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Is there any type of downloadable thing that let's you compose Midi's? I can't seem to find one and my friend wants one =\

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I've heard of this MIDI Notate thing, good for downloading MIDI's ofvideo games and getting the sheet music, but I use FL Studo 5 XXL Edition - illegal copy, I feel kinda bad about it since I use it so much.

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For standard notation get Finale Notepad or Noteworthy Composer. For tabs get TabIt. Otherwise, see the "Composers: What do you use?" topic in Creativity Outlet.
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Guitar Pro is the ultimate compositor. Includes entire world of midi + music knowledge

Fruity loops is very sweet to use for composing with midi. I use those two.

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Considering you use FL I must ask. Is there anyway to preview?

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To preview what?

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MIDI's - you can't hear them whilst you make them, you must export and assign the MIDI instrument after testing the melody with a non-MIDI. Mustn't you?

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No. You open the MIDI setting ( Options -> MIDI Setting) and select Omni preview midi channel to 1, and Port to 1 (for example, can be any number). Then you load the MIDI Out plug in and select the specified port in "Port" (Right side, you can't miss it). Also, go to Options -> and select "Enable MIDI Remote Control" and "Enable MIDI Output" just for any case. Hope that helped.

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I'll test in a moment, if it works it'll make it a lot easier. Is this one of those things that I have to rearrange to start making mp3's again?

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You don't. MIDI and Realsound can be played even simultaneously - although I do not advise it as the MIDI(or Realsound) clips when played both at the same time. If you want to share your midi track but don't feel like giving away entire composition, you can insert Fruity LSD into Master Mixer Track and rearange the intruments to fit the channels. With this activated, you can export your midi as mp3 or wav.

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I'm rendering at the moment... I'll see how everything goes in a moment...

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Where's Fruity LSD?

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Don't double-post.  ;)

Fruity LSD functions as an Effect Plugin. Therefore, open Mixer Track, select Master, select first line where you insert an effect and choose a plugin called Fruity LSD. If it isn't there, you need to select "More..." on the same list (top) and find it there, select it so that it displays in selection, and then you can load it in the mixer track. If it isn't there, it means you probably have a version that doesn't have it (I'm guessing some d-class ilegal copy).

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Right... I got it to work, thanks.

Oh and don't worry, my copy is illegal...
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Just for the refference, not all the names of the instruments in F LSD match the names in Fruity MIDI Out plug in, so when inserting sounds in LSD, reffer to the Patch number -> They match.

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Just for the record, TabIt > GuitarPro.


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Guitar Pro is the ultimate compositor. Includes entire world of midi + music knowledge

Fruity loops is very sweet to use for composing with midi. I use those two.

Guitar Pro is HORRIBLE. Are you crazy?? I've heard so many complaints about it. Besides, if you're going to go standard notation, you should go Finale. Or if you're a tabs guy, go TabIt.

And don't even get me started on how much I hate Fruity Loops.
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Guitar Pro is the ultimate compositor. Includes entire world of midi + music knowledge

Fruity loops is very sweet to use for composing with midi. I use those two.

Guitar Pro is HORRIBLE. Are you crazy?? I've heard so many complaints about it. Besides, if you're going to go standard notation, you should go Finale. Or if you're a tabs guy, go TabIt.

And don't even get me started on how much I hate Fruity Loops.

Actually, I want you to start. Fruity Loops is, more or less, flawless. I never, not once, had the need to change it. Guitar Pro really isn't that horrible...I don't find any complaints regarding it, really...TabIt is also great, aye, I just prefer Guitar Pro over.

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I wouldn't say FL is flawless. It is made for beginners and as a horrid side effect lacks really great tools to work with. ACID is better in sound quality. Reason is harder to use, similar layout and also more professional.

That isn't my opinion, it's a friend who has used ACID, FL, Reason / he's good, he's into IDM, Ambient, Trance - I'm just presuming what he'd say, considering he has urged me to go to Reason.

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Fruity Loops is far from flawless. It lacks the need of creativity, as anyone can just go in and put together a "song" in about 10 minutes. Generally the use of Fruity Loops is frowned upon in the music writing world.
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Generally the use of Fruity Loops is frowned upon in the music writing world.

Screw the music making world, it's not like I make music for money. I make it for fun. And you write the music on a piano roll, which imitates a piano - piano's have a simple layout and added to the classical stave feeling I don't see how writing music in FL is a flaw.

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It lacks the need of creativity, as anyone can just go in and put together a "song" in about 10 minutes.


How long have you had it for? Considering youll be surprise to find many "hidden" things in FL simply through trial an error. Have you ever wandered out of the Packs section? Maybe looked at the mixer? I'll admit it's easy to make a typical club/dance song, have you ever challenged yourself with something else though?

I've been using FL for a year and I'm surprised at how good it is, at first I hated it as I didn't understand it. Didn't take long for me to pick it up though, open the mixer, explore songs made by other people on FL - walla! Simple interface.

I wouldn't say FL is flawless, but to say it is far from flawless... I dunno...

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A piano roll? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Needless to say, anyone not writing dance/club/techno/whatever else music won't find Fruity Loops very attractive. Well, I shouldn't say anyone, but rather anyone who knows what they're doing.

People who use programs such as TabIt or Noteworthy Composer do so because of how simple it is. You just write, and it isn't based on tying together a bunch of silly samples.

People who use programs such as Sibelius and Finale do so because it gives them more freedom, and the ability to make use of certain techniques that you just can't do in other programs, as well as it looks more professional, for those who write for performance.

And whether you make music for fun, or for money, that has no effect on what other composers who write for fun will automatically assume of you. As for examples of that here at RMRK even I direct you to this posts, as well as the ones following it.

http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,6635.msg117091.html#msg117091

Then again, understand I'm not condemning you for using it. I HAVE heard some decent stuff from FL that wasn't techno or rap or dance etc.

But... this is getting silly. I'm not really sure why I posted again, actually. None of this is going to make a difference; we're all going to continue doing things how we normally do them. I've been debating too much lately in the topic of music in general. (Not here at the forums, though, but elsewhere). Not that this was really much of a debate, either... 7 am... I'm starting to ramble and not make a lot of sense... time for bed.  :o
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It lacks the need of creativity, as anyone can just go in and put together a "song" in about 10 minutes.

Any song that take less than 3 hours usually is crap. Don't get me started on that.
I know, you don't like it, but FL isn't as bad as you may think. It's actually quite hard to start with it. If you are more familiar with it you can create better stuff as FL doesn't have creativity limitations like you think. It wasn't awared with these awards just for fun:

http://www.flstudio.com/English/frames.html

Seriously, if you would download the a few of the newer versions and listen to the project called "Newstuff" that is loaded as soon as you start it the first time, you would be surprised what people can do in FL.
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Thanks Blizz I was about to mention that it's only creative as the user is. And what version do you have?  :o

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Fruity Loops is far from flawless. It lacks the need of creativity, as anyone can just go in and put together a "song" in about 10 minutes. Generally the use of Fruity Loops is frowned upon in the music writing world.

Needless to say, anyone not writing dance/club/techno/whatever else music won't find Fruity Loops very attractive. Well, I shouldn't say anyone, but rather anyone who knows what they're doing.

People who use programs such as TabIt or Noteworthy Composer do so because of how simple it is. You just write, and it isn't based on tying together a bunch of silly samples.

People who use programs such as Sibelius and Finale do so because it gives them more freedom, and the ability to make use of certain techniques that you just can't do in other programs, as well as it looks more professional, for those who write for performance.

And whether you make music for fun, or for money, that has no effect on what other composers who write for fun will automatically assume of you. As for examples of that here at RMRK even I direct you to this posts, as well as the ones following it.

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Screw the music making world, it's not like I make music for money. I make it for fun. And you write the music on a piano roll, which imitates a piano - piano's have a simple layout and added to the classical stave feeling I don't see how writing music in FL is a flaw.

I wouldn't say FL is flawless. It is made for beginners and as a horrid side effect lacks really great tools to work with. ACID is better in sound quality. Reason is harder to use, similar layout and also more professional.

That isn't my opinion, it's a friend who has used ACID, FL, Reason / he's good, he's into IDM, Ambient, Trance - I'm just presuming what he'd say, considering he has urged me to go to Reason.


Both of you are talking bullshit. I write electronica, metal and neo-classica all in Fruity Loops, 7th year going. The fact you can make something in 10 minutes does not mean it qualifies as good and the fact you can make something in 10 minutes doesn't mean it's made for beginers, it means it has the most user-frendly interface. The artists mainly differ in liking or disliking something but I've never heard a song made by any other program that sounded better than a song of same quality made in fruity. I do my songs for months - now - do you consider me stupid by any chance? Or it's about the fact it takes skills. Doing something in 10 minutes will not get you anywhere - also - the purpose of Fruity Loops is to use it as a sequencer and manager, not a sound production tool as complete - what you get with Fruity Loops (in view of plugins) is what helps you start. What you need, however, is to spend additional 500$ - 1000$ + to use more advanced plugins and sounds with which you can then level up. The question of creativity is plain stupid, without talent, knowledge and experience you won't do anything regardless of what you use to make music. Onforth, Fruity Loops is an open VST maximum compatibility program what means it's specially designed to use the vst creations, synths, soundfonts, orchestral emulators and programs, MIDI, and effect generator, going from free to 1000$ epensive, and it includes thirty native plugins, the easiest and most advanced piano roll (and that's where you compose) which is everything you really need to compose, and on top suports the samples. You can use them, you don't have to, you may, you need not to. It is 100% NOT sample-based program, if you understand the terms of samples, anyway. Fruity Loops is the maximal freedom you could possibly get, apart from the fact you can make a particular effect in 10 different ways, you can also adjust the piano roll to your needs, manipulate with anything you create in numerous diffferent ways and use whatever has ever been made as hardware or software, including real keyboards, recording, live record, wave editor, mixing, mastering, VST, live play, MIDI, et cetera, shorty said, everything you need to posses can be performed through Fruity Loops, finally, creating absolutely anykind of personal sound you want. So please stop.

And if you really need proof -> THIS was made in FRUITY LOOPS: Download 3,92 MB song

Now if that's what you can do within 10 minutes, I bow to you, you were 100% right and I'll never ever talk about this again. In fact, I'll withdraw from music production.
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