Event Trivia - mark has won!

i kinda broke my copy of rpg maker xp i can fix it but it will take awhile

answer from what you remember, your time is running out.

if you really don't want to lose i suggest you'll uninstall and reinstall or start hoping over half the players will answer it all wrong in which case everyone will stay in the game but seeing as they will have a big damage to their points they will probably won't hang in the game for long

8 hours left people.
pm quickly

its ok now it just loaded up wrongly

I see you've made it work.

Btw. blueXx we need to sync our clocks... there's 16 hours left right now...

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:05 pm

oh wait crapness you are right
i forgot pm/am switch at 12

so that means there are hmm... (it's almost 6pm forum time now so..)
18 hours and 10 minutes ~_~!

(unless am/pm of the forums change at 1...)

*Edits, punches self in face, apologises to blue and zeriab*

well , some of us don't read the rules.
pie you are out of the game unless you'll edit it before anyone can see.
please read the rules.
PM the answer

edit:
pie edited , i was watching the users and the only ones who could see are me and zeriab and some guy who isn't in this contest so we can let it slide this time

edit 2:

20 minutes left boys and girls, 20 minutes only
i had 0 pms and last time zeriab pmed me he hardly got any
any pm outside the time limit will be disqualified.

as time runs out zeriab will post the scores and the solution, remember scores are kept for the entire game.

ok guys
i actually think half of you are out lol
but in that case everyone are still in until only 1-2 can get out at a time
zeriab will post results and the solution later

you now have 24 hours to solve this next riddle:

young civilian14 lives in the grassy area of her empty town.
she wants to go to the sand areas.
though in her town the guards only allow grownups on the sandy areas



she needs your help to work the magic of eventing of how to make her a grownup (by transforming into mage08).

but there is a catch, she enjoys being young and she doesn't want to put any efforts into the magic.(as in no "if button pushed" is needed)

she needs you to make it so that when she touches sand she will be a grownup but as soon as she is on the grass again she will be the young girl she is.

the map looks like that:



your objective:
making an event that will help her with her little problem.

if you can make an event with the same amount of lines as i did (Will be showen as the solution after 24 hours) you will obtain 1 point, if you can actually use less lines, you will obtain 2 points.
for 1 extra line you will get to keep the 0 and for every extra line after it you will lose a point.

if your event is over 5 lines longer you will get -5
if it doesn't work or if you failed to pm it to me(blueXx) or zeriab in time you will lose 10 points.

good luck

Edit: An correct answer:
I just took the image GilgameshRO made because it was the smallest pic.
I didn't bother making a pic for this event since it was soo easy. All who answered gave a correct answer.



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thatsmypie
Answered fully, but in the topic.
Luckily the post was edited before it was too late.
Still a punishment has been decided
0 points received

Tsunokiette
Did not send an answer
-2 points received

HaloOfTheSun
Did not send an answer
-2 points received

mark:
Answered fully.
1 point received

Ramiro
Did not send an answer
-2 points received

Percifit Citate
Did not send an answer
-2 points received

ahref:
Answered fully.
1 point received

GilgameshRO:
Answered fully.
1 point received

deadly_diablo:
Forgot to write the specific message the event should show.
The circumstances however made us consider the answer as full.
1 point received

inmoriam:
Did not send an answer
-2 points received


List of players: (The first page will be continuously updated)
1. 1 point - mark
2. 1 point - ahref
3. 1 point - GilgameshRO
4. 1 point - deadly_diablo
5. 0 points - thatsmypie
6. -2 points - Tsunokiette
7. -2 points - HaloOfTheSun
8. -2 points - Ramiro
9. -2 points - Percifit Citate
10. -2 points - inmoriam

also tsu is the first to answer the 2nd question.
he added that due to not being able to access rm he quits.
his answer btw was worth -5 points (it worked but required loads of more lines)

anyway, tsu is out cause of his own little tech issues

List of players:
1. 1 point - mark
2. 1 point - ahref
3. 1 point - GilgameshRO
4. 1 point - deadly_diablo
5. 0 points - thatsmypie
6. -2 points - HaloOfTheSun
7. -2 points - Ramiro
8. -2 points - Percifit Citate
9. -2 points - inmoriam

out of the contest:
1. -7 points - Tsunokiette (after 2 questions,Reason:  tech issues)

Damn, I hate my computer. OK, hopefully this time I'll be able to send an answer.

hurry up halo only 15 hours left lol XD
not that i want to get some people disappointed but if you make it work even with 100 lines over my "most effective" way you would still not be in the last place
(in other words even though i only had 3 answers[and 1 of them is tsu and he is quitted] 1 is already wrong.)
so same goes to the rest of you, it's still open.

Meh,ok...i have a doubt.
I know you can only make one event.Now can this event be one that you could copy/paste in other tiles,or does it have to be just one single event to work on the whole map??
Please answer me before my time runs out!! :|
EDIT:Lol,i was blind...dont mind this.I'm sending the answer right now

I know what you're trying to do... But know that it really can be done with just one event. Which is really alot more effective. Even if you could use more then one event I think the total lines would have to be counted. As such you would still lose 5 points. =/

Yeah,thanks for the help.But i figured it out.This thing has proven useful already.I just learned something i didn't know yet!! :^^:

Yeah,thanks for the help.But i figured it out.This thing has proven useful already.I just learned something i didn't know yet!! :^^:

That is very good.
It means one of our goals have been reached.

I know what you're trying to do... But know that it really can be done with just one event. Which is really alot more effective. Even if you could use more then one event I think the total lines would have to be counted. As such you would still lose 5 points. =/

some of you should have done it because some of you messed up so bad they got -10
and wanna hear something sad? only 1 person got -4 the rest got -5 or -10

you'll find up who screwed up the most in 5 minutes

that's right people!

5 minutes remaining so send the final answers quickly
edit:


ok time is up, put your pencils down and cry.
no really some of your should cry

let's star with my solution:


well of course it's a para as it saves alot of lines.
this will first only check the player X so it's more effective (though seeing as i had to check y all of those who checked X and Y didn't lose a point for that since all i asked is the least lines and not the most effect)
well once we found that X is 9 or smaller we don't need to add a thing, she has to transform to a mage.
otherwise we check if y is 3 or smaller , if it is she has to be a mage if not we are left with the grassy area.
and no one at all made it the same or shorter.


ok so first comes first served.

Although I do know that the events would have to be hero touch event (hero on top of event) and you use the Change Hero Graphic event command to change the graphics from the Civilian graphic to the Mage08 graphic and vice-versa.

well tsu.. even though you do know how to get easy -5, you still quitted.

<>Change Hero Graphic: Mage08

The event needs to be set to "On Hero Touch", and "Below Hero". It also needs to be placed on all the sand tiles that touch the grass ones, except for the corners. What the...

Next:

<> Change Hero Graphic: Civillian14

"On Hero Touch", and "Below Hero". Set on all the grass tiles that are adjacent to the sand tiles.

in other words... so many events = so many lines = -5
at least it works.

wow that guy is so pleased with his event he wrote his name all over
let's assume it worked, it would have been -5 as it's even longer than the hero touch
but if poor c14 will stand on any of those events she will keep changing
the result:



need  i to say? -10.

now gilg.


he was actually close.
he was the only one who almost had it
and then he screwed it all up.

gilg, if y isn't smaller or equal to 3 i believe it has to be bigger or equal to 4
if x isn't smaller or equal to 9 then yes it has to be bigger or equal to 10
you wasted branches
wasted lines
in total the price was -4/-5
i decided to give you -4 and ignore the last "Else"
because there couldn't possibly be any else.
please be more careful next time, and well done for only having -4

how can someone have such a great promising start and still ruin it and destroy the event completely?
notice- your first branch is not connected to the rest
she will keep changing into mage8 all the time for 0.1frame, enough for the guards to see



and the switches had nothing to do with anything
they made it worse, once you the first condition will be met the switch will forever be on.
it's just a complete chaos that gives you a -10

well it's long so it's already -5
there is alot of chaos there that could have been solved if instead of if x= or iif y= you'd do >= or > or <
it's like you are checking something dumb and then cover for it later

well it seems like in walking she will be fine though, but the day she will learn to jump 2 cells she will be in troubles...
i am really not sure if to give you -5 or -10
i am really wondering..
i think i'll give you -5 for this one, cause for now it works and you are on the right way.

everyone else didn't send and thus got -10

also i have decided that "Percifit Citate" is out because he didn't even get the pm in time so he is not active.

table up soon.

blueXx will post results and the solution later

We've decided to go a bit easier on you.
You now have 24 hours to solve this next riddle: (Starting from this first edit)

I have made this Common Event:

What does it do? (brief explanation)

Why is it unsafe?

A good and full answer will yield you 2 points.
Not answering at all will yield you -5 points.

The last question has a bigger weight than the first question when judging.
Incorrectness will of course reduce your score.

If you do answer the amount of points you will receive lies in the interval [-5, 2], which means you can receive any amount of points between -5 and 2, both inclusive.

Now pull yourselves together and give good answers!

Edit: Stupid slow ImageShack. Anyway I finally uploaded it. The starting time will be from this edit. OMG, I found ImageShack.dk it doesn't seem to host porn, but I understand little of what it says.

List of players:
1. -3 point - GilgameshRO
2. -4 point - mark
3. -7 points - HaloOfTheSun
4. -9 point - ahref
5. -9 point - deadly_diablo
6. -10 points - thatsmypie
7. -12 points - Ramiro
8. -12 points - inmoriam

out of the contest:
1. -7 points - Tsunokiette (after 2 questions,Reason:  tech issues)
2. -12 points - Percifit Citate (after 2 questions, reason: inactive)
(come on people you can do better)

also- zeriab fix the image, put in on imageshack

Hehe, I should have thought that one through more. Thanks for cutting me that little slack.

The Image have been fixed. Your starting time will be moved to the first edit:
"Last edited by Zeriab on Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:16 pm; edited 1 time in total"

Funny, it worked on all the squares I tried it on.  :O_o:

Oh well. Let's see this then.

Uh,, what version of RMXP is this??

i am not saying it doesn't work for the eye
it does, but the eye is nothing.

first of- seeing as your switch can only be turned on this has no use at all
once it's on it will never be turned off and that's why i find it quite useless

basicly this is how your event work:

the para checks first condtion:
if x is smaller or equal to 9 then - change into mage (so far, perfection)
-a seriously useless switch is turned on.
else
it changes you to c14

now, let's assume you are at any point on x=10 y =3
for 0.1 frames (invisible to the eye) she will become c14 ON SAND AREAS
this is just why i decided to judge your event as unusable.
the eye of the guard is always watching

it keeps going.
if y is smaller or equal to 3 (thanks for suddenly figuring it out but you are 0.1 frames behind) she will become a mage
again , you are running late, you should have conditioned it inside the first condition.
and now goes a funny part.
else
(as in if you are at the grass area)
if the switch is on (you touched the left sands already) don't do anything.

so let's assume she wanted to go to the sand areas
she is now at X=9 and she is a mage, a switch is turned on.
she goes back to the grass areas but...
she is still a mage!
now she cries for her lost youth and it's all your fault.
but the tears only last for 0.1 frames as the para goes back to the start and since she isn't on X <=9 she becomes c14 again

the result?
she was a mage for 0.1frames on grass for just 1 time
and for 0.1frames she was c14 on sand areas EVERY time the para works (and that's alot of times)

1. i wrote my name on it to prove it was mine and i didnt grab anyone elses
2.you should change the rules because i dont have time to do this everyday.
3.number 2 question was slightly confusing for me


ill do the questions as soon as i can but i probably wont be able to each day

btw. i have no idea about question 3


bah i quit haves fun everyone else

dont you dare call me a sore loser

time is up, zeriab will post the results later.

new riddle for whoever is still on their feet.
(a notice pm will be sent later when the table stands and everyone who needs to be kicked will be kicked)

ok so c14, as unhappy from all the extra lines as she might, needs your help again.

a really rich lady passed in the sand areas of c14's town (makes you wonder why c14 needed to go there so badly)

she invited the rich lady to a short game of guess the number i think about
the rich lady accepted though she said if out of 100 tries one will be right c14 has to become her slave forever and ever and then some

c14 gladly accepted hoping she is backed up.
(if she wins she gets half of the rich lady's money and she might just be willing to grant you a point )



ok so here is what you need to do:
make an event to help c14 not being able to ever lose.
it has to at least look like she is randomizing her numbers and not waiting for the rich lady to tell her the number or otherwise the rich lady will think c14 is cheating and it's game over for c14

the first line will thus be variable1 = rand(1,13)
(in other words the number has to be between 1 and 13)

to end your event you will say the rich lady's number and c14's number

everything between those 2 lines has to be made by you.

this is a fairly easy question

and again, every extra line is -1
same lines is 1
and less lines is 2
worse lines reduce is -5
and failing to get it working or to send the solution (and forcing poor c14 to become a slave) is -10

good luck to anyone who is still in it
something tells me this is one of the last events so try not to make an idiot out of yourself.

good luck.

Well only 2 answered. The rest get's -5

1. I belive it is intended to allow you to restart a "level" or room, teleporting you to a temporary room, and then back to the starting location (I am assuming that is what "First_Event" represents) of the level or room. However, it simply teleports you to the temporary room.

2. Well... for one, you will get stuck in the temporary room. Thats the only "unsafe" thing that I see... Assuming this event actually worked right, you also don't reset any of the switches or anything, which could potentially cause problems.

PS: These questions don't seem to involve much real event knowledge... Maybe you should have also asked us how to make something like this work?

It does work. All you need is consistency. You need to make sure that you place the first event on every map where the event might be invoked.
You'll be stuck in the temporary room if and only if you trigger the event in the temporary room and have malplaced the first event.
-2

Answer 1:
 The common event assigns three variables.
 Variable 1 takes the id of the map the player is on.
 Variable 2 sets the variable equal to the first event relative screen x coordinates
 Variable 3 sets the variable equal to the first event relative screen y coordinates
 Next,a teleport command transfers the player to a second map,specific location being x coords=10; y coords =10:
      Transfer Player:[002:Temp_Map],(010,010)
 Another Teleport command transfers the player using the three variables assigned before.
      Transfer Player:Variable [0001][0002][0003]
 This second teleport command will transfer the player to:the map id stored in variable 1,the relative screen x coords value in variable 2,and the relative screen y coords          
value in variable 3.

Answer 2:
   It is unsafe because when teleported back the player might appear offscreen,or even in a unpassable tileset. The value for x and y should be specific and not relative.

+1

well the event is basicly saving the X and Y of event1 and teleport the player to a new map and from there to the saved map and X and Y
the risks:
a. event 1 may not exist, it may be deleted after making the teleport event, it may not have been made yet.
b. teleporting on an event which may not be phasable is not a very good idea
c. the event may be outside of the actual map, in the "black zone" or on a building or anything of sort that you don't want to land on

well that's what zeriab said...

List of players:
1. -3 point - mark
2. -5 point - GilgameshRO
3. -12 points - HaloOfTheSun
4. -14 point - deadly_diablo


out of the contest:
1. -7 points - Tsunokiette (after 2 questions, Reason:  tech issues)
2. -12 points - Percifit Citate (after 2 questions, Reason: inactive)
3. -9 point - ahref (at question 3, Reason: not enough time)
4. -15 points - thatsmypie (at question 3, reason: inactive)
5. -17 points - Ramiro(at question 3, reason: inactive)
6. -17 points - inmoriam(at question 3, reason: inactive)