How do you measure intelligence

[Ravenshade]

Now this is an excellent debatable topic, as it has no right or wrong answers.

The truth is, no one knows, so the question is...

What is intelligence, how do you view it?
What is a good method of measuring intelligence.


If everyone criticizes the person above them, and comes up with an idea they think is better, I think we should come up with some good method of testing intelligence. Remember, we're not even sure what intelligence is...so feel free to debate that at any time as well.

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I have my own views, so i'll wait until someone else starts.

[haloOfTheSun]

Remember, we're not even sure what intelligence is...

Heh, speak for yourself.   

[Ravenshade]

Okay so the dictionary has a definition, but go ahead, tell me...what is intelligence, because us psychologists, think slightly differently.

[landofshadows]

Mensa in England measure itelligence by giving an IQ test... I scored 128, not good enough to enter Mensa, but not a score to be ashamed of... Average I think is 98 to 110 so I am above average intelligence by their measure.

Try working out yours for free here:- http://uk.tickle.com/test/iq.html

I tried this one just now, its pretty simular to the Mensa one, I scored 122, but I am at work and a little busy

Try it one and post your score, trying over and over is only cheating your-self

[Ravenshade]

Try www.highiqsociety.org

I hear they have a tough one.

Yet, I don't think IQ tests measure intelligence, which is why I want someone to post what they view intelligence is. Is intelligence just someone with a high IQ.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

I'm a high school dropout, my IQ is 148. 

But yeh LOS, nothing to be ashamed of there, you basically have the same IQ as the average person who has finished collage. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way.

Oh RavenShade, I get what your talking about, if I have had less to drink tonight you would have received my opinion on this matter. Good topic.

[Nightwolf]

See, there are 3 things- Intelligence, Power and Decission.
Int. And Power and not all needed, we need to decide properly.
By Int and Power, we can make kewl things like the tv, comp, but also stuff like the cannons, gunz etc.

So there Decission comes.
And after good decission, the intelligent used, even a little, even a lightbulb..is far more good than a gun.

Thats the mechanical view

now,
There are people like LOS(well he's all grown but still) he watches the news, is aware about facts of the world, know general knowledge, and also fights for right stuff and also listens to his mind
He's not like Saucy said yes, so he says yes, he has his view too.
Now he's someone i can call intelligent


How tall r u Los?

Edit: For Los's Iq test, i tried it about 4 days ago lol, i got like 118-119 lol


Kewl for a 13 yr huh?

[Arrow]

IQ Tests have a history of being flawed, and can't be used to gain an accurate measure of one's intelligence. Really, they're more of a general IDEA of your intelligence rating, you'd have to get other ways of testing to know for sure.

[Nightwolf]

But 119 for me is kewl huh?

[landofshadows]

How tall r u Los?

6 foot 4 inches why ?

But 119 for me is kewl huh?

It's above average so yeah, very good...

I find All members on here itelligent beyond their years, and fairly creative in some way.

[Ravenshade]

Height=intelligence? Meh? (sorry just looking at the end of you post and doing some assuming nightwolf)

Intelligence, power and decision? Hmm, I disagree. Intelligence is power and decisions come from the result of our intelligence.

I disagree with the common theory that Intelligence is how much you know. That's why I don't think that IQ tests are any good half of the time.

Oh and nightwolf...i have no idea what you were saying towards the end. *confused me a little*

I also don't agree with the second part of Arrowone's message. The first part yes, second part no.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

IQ Tests have a history of being flawed, and can't be used to gain an accurate measure of one's intelligence. Really, they're more of a general IDEA of your intelligence rating, you'd have to get other ways of testing to know for sure.

So, low IQ there Arrow...?

Online test are very inaccurate...


Edit: Nightwolf: 13 huh?

[Ravenshade]

Hehe...

To add to my view and to give an opposing view.

I believe Intelligence is the ability to comprehend and understand and the speed in which we can do it, and how much we can comprehend and understand at one time.

Anyone disagree.

[Arrow]

Oh no, last one I took I scored higher than my parents. I just think they need to be re-worked pretty seriously.

I agree, but that's only half of it. The other is being able to apply this knowledge, and the ability to later retrieve it from memory.

[landofshadows]

The one by Mensa is fairly simular to the link I gave... From what I recall...

But itelligence is meassured by different standards... You guys are right an IQ test does mean very little...

For example Dolphins are said to be intelligent but you don't see them doing online Net tests...

So your very correct, IQ tests are only a measure and an indercation of the workings of the Human mind... Lateral thinking rather than intelligence...

And on that note I am not sure on how to say some thing has intelligence, I guess part is being Self Aware, that would count for much in my opinion.

[Ravenshade]

I think Arrowone's comment proves my point. His parent's could easily be more intelligent than him...no offence and I don't think you're dumb, it's just parents tend to be able to understand more and faster.

IQ tests don't measure intelligence, only general knowledge half the time, and it is very ethnocentric.

[Nightwolf]

Height=intelligence? Meh? (sorry just looking at the end of you post and doing some assuming nightwolf)

Haha
Just saying, Los is so intelligent, i think his height his maximum measure of intelligence

Lol it was sorta joke, which is kinda popular

N E WAYS

Edit: Nightwolf: 13 huh?

Yes i am 13..

FFS IVE BEEN TRYING TO POST THRICE BUT GIVES THE SAME A MESSAGE WAS POSTED ERROR! STOP DAMNIT!

[Arrow]

I think Arrowone's comment proves my point. His parent's could easily be more intelligent than him...no offence and I don't think you're dumb, it's just parents tend to be able to understand more and faster.

IQ tests don't measure intelligence, only general knowledge half the time, and it is very ethnocentric.

Yes. Obviously, they had more life-experience, etc. But I was better able to answer the wuestions by the test-taker so OMG I AM SMARTER. Certain crucial things are not properly tested.

[Deliciously_Saucy]

I think Arrowone's comment proves my point. His parent's could easily be more intelligent than him...no offence and I don't think you're dumb, it's just parents tend to be able to understand more and faster.

IQ tests don't measure intelligence, only general knowledge half the time, and it is very ethnocentric.

Yes. Obviously, they had more life-experience, etc. But I was better able to answer the wuestions by the test-taker so OMG I AM SMARTER. Certain crucial things are not properly tested.

I think it's only naturel for children to be smarter then their parents. If they weren't, there would be something wrong...

So Nightwolf, wus up?

[landofshadows]

Being Self aware is the starting Block to itelligence... A PC can do math, and spelling but is not self aware and there fore its not intelligent.

What I find amazing is Ants... They have such small heads and Brains but function so well... We can't make a Droid that small that does the same... Some things in life show an itelligence beyond understanding.  I doubt we will ever make any thing as near perfect as nature does.

I guess intelligence, like in your first post to your topic is the only real answer, there is no right or wrong answer... If your limiting the debate towards people (Humans) and the measure of intelligence, I guess we can only be as intelligent as our minds will let us, and based on that basis we all have the same potential as each other and should not be compared with the likes of IQ scores... as they only measure lateral thinking and problem / puzzle solving.

[Blizzard]

Once I scored 141 on an IQ test, another time 153.
I said "NOWAI!" I can't imagine myself as a nerdy guy or something like that. People who don't know me for long due to my behaviour often assume I would be the kind of persons who has Ds all over him in school. O_o

And life experience is much better than any IQ. What point does an IQ of 200 have if you are totally naive and get fooled by anybody?!

[Deliciously_Saucy]

I would be the kind of persons who has Ds all over him in school.

I would be all over you in school, why?

[landofshadows]

OK, OK... I was wrong to bring up IQ tests... LOL  

[Deliciously_Saucy]

OK, OK... I was wrong to bring up IQ tests... LOL  

I like your "Self Aware" Point. But are humans really THAT self aware? I say that they're still in more of a transition of relying on instinct compared to being a fully self aware beings.

[Blizzard]

@LoS: Actually no, it's an interesting matter. IQ tests really are inaccurate. Just look at my score span. There was once another IQ test I took, it was before these two. I've only got 127 I think. That makes a span of 26. This is too much.