didn't know what the word IMPORTANT meant..Yi Yi Yi you guys need a wake up call.I chose MENTAL Because my name is Sam there is a game called Seriouse Sam and i played it cause it looked cool and had my name in it. The last boss of the game was named Mental.I chose it because he was a mysterious person in the game in fact they never showed his face.I am VERY mysteriouse and plus hes in the game with my name in it.
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BUT YOU DUMB BITCHES ALSO FAILED TO RELIZE THAT I WANTED TO BE BI.Its not a disease dumbasses.I CHOSE to be Bi i wasn't Born Bi i wasn't going thru a seizur and wake up Bi.So I AM NORMAL. I wanted to be BI. Look lets have an example.Blue CHOSE TO HATE DRUGS.Hes normal.I guess you could say that.


Your screwed when crankeye returns  :whoa:
Also shut up, if we wanted your life story we would have asked  :evil:

Ha ide blame it on you all.I MEAN LOOK AT BLUES SIGNATURE FOR GODS SAKE.That is flaming wether crankeye says it or not it still has a thing that
says go choke and die on it.

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His sig is pointing out that noobs at the forum *cough*You*cough*
Should use the search button and stuff before posting something like "duh, how do I make a dude say something"

No it says "DO US A FAVOR AND SUICIDE"

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Exactly, what is so bad about that? LOL

THAT IS FLAMING.

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He is just expressing his opinion Mental...you know an OPINION.

However I think it should read "Do use a favor and COMMIT suicide...just sounds a bit more appropriate.

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It is mere opinion, just ilike your opinion is to have homosexiality to be right. see?

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He is just expressing his opinion Mental...you know an OPINION.

However I think it should read "Do use a favor and COMMIT suicide...just sounds a bit more appropriate.

I know but it is flaming.ME.It even says "Mental i made this for YOU"
 :o .

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He is just expressing his opinion Mental...you know an OPINION.

However I think it should read "Do use a favor and COMMIT suicide...just sounds a bit more appropriate.

I know but it is flaming.ME.It even says "Mental i made this for YOU"
 :o .


I don't know why you continue to let it bother you? Actually holding a decent conversation with someone will do wonders with your reputation with people not only on these forums, but as a whole. It is just your attitude to bicker and argue makes you seem like a n00b through trying to get your point across.

The key to understanding and holding a decent conversation is not to open your mouth on subjects that you do not have any knowledge of. If you try and throw something out there that is completely random or what makes sense to you then, more than likely, you are going to get those ideas smashed if they are either (A: Wrong B: Seem random C: Retarded in nature)

I hope this makes some sense to you.

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lol, mental, face it, you cant win, everyone is against you, just live with your crappy opinions and i'll live with mine!

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I'm sure that not everyone here is against him, he just needs to think before he posts. If there is a subject that he is not completely knowledgable of, it is better for him to learn more about it than to open his mouth and make him seem like a twat.

But as of right now, those members who are in high regard of these forums do not seem to think so highly of you Mental. But times change, as so things change also.

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Maybe this is coming a little late, but this has gone far enough. I think we know where everyone here stands on this issue, and I seriously doubt anyone is going to change anyone else's opinion on the matter.
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Sorry for re-hashing this old topic but I felt to share my knowledge of the subject.

Anyway,
to start off, what I learned in a college human sexuality class is that the basic human templet is female.
With the introduction of hormones and such the body does change.  enlarging the clitoris to eventually become a penis.  I dont recall all the stages but some type of hormones convert the female body to a male body and the the testicles produce testostorone which in turn mentally changes you to a male.
There is times that this process can be interuppted and only the body is changed without actualy changing the chemical//physical composition of the brain to reflect the bodies changes.
Thus, you end up with a guy who feels like a girl (some cases)
There are those cases where you just have a VERY confused guy.

The idea that homosexuals have a choice to become gay is just absured, almost as absurd as you haveing a choice to believe in God, buts thats a different topic.  Given your knowledge of santa claus, can you at this moment choose to believe in him.    It just isnt possible to actualy CHOOSE to believe in something, you believe in something based on your feelings and intuition and knowledge.

So moving on, I dont remember the actual statistics but there is a very LARGE percentage of the male population that have "experimented" with members of the same sex. I wouldnt be surprised if a couple of you reading this has... Good luck in getting anyone to actually admit it thou.

There is a huge stigma placed on guys to fit into a certain box.  You have to be emotionless... Strong...  etc.  The minute someone steps out of this box he is labeled gay.  Or any other name you can thing of that reflects a feminine quality.  Just think of all the nick names there is for male sexual anatomy.  They are almost ALWAYS derragatory.  I will save your eyes by not listing them.

Lesbianism and Bisexualality in females has overtime gathered a certain exoticness to them through society and I believe this is somewhat sad and wrong.. Although I can't complain at the sight of a couple girls going at it(speaking from experience).

However most of these girls that do it because it is "in" are really not bisexual.  They may be able to walk the walk but the feelings inside usualy tend to be absent.

I guess the point I am trying to make is this:

There are people out there that have a scientific explanation for being homosexual.  This fact alone should change your view.  Just like there is scientific evidence that certain people have mental disorders - a chemical inbalance so they have a medical condition... just as some or maybe most homosexuals have as well.

Not to mention those people born with both sex organs or no sex organs...

So my personal opinion is that they should be free to do what they do, they should EVEN be allowed to have marriage and ya know what,,, my life is complicated enough - i dont have time nor do i have right to look at anyone else's lifestyle and judge them....


questions? class dismissed.

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Can this thing be locked.

Grave digging is bad.

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So about that money...
I'm notifying a Mod.

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POSTING BEFORE LOCK

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It was locked before the forums went down... but after they came back up, apparently all the locked topics became unlocked.
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