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Other Game Creation => Game Creation General Chat => Topic started by: Helper on June 21, 2005, 02:47:20 AM

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Helper on June 21, 2005, 02:47:20 AM

I like 2k the best.

2k: simplistic
2k3: bloody buggy
XP: Complicated @_@

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Barda on June 21, 2005, 02:52:07 AM

XP.
You can make a much better game with i IMO

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Blackdragon on June 21, 2005, 02:53:19 AM

2k: Still cant make good events with it
2k3:  To hard to find custom battlers
XP: Easy to learn

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Da Master Alchemist on June 21, 2005, 03:50:24 AM

2k:never used
2k3:no script editing
xp:all aruond ownage

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: AlianceKing2007 on June 21, 2005, 03:53:37 AM

2k: Used it, but never made a game from it.
2k3: much better than 2k
xp: The best maker I have use.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Tsunokiette on June 22, 2005, 05:38:57 AM

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Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: xeilo on June 28, 2005, 12:03:52 AM

Quote from: Tsunokiette

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How long that take you? lol

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Tsunokiette on June 28, 2005, 12:06:31 AM

I did the x first, then the p didn't take quite as long, I got into a rythym lol...

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Lord Cloud on June 28, 2005, 12:08:53 AM

2k:translation kinda sucks
2k3:better battle system but hard to find sprites
XP:Not my preference but the best cuz you can do really kool things with it.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Helper on June 28, 2005, 12:15:40 AM

Did you know that 90% of people who use RM like 2k's battle system best and hate 2k3's because it's so buggy.

There tends to be a bug in 2k3 projects that totally screws up he battle system and has no cure.

Also normal expectations for an XP game require at least 5 totally custom systems powered by scripts. AND THESE MUST BE 100% COMPLETED BY YOU.

That's the message I got from EVERY ****ING SITE OTHER THAN THIS ONE.

[/rant]

But that's why I like 2k the best.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Maestress Xina on June 28, 2005, 05:28:08 AM

I like RM2K3. I would say XP if I could script. (Yes, I'm lazy)

And 2K's battle system can get annoying once you run out of monsters in 1st person veiw.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Inaru on June 29, 2005, 12:50:47 AM

I really like them all, and dissagrements over which one is the best is stupid.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Soul on July 07, 2005, 09:40:40 AM

RM2K:The first one i ever got.. i hate it
RM2K3:i love the battle system but its to hard to get the battle spirts and a bitch to make them aswell and way to many bugs..
RMXP:the best one on pc.. i love this one over all of them..

lets hope they make a 3D one next. like the ones on PS2.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheVamp on July 07, 2005, 12:04:58 PM

2k:never used
2k3:to ugly :p
XP: easy! (i love it)

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: mouse on July 07, 2005, 07:07:30 PM

2k: Easy to learn, good graphics
2k3: Hard to find sprites, too many event commands (Hard to find what you want)
XP: BUGGY!!! And every map looks empty as hell.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: gyromon on July 19, 2005, 08:26:32 PM

I agree mostly with the above, but I don't understand why people keep saying rm2k3 sprites are hard to find?
HELLO PEOPLE!!!
Rm2k/3 sprites are interchangeable!
Not to mention If you go on any search engine and type 'rm2k3 resources' and click one of the top few sites, you find some HUNDREDS of rm2k/3 sprites!
I just got done downloading more then 50!
DUH!
Anyway, rmxp just feels... empty, and a little strange.
I luv the interface, but somthing about rm2k3 games is just overall....nicer.
I'm not quite sure why, but I've heard other eople say the same thing.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: cloneof on August 23, 2005, 04:23:48 PM

2k: i did never used...
2k3: i wos hilarius (BUT **** BUGGIN)
xp: I LOVE IT

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: ShadowTassadar on August 23, 2005, 05:46:47 PM

95:Really really cool! Now its too buggy.
2000:Really good, bugs on some computers.
2003:Sprites=HARD TO FIND.
XP:Great graphics, hard to make some stuff =\

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 23, 2005, 06:02:50 PM

okay this is were i stand

95: Never used
2000: Decent was great till 2003 came out with side scrolling battles
2003: Awesome!!. It is the best.  Graphics are easy to find.  Or you can make your own.  Only issue is the font and enter hero name (still trying to find patches :evil: ).
XP: It was very weird and strange when i tried it.  I only liked the battle sprites (which i import into 2003 for awesome pics :D)
RPG Maker (psx): This was the first RPG Maker i used.  It was great to make my own RPGs but the limited sprites was annoying.  Then i found RPG Maker on the comp.  Lots of sprites :D.
RPG Maker 2 (ps2): Looks awesome however the events are done backwards and are really confusing to an experienced RPG Maker fan.  Great for people how dont have a clue :D

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Foccuz on August 28, 2005, 09:43:24 PM

I personally love the 2K3 battle system.  Can't find battle sprites?  Get off your lazy ass and make them!!!  :P

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Kupoman on August 28, 2005, 10:31:52 PM

i have tried to make custom battle sprites
i made one but he was easy because i just enlarged the character sprite.
rm2k3 sprites are easy too find just not the battle sprites.
and i agree with gyroman about rm2k3 just feeling "nicer"

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Lord Dante on August 28, 2005, 11:55:06 PM

2k: never used, but i think xp is a better version of this

2k3: okay, i like the battle system and such, even though i never really learned how to make good 2k3 sprites so i never really got into it

xp: the best for many reasons in my person al opinion. for me, mainly its because the characters can be whatever size you want them to be. Also, I like the graphips alot more. the default battle system i DONT like, but thats just because i cant make custom battlers 'anime style'. as a remedy to the aforementioned problem, xp has scripting!(cheers)so, in addition to being able to fix the BS...lol bs... you can do tons of other cool stuff! ...xp...

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: King Anesis on August 29, 2005, 12:54:08 AM

2k3, I really dont undertstand why people seem to just end up forgetting the good old maker and ditch it for XP....the battle system was great...and in XP a lot of functions have been dumped... :shock:

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Kupoman on August 29, 2005, 12:56:31 AM

XP looks great and i will probably try to use it after my current, lame and incredably simple, project.
RM2k3 just seems friendlier or something

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 29, 2005, 05:54:51 AM

Yeah xp is so ....
weird
it's hard to explain but i just prefer rm2k3 for it's battle system and the fact that i've used rm2k(3) for a while now (probably at least a year maybe 2)and just know it.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Wouter on August 29, 2005, 05:00:27 PM

Yeah, but you can change the battle system in XP to whatever you want...
that's the neat thing with XP, you can change the whole game if you want.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: RPGPersonell on August 29, 2005, 10:21:54 PM

2k: never used it
2k3: love it cuz it's easy and not complicated
xp: too complicated

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 29, 2005, 10:48:27 PM

okay wouter let's see a script for a side scrolling battle system for XP.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Tsunokiette on August 30, 2005, 09:37:18 PM

go to rmxp or dubealex (4got which) and search for ccaos side view battle or cybersam's side view battle

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 31, 2005, 01:58:59 AM

those both stink.  However i found one that is the rm2k3 battle system redone for XP.  The graphics are even the same to make.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Blackdragon on August 31, 2005, 02:00:42 AM

which one is it and dont say the stink scripting is hard.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 31, 2005, 02:04:33 AM

i wasn't saying that the scripting wasn't good.  Oh no.  I was saying I didn't like the system it's self.  Most of them had extrymly hard to do graphics.  Others just werent exactly side-scrolling.  They were awesome battle systems just not what i wanted.  Anywho I'm not sure where i found it.  I think it was in a post on that rmxp.net (or whatever it was) about deleted scripts.  I try to find a link.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Tsunokiette on August 31, 2005, 02:05:14 AM

Quote from: The Moogle

those both stink.  However i found one that is the rm2k3 battle system redone for XP.  The graphics are even the same to make.

err they "stink"? they're the only two besides kcg... and they are the 2k3 battle system for xp... correct me if I'm wrong please.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: The Moogle on August 31, 2005, 02:25:50 AM

I found one that is based off of rm2k3 for people like me who love the 2003 battle system but see XP's great potentshol.....(<i spelled that wrong but you get the idea)

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: RPG_Cat on September 06, 2005, 11:55:24 PM

2k : Fun & Easy
2K3: Meh..It was alright...I hate bugs tho ~_~
XP: Iam not really a fan of this one but it is one of my favorites ;-)

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on September 13, 2005, 06:32:38 PM

I never used 2k. I think that between 2k3 and xp, xp is better cuz it's much easier to learn..

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: RotG on October 06, 2005, 01:27:16 PM

2K3, undoubtedly. Expands upon everything built in 2K (and thus a lot of the resources like facesets and such transfer VERY easily) and I love the feel a side-view battle gives to the game. IMO it's much more exciting to control and view a fight from the sidelines and see the actions and movements of EVERY participant, rather than seeing through the eyes of one side and never being able to see your heroes' animations, or what have you. In first person mode, you lose some excitement, I think.

Also, I find XP's database to be very confining when compared to 2K3's database. Particularly in the skill and status effect areas, and items. In 2K3 I could really tweak skills and status effects to create some really oddball combinations and give a bright, vivid variety to the abilities in the game, rather than just cookie cutter nukes and junk. There's a lot of user-unfriendly features that require you to script a lot more than enterbrain likes to advertise in XP, and frankly, if I wanted to dig into code, I would open up MS Visual C++, because quite frankly if you're going to code for the sake of customization, you may as well do it from scratch and be able to further customize things like character stat types, encounter types (maybe you want to make a game like Seiken Densetsu 3), and what have you. When I open up an RPG Maker program, it's because I want to ESCAPE code, not do what I already do most of the time anyway (also I do it for the graphics and sound resources, but you get the picture).

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Thesephiroth on October 07, 2005, 08:41:24 PM

I prefer xp because of all the cool things you can do on it and the graphics

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Lord Dante on October 08, 2005, 12:26:49 AM

Quote from: RPG_Cat

2k : Fun & Easy
2K3: Meh..It was alright...I hate bugs tho ~_~
XP: Iam not really a fan of this one but it is one of my favorites ;-)

wtf that didnt make ANY sense. you're not afan but it was a favorite? what?

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: dwarra on October 08, 2005, 10:10:54 AM

Quote from: TheRotS

I never used 2k. I think that between 2k3 and xp, xp is better cuz it's much easier to learn..

You say that, I learned on Rpg 2003, and yet i still struggled to learn with XP lol, but I personnaly think XP is the best game =]

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on October 10, 2005, 05:33:03 PM

Yeah, maybe it takes time to learn but it's easy when you know the minimum.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Snake_Storm on October 10, 2005, 08:09:26 PM

XP hands down. my favorite makers are the ones you can just pick up and let the story just flow out of you. XP's the first one in a long time. it's got that natural feel that guarantees i'll be a fan.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: King Anesis on October 10, 2005, 10:14:31 PM

And that you can just simply copy/paste everything to make everything custom...Does everyone miss that fact?

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on October 11, 2005, 12:04:39 PM

Nope it's a good thing for xp!

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: King Anesis on October 11, 2005, 08:07:38 PM

If making you look lazy is a good thing, then fine with me.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on October 11, 2005, 08:27:24 PM

lo(p)l i'm not lazy. May I change my mind? Ok. I think that rpg maker 95 is da best maker!

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: Woody on October 12, 2005, 01:24:35 AM

xp.  there aren't a lot of resources for it, but you are able to do far more with it than the other versions

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on October 12, 2005, 08:16:52 AM

You can make your own resources to xp. That's easy.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on October 13, 2005, 05:26:29 PM

Yeah it's kinda hard to find. When you find, it's not always good.. :whoa:

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: dragonman153 on November 08, 2005, 11:28:46 PM

I like the graphics of RpgXP the best (cause they are the best  :D ). I really like the simplicity of Rpg2000 cause the chipsets fit together nicely. Rpg2003, uh isn't it exactly like 2000 except for a bit different chips and battle animation.

Rpg 2000, you can make almost anything (you have many different ground and water chips, etc.), Rpg XP is sort of limited to doing stuff with cliffs (1 water chip per set  :| ).

For Rpg XP you make cool looking, maybe even professional looking games, but the downside is, the stacking chips gets to be a pain, esp if they have that white around the edges.

BTW, I started Rpg Maker this year, my grade 8 Computer class teaches Rpg 2k and Rpg XP. lol

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: dwarra on November 09, 2005, 06:54:58 AM

Well you can changethe autotiles. Then you get more water tiles  :lol:

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: TheRotS on November 10, 2005, 11:42:41 AM

They teach rpg?? :shock:

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: dragonman153 on November 10, 2005, 08:16:54 PM

Yep, lol. Illegal version too >_<.

Title: Favorite Maker
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on November 11, 2005, 01:12:49 AM

I only used Xp. I'm still learning with it, but this thing has a real mild learning curve compared to the Map Maker for Warcraft3... Or at least I thought so. Maybe it's not fair to compare these things. But I think RPXP has been easy to learn... Although Still I don't know how to script. I wonder if I can make Soul Refrain 2 about 10 hours long without the need to script. hmmmm....