World Map/ Ruins Tutorial {request}

[Yawgmothsbud]

I've been working on and off on my game, but these two tilesets are the ones that keep stumping me. Whenever I try to work on maps using them, I end up getting bored and doing something else, simply from lack of progress.

Though a tutorial would be nice, I havnt seen any for either of them on here. Mainly, I have trouble connecting 3-way or 4-way wall segments in the ruins, and I cant get the land/ocean transitions to look right on the World Map.

I'd post the actual tilesets in question, but Im not so good at inserting images...But I'm using the XP WM tileset and the basic "Ruins" tileset that came with RPG maker PK version.

If anyone has pics/advice, please drop some of it here 

[shadowdude]

Well i dont have anything much to offer, but if you kep quitting cus your not getting anywhere then you never will get anywhere. If there is something you cant do right practice it, and the best way to make any map (world or small area) is to plan it out on paper/paint beforehand so you have some form of guideline... BTW if this didn't help ya then im sorry.

[modern algebra]

What do you mean by 3-way, 4-way wall segments? Just intersections? And I don't know what WM you are talking about, as there is no default in XP.

[Irock]

What do you mean by 3-way, 4-way wall segments? And there isn't an RTP world map in XP.
As for the tutorials, I haven't seen any.

[modern algebra]

There's something remarkably similar about our those two posts... 

Anyway, I don't really like the default Ruins tileset, I just tried it out and here is the best I could come up with in 20 mins. I  am sure I can make a better one if I tried longer, but where is the roof? It doesn't have enough rubble nor does it have enough variations of destroyed wall, and no thatch or shingles or anything that you could say was once the roof and is now fallen. Where are the items that were once in the house? broken stools? tables? bookshelves? Anyway, if you actually like this map (not likely) I guess I could make a tut on it, but you should probably look around and find a better tileset.

[shadowdude]

how you do that with the floor, whenever i do the floor it goes over the outside of the wall, pisses me off

[modern algebra]

Just use the segment of the tileset that looks like this:

[shadowdude]

ah, thanks man.