A Preface On Intelligent Debate

I make this thread in hopes that it gets stickied, and in hopes that it cleanses the vat of stupidity this particular forum has turned into. There have been several new members posting here, and primarily here, that clearly do not know what this forum is truly all about. Simply because the name of the forum is Intelligent Debate doesn't mean each and every thread has to be about religion, or the war on drugs, or the war in Iraq, or any of that shit. The point of this forum is for someone to make a thread in which they do not want spam. There have been a couple people making tons of threads that have already been made, simply because they haven't discussed the topic here yet. You know who you are. You do not need to make these threads. You do not look any more intelligent making said threads. Sure, if you'd like to discuss these topics, and have a strong valid argument or inquiry, and are not making the threads because talking about it makes you feel intellectual, then make the damn threads. But check first to see if it's already been made, so that this forum doesn't become a shit hole again.

*starts a slow clap*

*continues clapping and becomes louder*

rep++

Also many threads could have been posted in General chat instead of here. They are not "intellectual" enough IMO. *moves one topic to show he means it*

Like anyone will actually notice this. They tend to ignore stickies.

Yeh I know I didn't notice it...

If only there was a way to display that message everytime someone started a topic here...

Being able to spell should also be a prerequisite for posting here.

This was posted yesterday?

Well said. And thats a great idea, Djangonator.

yes, i think that people generally like to spam anywhere as a resort to being funny, but anyways, i think that the posts could be deleted, or the thread can move to general chat after a slow decline in intelligent debate-ness

Well, good. Now topics cannot be posted here (or at least they shouldn't be able to, I think Silver's taken care of that already).

Post topics in General Chat, and if it needs to, it will be moved here.

I like this idea.

You should thank Zypher then. <3

same, even tough I don't visit the intelligent database, I see some stupid topics/

Well how it was, Post could get moved out of Intelligent debate.

I guess its a promotion rather than a demotion, this new way... But is Gilgamesh still bale to move them from Intelligent debate back to General debate... I could see a Tennis like match happening...LOL

And what is considered intelligent by one person could be viewed as Morronic to another...

I guess with you and Silverline on the Job though and Gilgamesh look after the area it should be cool...

Boldness of the Apostles - is a bit on the Shite side... Only cuz I just posted in it though... If they are going Bald they should just wear hats... End of...LOL

Good idea, AS LONG AS SOME OF YOU AREN'T BIASED TOWARDS ASS-HOLES!

I forgive you zypher, you gave a kool idea.!

This was a good decision.

Heh, I can still post topic's here.

Well, good. Now topics cannot be posted here (or at least they shouldn't be able to, I think Silver's taken care of that already).

Post topics in General Chat, and if it needs to, it will be moved here.

<3

This is awful. I want the right to post new threads in here, dammit!

This is awful. I want the right to post new threads in here, dammit!

Second. I know you mods are petty and wouldn't move my post!

that's quite true...however...someone like JH, will more often post rubbish...

It's an excellent idea. Well done Zypher

that's quite true...however...someone like JH, will more often post rubbish...

It's an excellent idea. Well done Zypher

He has posted many good topics ( I think ) if not, he debates well.

The problem: Mods having to move bad post out of the intelligent debate section.

Solution: Post them some were else so the Mods can move them back in.

There is no difference in moving bad posts out or moving good ones in. It just SOUNDS like a solution.

That's what they are doing...more or less.

It just SOUNDS like a solution.

+rep, doesn't matter either way.

that's quite true...however...someone like JH, will more often post rubbish...

It's an excellent idea. Well done Zypher

He has posted many good topics ( I think ) if not, he debates well.

The problem: Mods having to move bad post out of the intelligent debate section.

Solution: Post them some were else so the Mods can move them back in.

There is no difference in moving bad posts out or moving good ones in. It just SOUNDS like a solution.

Pretty much agree, which is why I made the change with a "=/" face, and will probably reverse it after a while.

Either way there is gonna be stupid topics I suppose. It's just kind of like a meh change. And people probably won't intelligently discuss something in General Chat, which means no topics will be moved and Intelligent Debate will cease to be active.

Being able to spell should also be a prerequisite for posting here.

Just cuz you can't spell doesn't mean your opinions are not Vaild or that your not intelligent.

I agree people should check to if a thread has already been made though:-

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,10691.0.html (Made « on: January 02, 2007, 08:03:20 AM ») - By Angelic_Diablo

And this one:-

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,1719.0.html (Made « on: February 19, 2006, 07:25:49 PM ») - By Landofshadows

IDEA
How about this for an idea making the Intelligent Debate Forum a privallige, should people spam it up or use insults rather than debtaing you take the privillage away so they can't enter... Bit like the MOD forum, give us all acess and slowly Ban the people making it a shite hole.

People should check if a topic has already been made...

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,10691.0.html (Made « on: January 02, 2007, 08:03:20 AM ») - By Angelic_Diablo

And this one:-

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,1719.0.html (Made « on: February 19, 2006, 07:25:49 PM ») - By Landofshadows

IDEA
How about this for an idea making the Intelligent Debate Forum a privallige, should people spam it up or use insults rather than debtaing you take the privillage away so they can't enter... Bit like the MOD forum, give us all acess and slowly Ban the people making it a shite hole.

(said the same in the preface topic... In away these two Stickies cover the same stuff...)

IDEA
How about this for an idea making the Intelligent Debate Forum a privallige, should people spam it up or use insults rather than debtaing you take the privillage away so they can't enter... Bit like the MOD forum, give us all acess and slowly Ban the people making it a shite hole.

Better then what they're doing now, but sounds a little to complex.

IDEA
How about this for an idea making the Intelligent Debate Forum a privallige, should people spam it up or use insults rather than debtaing you take the privillage away so they can't enter... Bit like the MOD forum, give us all acess and slowly Ban the people making it a shite hole.

(said the same in the preface topic... In away these two Stickies cover the same stuff...)

Stop making me clone post!!

It sounds better then what they're doing now, but it's a bit to complex to be feasible.

Nah its Easy...

They make Intelligent debate only viewable if you have a certain field flagged for example Call it Brain Box (or BB)... Give every one BB status, and take it away should they start being an Ass...

I think they should Merge these two posts... They have gone and done some thing they are telling us not to do... Lead by example... Some one should Merge the two Topics...

And I have the same problem as you now... LOL Clone posting...

It sounds better then what they're doing now, but it's a bit to complex to be feasible.

Nah its Easy...

They make Intelligent debate only viewable if you have a certain field flagged for example Call it Brain Box (or BB)... Give every one BB status, and take it away should they start being an Ass...

Nah its Easy...

They make Intelligent debate only viewable if you have a certain field flagged for example Call it Brain Box (or BB)... Give every one BB status, and take it away should they start being an Ass...

If it is easy, then I do think it's a good idea.

"Warning. While you were posting 21 new replies have been made" lol!

Baldness of the Apostles - is a bit on the Shite side... Only cuz I just posted in it though... If they are going Bald they should just wear hats... End of...LOL

LOL xD
Funny stuff. Once again, I was on a mentally induced high.

Also - I like the idea of a promotion rather than demotion system. Although the choices made could not be biased. For example, if a popular member makes a topic discussing whether blue or green is a better color, it should not be put into intelligent debate simply because they made it. Nor an intelligent debate  left in General chat because a lesser known member made it. Or intelligent debates being ignored because they hit touchy subjects.

Baldness of the Apostles - is a bit on the Shite side... Only cuz I just posted in it though... If they are going Bald they should just wear hats... End of...LOL

LOL xD
Funny stuff. Once again, I was on a mentally induced high.

Also - I like the idea of a promotion rather than demotion system. Although the choices made could not be biased. For example, if a popular member makes a topic discussing whether blue or green is a better color, it should not be put into intelligent debate simply because they made it. Nor an intelligent debate  left in General chat because a lesser known member made it. Or intelligent debates being ignored because they hit touchy subjects.

You're right. Stupid questions belong in the spam and will stay like that.

Without trying to offend anyone, I think its kind of funny that Zypher is the one that has to tell you not to post stupid shit in here. Not that he's ever spammed up a thread before. Also, making normal people unable to post new topics raises the fascism meter 10 points. I understand where you're coming from with having to delete stupid topics and such, but if someone legitimately wants to talk about something, they have no way to post it short of asking a mod to do it for them. But then again, I'm just a ranting idiot, so you should probably pay no mind to me. CONTINUE AS YOU WERE.

I'd forgotten all about that =o

Pretty much agree, which is why I made the change with a "=/" face, and will probably reverse it after a while.

/while

but if someone legitimately wants to talk about something, they have no way to post it short of asking a mod to do it for them.

You have the General Chat section.

You speak to me as if i am a lesser being than you, and my opinions on "intelligent debate" mean less than yours. Of course there is general chat, but that's like having meaningful conversation with a wallow of pigs: Nobody understands, and pretty soon, someone is going to throw a heap of garbage into the mix.

I want to talk about how cookies are made and I just post it in Intelligent Debate. You think this makes sense?! It's not on us to judge what is intelligent and what is not, but to decide if it belongs there or not. The problem is that somebody will post something that he might think it is intelligent, but it isn't. And it isn't called debate just for fun.

Of course there is general chat, but that's like having meaningful conversation with a wallow of pigs: Nobody understands, and pretty soon, someone is going to throw a heap of garbage into the mix.

Do you want to say, General Chat is more likely to be spammed up? I have been here long enough to know this isn't not true. Just look at the recent posts by Elegy in Intelligent Debate. =/

The problem is the psychology behind the forum. When people see Intelligent Debate, they feel obliged to make a thread about religion or government or the same exact bullshit we always see just because they think it makes them look intelligent. THAT is what I hoped to put a stop to with my proposition.

And that, too. Yes, Zypher.

Here's an idea:

If it's NOT ABOUT RELIGION, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE.

If it's ABOUT SCIENCE, DON'T TRY TO DISPROVE IT WITH RELIGION.

One cannot effect the other anyway, as one cannot disprove the other, so bringing up either outside of a related topic in the form of an argument is inane, and furthermore, completely ignorant.

agreed.

Lol, looks like Silverline enabled posting in Intelligent Debate again, since people are posting new topics there which we, the mod, have to move again. =/

Stop complaining, you would of had to have moved them from general chat to here anyway, now your just moving them back. It's the same amount of work, it just seems like more because people stoped posting intelligent threads because of the tyranny of previously locking this section.

Stop complaining, you would of had to have moved them from general chat to here anyway, now your just moving them back. It's the same amount of work, it just seems like more because people stoped posting intelligent threads because of the tyranny of previously locking this section.

The problem is the psychology behind the forum. When people see Intelligent Debate, they feel obliged to make a thread about religion or government or the same exact bullshit we always see just because they think it makes them look intelligent. THAT is what I hoped to put a stop to with my proposition.

It's not the same amount of work =/

The two topics I moved today won't become intelligent debate for sure. =/

So how long is it until this will be moved to general chat?  I think me being here is the harbringer of the apocolypse.

It's stickied.

What I notice is that some people here often post unintelligent answers to intelligent questions, and this ruins the feeling of finally having a place where to discuss serious topics in a mature manner. That's the only con I find to this section.

I beleive she is referring to me.

I beleive she is referring to me.

Excuse me? I don't have the need to refer to someone indirectly. That is hypocrisy, and have always been against it.
I speak in general, to anyone who posts in Intelligent Debate just for the fun of it, or has nothing to contribute to the discussion of the topic.

I beleive she is now defining me.

If that is what you wish to believe, then go ahead.
I already offered an honest explanation. If you apply that definition to yourself, that is your problem.

And with that, I am done with the argument.

Bio is just being an idiot. Ignore him.

Internet: Serious Business.